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April 22, 2019, 04:50:35 AM
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I want to share some Knowledge about Crypto Currency, Both on Local and Beginners & Help. my question is, is it considered as plagiarism if I copy some articles on the internet regarding some topics on cryptocurrencies some tips and things that newbies need to know?

Most of the time I translated them into our local language so that my fellow countrymen who are having a hard time understanding the English language can get benefit from it and learn some important aspect of cryptocurrencies. I also put some sources that lead back to the original author so that they will have credit for their hard work.

Is it ok for me to copy paste the entire Topic and translate it to the point that my fellow countrymen will understand it well?
I'm afraid that after this hard work, I will get Ban and there will be no chance to get back my account. trust me I don't want to be a troll here,
I just want to help my fellow countrymen to understand the CryptoCurrency to the best of my ability.

Suggestions are welcome, let's help each other.


These are the topics that I was talking about:

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Mga peligro sa pag Invest sa Bitcoin At Paano ito Maiwasan
Resources Para Matuto sa English Language
Pag-unawa sa Cryptocurrency Trading Signals
Mga address ng BTC na nagsisimula sa "3" anong ibig sabihin? ipaliliwanag Credit to: mikeywith
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April 22, 2019, 04:55:06 AM
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Basically, as long as you linked the source article, you're going to be fine. The bans are for those who copied content without giving proper credits to the original source/writer.

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April 22, 2019, 05:10:44 AM
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Duplicate Posting in multiple boards unless they aren't translated leads to the topic getting trashed. Since you are posting the English version in B&H board and the translated one in your Local board, you won't be facing any such hard times with the breaking of rules. It's good to hear that you are taking an initiative to educate the newbies in your local section, but using automated translator tools could also lead to a negative feedback along with the deletion of the topic.

If you are translating the articles without any automated translation tools and citing proper sources for the articles there shouldn't be a problem for you. Bans are often issued only when you are caught for plagiarism, Duplicate Postings will lead to just deletion of topic and using of automated tools will lead to receiving a negative feedback from DT.
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April 22, 2019, 05:44:21 AM
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Basically, as long as you linked the source article, you're going to be fine. The bans are for those who copied content without giving proper credits to the original source/writer.

So those people who are getting banned by the moderators are those who are lazy enough to post the sources where they got the Topic and they are claiming the topic for their own self.

If you are translating the articles without any automated translation tools and citing proper sources for the articles there shouldn't be a problem for you. Bans are often issued only when you are caught for plagiarism, Duplicate Postings will lead to just deletion of topic and using of automated tools will lead to receiving negative feedback from DT.

Mostly using any tools to translate doesn't give us the preferable results that we want, when I'm translating any topic I'm checking it word by word so that the readers in our local section will understand what I'm trying to say. and most of them are happy to the point that they are giving me nice feedback when I'm making a new topic.

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April 22, 2019, 08:52:17 AM
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Maybe, you should spend your time to read my topic, in which you can find almost everything you need to avoid plagiarism.
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism

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April 22, 2019, 09:23:46 AM
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So those people who are getting banned by the moderators are those who are lazy enough to post the sources where they got the Topic and they are claiming the topic for their own self.
Yes. Regardless if you claim that it's yours or not, if there's no source, it's plagiarism.

Mostly using any tools to translate doesn't give us the preferable results that we want, when I'm translating any topic I'm checking it word by word so that the readers in our local section will understand what I'm trying to say. and most of them are happy to the point that they are giving me nice feedback when I'm making a new topic.
Yep. Even though your article is the worst translated article ever, as long as you link the source, you're not going to get banned for plagiarism. Though your post might be deleted due to spam. Tongue

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April 22, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
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Maybe, you should spend your time to read my topic, in which you can find almost everything you need to avoid plagiarism.
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism

I read them all, in conclusion as long as I put the sources where I get the articles and give the authors credit I should be fine. another thing that I've learned from your post is, never forget to post the link where you get the topic once you mess up there's no turning back. I'll appreciate it!
God bless you.

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April 22, 2019, 10:10:44 AM
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Thumbs up for showing initiative in helping your fellow men. I think I have read some of the english version of what you've translated. And nice job on the translated one. Good thing you don't use translating tools because they are unreliable at times. Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with what you do. Just make sure that you always cite the source. Also, if what you copy and paste are the exact words of the original source or author, make sure to put the text in quotes and include the citation. Other than that, you're good.

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April 22, 2019, 03:26:32 PM
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I want to share some Knowledge about Crypto Currency, Both on Local and Beginners & Help. my question is, is it considered as plagiarism if I copy some articles on the internet regarding some topics on cryptocurrencies some tips and things that newbies need to know?

Most of the time I translated them into our local language so that my fellow countrymen who are having a hard time understanding the English language can get benefit from it and learn some important aspect of cryptocurrencies. I also put some sources that lead back to the original author so that they will have credit for their hard work.

Is it ok for me to copy paste the entire Topic and translate it to the point that my fellow countrymen will understand it well?
I'm afraid that after this hard work, I will get Ban and there will be no chance to get back my account. trust me I don't want to be a troll here,
I just want to help my fellow countrymen to understand the CryptoCurrency to the best of my ability.

Suggestions are welcome, let's help each other.


These are the topics that I was talking about:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3857580.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132550.msg50631724#msg50631724
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132406.msg50625861#msg50625861
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133713.msg50674396#msg50674396
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132163.msg50616948#msg50616948
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133337.msg50660882#msg50660882




Instead of copying the whole article, which I believe that you also put the link of those articles in your posts, why not just post a new idea about the article that you've read, in that case you will not worry if you are committing a plagiarism act, also, you could explain it a lot more easy for your countrymen to understand what that article was trying to say.

You could also add something else that could be helpful regarding about a certain topic that you want to explain to other people who still have no idea about the cryptocurrencies and how it would help them in their daily lives, just saying.
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April 23, 2019, 06:58:22 AM
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According to my thinking, if you make a copy of the translation altiker it doesn't matter by fulfilling some conditions.
"source, author's name, and date of the writing that you published.

When you make a copy of an Altiker on Google and you pour it into your board, then you have to show who the author is, the source and also the website address.

When someone does a copy of the translation altitude, then that person must have the value of the altiker, meaning that the writing altiker gives a blessing to others.

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Basically, altiker copy is not allowed? The copy copy that is not allowed is a copy that does not include the source of the author's name, source of writing, and date of writing.

Conclusion, as long as you provide the Altiker source with a clear translation of the author's name, source of writing, and time of writing, then Altiker's copy may be done if it is useful for others.

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The first link you provide as an example seems to be yours, and is written in English. I guess you are wondering if you can translate your own post into your local language and post it there. You can do that (as long as it is not an automated translation), as it will not be considered a duplicate post, and it is explicitly allowed by the forum rules.

The fourth link, fifth and sixth links are essentially translations of forum OPs. You reference correctly the link to the OP, and the author, which is fine, although it is common practice to obtain the OPs permission beforehand to be on the safe side (this does not always occur, and I have not seen any trouble for not obtaining prior permission from the OP, but it’s better if you PM him/her just to confirm – and out of curtesy).  

The second and third links refer to one or more multiple external sources. The references are there, so that should cover the forum’s core view on avoiding plagiarism, although if you were to be very really picky, you would obtain the original media´s permission to go ahead with the translation (as above). I doubt nevertheless that anyone really goes to that extent on external information sources. You could rephrase the text instead of performing a verbatim translation, adding your personal touch or opinion in the process.
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Yes there is no limit when you copy all the wordings from the article. And there is no problem without it. If one article was being copied then it could be done. Just remember like other users said to provide link of the articles.

There are many copy and pastes articles here but they never gets banned because they follow the forum rules and that is by showing the link of the article.
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Basically, as long as you linked the source article, you're going to be fine. The bans are for those who copied content without giving proper credits to the original source/writer.

You are going to be fine in this forum. (This forum will not ban you for plagiarism.) You should also check for notes/footnotes of the source websites that prohibits you from copying their material for any reason. If there is any warning then I suggest you to not to use that source in this forum. (Generally every thing in free domain can be used but if it is paid content for member only then you will see the warning of no copying of their data/article.)
 

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You are going to be fine in this forum. (This forum will not ban you for plagiarism.) You should also check for notes/footnotes of the source websites that prohibit you from copying their material for any reason. If there is any warning then I suggest you to not to use that source in this forum. (Generally, everything in free domain can be used but if it is paid content for member only then you will see the warning of no copying of their data/article.)

I see a lot of people getting banned with this kind of act (plagiarism), that's why I think I need to be cautious with this thing.
If I ever see a topic that worth sharing I will post them this time without hesitation. so far those are the topics that I posted,
I will translate some more every time I see our beloved members sharing their knowledge, and I take note that I need to ask the Author first before I translate their topic to our local section.
 

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Despite giving enough credits to the source you will be bad when you will start posting continuously such type of post which is copied from other sites. Suppose if more than 50% post will in this category then you will not be fine because anytime any reputed person can call you as a spammer. So try to reduce posting mainly copied from other site posts to be safe and clean. Thanks

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Basically, as long as you linked the source article, you're going to be fine. The bans are for those who copied content without giving proper credits to the original source/writer.

You are going to be fine in this forum. (This forum will not ban you for plagiarism.) You should also check for notes/footnotes of the source websites that prohibits you from copying their material for any reason. If there is any warning then I suggest you to not to use that source in this forum. (Generally every thing in free domain can be used but if it is paid content for member only then you will see the warning of no copying of their data/article.)
 

I would recommend checking the rules out yourself. This forum will not ban you for plagiarism aye? I was banned for one year for doing so.  I was also one of the first to be given a second chance. I was given that second chance because I truly care about Bitcoin, this forum, and helping others here.  You have no shot at being given a second chance after plagiarism if you aren't here for the right reasons, and 99.9% of the MANY people whom have been banned, will never get a second chance because they aren't.  

I also agree, keep your properly sourced posts to a minimum. Learn from others, then form your own personalized information to help others.

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April 23, 2019, 02:53:36 PM
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Despite giving enough credits to the source you will be bad when you will start posting continuously such type of post which is copied from other sites. Suppose if more than 50% post will in this category then you will not be fine because anytime any reputed person can call you as a spammer. So try to reduce posting mainly copied from other site posts to be safe and clean. Thanks

According to my knowledge, spam posts are posts that have no meaning and off topic and some of them are made only to fulfilled the post requirement of their Signature campaign. while on the other hand, my posts are giving some advice and some tips about Crypto Currencies, It might be not useful today but I'm sure when some newbie read these topics of mine he will gain some knowledge about things that he hasn't been aware of his whole life. so that's not gonna makes me a spammer at all as long as I only post things that are related to our Bitcoin community.

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April 23, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
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Despite giving enough credits to the source you will be bad when you will start posting continuously such type of post which is copied from other sites. Suppose if more than 50% post will in this category then you will not be fine because anytime any reputed person can call you as a spammer. So try to reduce posting mainly copied from other site posts to be safe and clean. Thanks

According to my knowledge, spam posts are posts that have no meaning and off topic and some of them are made only to fulfilled the post requirement of their Signature campaign. while on the other hand, my posts are giving some advice and some tips about Crypto Currencies, It might be not useful today but I'm sure when some newbie read these topics of mine he will gain some knowledge about things that he hasn't been aware of his whole life. so that's not gonna makes me a spammer at all as long as I only post things that are related to our Bitcoin community.

Yes, you are right also that your posts are valuable and mainly newbie will be helped by the posts. But I have already indicated the percentage of "copied posts from others source" maybe you have misunderstood me, buddy.

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April 23, 2019, 04:41:24 PM
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Just make it simple,
1. If you would like to translate your own topic with your native language, then you free to do it. No need any permission from others or forum.
2. If you like to translate topic from other user, then you should ask OP and you should attached link of original OP, give credit to OP will be appreciated. It will save you from future claim by original poster. I this all original poster will give you permission happily since you are promoting him/her for free.
3. Don't translate whole article from their party website or blogs. You can just translate the summary and attached original link with credit of writer. If you like to translate whole article or blog , then to be fair you should get permission from original writer.
4. You should not direct copy paste from any topic or any other third party website. If you need any part for reference then use quote. For third party website first use link and then use quote for article. Copy paste whole article even you use quote or credit with link will prove your post worthless. So better avoid copy paste whole article.  
5. It will not look good if you always copy paste from others and just use source link. Sometimes there is risk of ban your account if moderators found multiple report against you. So try to be a decent user and help others as well. Copy paste isn't really wise decision so try to avoid it as much as possible.

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