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Ethereum Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Ethereum

Developers will be building on our immutable chain, are you ready? Code is law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxwuoJaJXc




ETC Businesses

Ethereum Classic Labs - https://etclabs.org/

ETCBets - https://www.etcbets.com/ - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1907827.0


Community

http://www.ethereumclassic.org

http://ethcwiki.org/

https://github.com/ethereumproject
https://github.com/ethereumclassic

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/

https://twitter.com/eth_classic

https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com/ - Slack

https://telegram.me/ethclassic
https://telegram.me/ethereumclassic

https://trello.com/b/aiSzWBm7/ethereum-classic-clients

QQ Groups: 361470220 - 568474359

Russian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563328
https://ethclassic.ru

Indonesian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563400

Italian
https://t.me/ETC_Italia

There are no bounties at this time


Exchanges

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_etc
https://poloniex.com/exchange#usdt_etc
https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ETC

https://www.kraken.com

https://www.bitfinex.com

https://c-cex.com/?p=etc-btc C-CEX is not recommended

https://shapeshift.io

https://changelly.com

https://bitsquare.io

https://anycoindirect.eu/buy/etherclassic

https://www.bitwa.la

https://www.chbtc.com/etc

https://yunbi.com/markets/etccny?confirm=true

https://bter.com/trade/etc_btc
https://bter.com/trade/etc_eth

https://www.korbit.co.kr/etc_market

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=ETC_BTC

https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETC24H

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ETC/BTC

https://yobit.net/en/trade/ETC/BTC


Wallets and Explorers

https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases
https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip Choose NO fork
You can't have the forked blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

https://info.shapeshift.io/blog/2016/08/03/shapeshift-releases-ethereum-splitter-cleanly-separate-eth-and-etc

https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/
https://classicetherwallet.com

https://etherx.com

http://www.fauceting.com/faucet/74

http://coinmarketcap.com

https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/etc/overview

http://polotrex.com

https://www.etc-eth.com

http://fork.ethstats.net

http://stats.ethc.io

http://etcstats.net

http://www.etcminer.com

http://ethereumwisdom.com/#!/ethclassic

https://etcchain.com/

http://blocks.elaineou.com

http://gastracker.io

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com

http://explorer.ethereumclassic.com

https://minergate.com/blockchain/etc/blocks
https://minergate.com/calculator/ethereum


Pools - I can't vouch for any though

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/etc
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/#/pools?f0=ETC

https://etherx.com/pools - Hashrate distribution

http://etc.ethermine.org
https://etc.bw.com
https://f2pool.com
http://ethc.epool.io
http://clu.epool.io
http://pool.ethereumclassic.com
https://ethc.coin-miners.info
http://etc.nanopool.org
https://etcpool.io
https://etc.suprnova.cc
https://minergate.com
http://etc.coinpool.biz
http://www.ethteam.com
http://etc.poolto.be
http://yolo.ethclassic.faith
https://ethereum-classic.miningpoolhub.com
http://etc.coinpool.biz
https://www.coinotron.com
http://etc.digger.ws
http://etc.4miners.net
http://etc.akasha-pool.eu
https://aikapool.com/etc
http://etc.pool.sexy
https://pool.zet-tech.eu
https://etcmine.pro
https://ucrypto.net/pools/


Press

http://fortune.com/2016/09/04/ethereum-fall-out/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxwuoJaJXc - Ethereum Classic Video

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/ethereum-classic-community-navigates-a-distinct-path-to-the-future-1471620464

https://youtu.be/Vgz7k5iTGkI

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@charleshosk/thoughts-on-an-ethereum-classic-roadmap

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/13/ethereum-reputation-has-been-damaged-with-the-finance-and-banking-community/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGW9ozE-ys

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-the-great-ethereum-schism-can-end-well-for-ethereum-classic-part-2-of-3-cm657748

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/how-the-great-ethereum-schism-can-end-well-for-ethereum-classic-part-of-1469905980

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808

http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/28/ethereum-the-battle-of-the-chains

http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-hard-fork-creates-competing-currencies-support-ethereum-classic-rises/

https://medium.com/@zsfelfoldi/a-tale-of-two-chains-3f6d58a9df4a

https://medium.com/@Stampery/why-stampery-supports-ethereum-classic-4c86ec7cca17

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@cryptorune/a-ethereum-civil-war-is-happening-right-now-and-why-classic-should-win

https://ethereumheadlines.com/2016/07/25/ethereum-classic-is-now-trading-on-poloniex/

http://www.coindesk.com/tale-two-chains-ethereum/

http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/07/26/case-ethereum-classic/

https://steemit.com/dao/@gedae/the-dao-and-the-benefactors

http://themerkle.com/etc-trumps-ethereum-trading-volume-on-poloniex/

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@whalepanda/what-happened-with-ethereum-usdeth-and-ethereum-classic-usdetc


Ideology

We believe in decentralized, censorship-resistant, permissionless, IMMUTABLE blockchains. We believe in the original vision of Ethereum as a world computer you can't shut down, running irreversible smart contracts. We believe in a strong separation of concerns, where system forks are only possible in order to correct actual platform bugs, not to bail out failed contracts and special interests. We believe in censorship-resistant platform that can be actually trusted - by anyone. Code is law.

More: https://medium.com/@bit_novosti/a-crypto-decentralist-manifesto-6ba1fa0b9ede


Motivation

Ethereum Foundation responded to DAO debacle in the worst way possible. Special interests controlling the Foundation are ramming through DAO bailout hardfork against principled opposition of a significant economic minority of Ethereum stakeholders. According to (diligently hidden, pro-fork) coin vote on Carbonvote, 19% of ETH holders oppose this hardfork. Also, about 22% of Ethereum miners voted against the previous 'DAO softfork' and would logically oppose hardfork as well. Such a significant minority of stakeholders should not be silenced or intimidated into submission - they should be given a clear choice.

If we want to continue to move forward and guarantee survival of the original Ethereum vision, we must fork Ethereum. This will lay the foundation to build secure decentralized applications that are actually censorship resistant.

More: https://github.com/ethereumclassic/freeworldcomputer-project


Goals

The main goal of the project is to ensure survival of the original Ethereum blockchain. We will strive to provide alternative for people who strongly disagree with DAO bailout and the direction Ethereum Foundation is taking their project. Anyone opting to remain on the original chain should have such opportunity.


Development

We fork Ethereum and maintain upstream patches similar to the relation between Redhat and CentOS, until a community can form around the project and create a road map. Until this happens we can fork multiple existing clients to help prevent a monoculture of clients. We plan to follow https://github.com/ethereum development except for any features they introduce into existing clients that violate the key principles of openness, neutrality and immutability.

Code: https://github.com/ethereumclassic


What can I do?

Please help us spread the word about this project in Ethereum community!


Volunteers

If you feel strongly about the cause, please get involved. With just days before the planned hardfork, we need your support to ensure original Ethereum survival. We need more developers, website designers, people who can write and advocate the need for Ethereum Classic. Please let us know what are your skills and how you would like to contribute. Redditors, please reply here. Github users, please open new issue.


Users

In order to remain on the original Ethereum chain, just don't upgrade to hardfork client version pushed by Ethereum Foundation. We will maintain non-fork versions of all major Ethereum clients (as well as other key software), so going forwards all the improvements will be available to you.

Fun fact. If you keep ETH under your direct control (not in a 3rd party wallet or exchange account), you will have two sets of coins instead of one post-fork. You could then install a forked Ethereum client in addition to Ethereum Classic, copy your private keys there and use your coins on both chains! You won't be so lucky if your ETH are locked with 3rd party going into the fork - some exchanges already announced that they will only return one type of coin post-fork to its users.


Miners

Miners supporting the original chain should just keep mining with current version of software for now, without upgrading to client version introducing the hardfork code. It will be always possible to download and build latest non-fork version from https://github.com/ethereumclassic.

The difficulty of the original chain will be quite high post-fork, but it will adjust to actual hashrate shortly (just 2048 blocks, a few hours). Since it is expected that most hashrate will move to hardfoked chain, post-adjustment it will be possible to obtain decent mining rewards in classic ethers even with solo mining.

Because the difficulty adjusts quickly, it will be also quite possible to solo mine soon after the fork. If you intend to mine Ethereum Classic, please don't upgrade to geth 1.4.10 just yet, due to potential vulnerability. We will inform you when it's safe to upgrade. For now, just solo-mine with geth 1.4.9 or any earlier version, or use Classic pool.


Traders

https://bitsquare.io/

Most important question for traders is 'will ETHC have market price'? There are all reasons to believe that it will. Essentially, ETHC is an Ethereum 'spinoff coin' with a wide user base of all current ETH users. Some of them will see the value of transacting on a censorship-resistant chain, some won't. This creates interesting arbitrage opportunities for smart traders. Additional reasoning why EHTC is very unlikely to be 'worthless'.

Both Poloniex and Bitfinex announced that they will assign their users both ETH and ETHC after the fork. This is a step in the right direction, now it's up to these major exchanges to enable ETH/ETHC trading that will no doubt be demanded by users. Decentralized exchange Bitsquare announced ETHC trading right after the fork. Other trading venues will follow since there is a strong business case. We are in touch with several other exchanges to add ETHC trading to their platforms. If your exchange is interested in ETHC trading, please contact us.

Let's make sure original Ethereum vision doesn't just "go gentle into that good night"!


https://github.com/ethereumclassic/README
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April 22, 2019, 06:58:17 PM
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This is the continuation of the original thread for Ethereum Classic hosted by BitPop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0

If you have updates you'd like to see to this thread please contact me here
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April 22, 2019, 11:03:12 PM
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The Ethereum Classic stays true to the immutability philosophy of blockchain which is for me a big factor for blockchain fundamentals. After all that happened, ETC survived and came back with a vengeance. It's really an inspiration!

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April 23, 2019, 06:52:36 AM
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This is now the new ETC thread under new management.

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New dev, new management, new beginning.

Can't wait to see the results tomorrow.

Code is law
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April 23, 2019, 11:34:49 AM
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New dev, new management, new beginning.

Can't wait to see the results tomorrow.

Code is law

Code is law. https://etclabs.org/ is leading the way forward.

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April 23, 2019, 11:45:39 AM
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New dev, new management, new beginning.

Can't wait to see the results tomorrow.

Code is law

Code is law. https://etclabs.org/ is leading the way forward.

Is it their new website? It looks very fresh to me. I see that they have a lot of funding especially for start-ups and I am excited to see some projects being sped up. Awesome ideas they have there
 
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April 23, 2019, 11:50:28 AM
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New dev, new management, new beginning.

Can't wait to see the results tomorrow.

Code is law

Code is law. https://etclabs.org/ is leading the way forward.

Is it their new website? It looks very fresh to me. I see that they have a lot of funding especially for start-ups and I am excited to see some projects being sped up. Awesome ideas they have there
 

ETC main site is at https://ethereumclassic.org

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April 23, 2019, 01:39:43 PM
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you can add this Italian telegram group under the Community links on the first post

https://t.me/ETC_Italia

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April 23, 2019, 05:44:53 PM
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I heard ETC is into dApps lately. It's good to have some working dApp in every blockchain to maximize usability. The original Etherium on the move.

https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2018/09/ethereum-classic-etc-likely-to-dominate-iot-and-dapps-by-2020/

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you can add this Italian telegram group under the Community links on the first post

https://t.me/ETC_Italia

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Hi, we join in this group, but after 5 minutes, I can't access the group anymore. Is there a problem? Do you have a bot that automatically restrict users who do not engage in the group or something?

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you can add this Italian telegram group under the Community links on the first post

https://t.me/ETC_Italia

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Hi, we join in this group, but after 5 minutes, I can't access the group anymore. Is there a problem? Do you have a bot that automatically restrict users who do not engage in the group or something?

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There is no restriction
Do you speak italian?
I will ask the admin from the group if he has banned you, can you please tell me your telegram username

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you can add this Italian telegram group under the Community links on the first post

https://t.me/ETC_Italia

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Hi, we join in this group, but after 5 minutes, I can't access the group anymore. Is there a problem? Do you have a bot that automatically restrict users who do not engage in the group or something?

You may also join  in  ETC discord group. They have good and active community, discussion for current/planned developments are open for your opinion and suggestions.
https://discord.gg/fXfSgAm
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you can add this Italian telegram group under the Community links on the first post

https://t.me/ETC_Italia

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Hi, we join in this group, but after 5 minutes, I can't access the group anymore. Is there a problem? Do you have a bot that automatically restricts users who do not engage in the group or something?

You may also join in ETC discord group. They have a good and active community, discussion for current/planned developments are open for your opinion and suggestions.
https://discord.gg/fXfSgAm

I don't know they have created a new thread of ETC, but we already know now potential ETC is going to be because team members are very much happy to help the community due to recent negative activity the price is not increasing.

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April 24, 2019, 01:35:26 PM
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Just watched this. 

This classic show by Dean Pappas and Shane Jonas.

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Just watched this. 

This classic show by Dean Pappas and Shane Jonas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaTs-TGz5dE&feature=youtu.be

 

Cool! an exclusive interview of one of the Software Developer at ETC Labs Core. It's very interesting to see devs explaining about Open-RPC and it's upcoming development.
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April 25, 2019, 07:15:01 PM
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Is there a specific reason for the new management that is interesting to the community or just a change in personal interests of those who were formerly involved?


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April 25, 2019, 07:29:34 PM
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Is there a specific reason for the new management that is interesting to the community or just a change in personal interests of those who were formerly involved?

I haven't been as dedicated.

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April 25, 2019, 07:32:26 PM
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Is there a specific reason for the new management that is interesting to the community or just a change in personal interests of those who were formerly involved?

I think "new management" isn't a concept that ever will be part of Ethereum Classic, but I do know that ETCDEV funding issues reported back in December are no longer an issue, with ETC Labs hiring multiple members of that team and also adding new developers.

My two cents - The excitement comes from renewed sources of funding, accelerated development (look at Kotti, OpenRPC, and the Atlantics hardfork), and the ETC Labs accelerator promoting more dapp and tooling development on ETC (check out Ethernode)
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