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Q: Why all the research?
A: Understanding the history and origins of cryptography, e-cash, cryptocurrency and Bitcoin was an interesting journey that spanned over 20 years. Finding the details and information of the key players that made 'Today' and the 'Tomorrow' possible was invaluable. Often one must understand the past to build the future.

Q: Why are you searching for Satoshi Nakamoto?
A: Contrary to mainstream information available, Satoshis exit from Bitcoin was not planned or scheduled. Anyone who has read the detailed posts, actions and timelines would conclude that it was unexpected and abrupt. The only way to know Satoshi was 'safe' and 'ok' was to find him. Anyone involved in the world of activism would understand this.

Q: What value does your information have?
A: As Bitcoin grew in the early years, the main world governments tried to track down who was behind Bitcoin. The reason is simple, most governments wanted to know if the creation was by a friend or foe. Western governments distrust China/Russia and vice versa. Our findings finally show the creation was not via any government agency, or anarchist criminal group but simply a very smart academic with financial transformation goals.

A: It is very easy to fake digital information. However it is very hard to fake and manipulate timelines. Findings provide additional information to stop any faketoshi claiming Bitcoin. Select [faketoshi candidate]. Find out what/where they were on Monday 12 Jan 2009. Verify they were not able to receive incoming connections. Rule out [faketoshi candidate]. Apply for the other criterias listed and you would be amazed how few names remain on any list!

To understand the document one must reference some of the key public information available (links extracted from PDF):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2216.msg29280#msg29280 : It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context. WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us.' - Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080206.0 : Mike Hearns emails with Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13.msg46#msg46 : The Bitcoin network has been running for almost a year now. The design and coding started in 2007' - Satoshi Nakamoto.
http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/014863.html : Satoshi at vistomail.com
http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/014832.html : 'I appreciate your questions. I actually did this kind of backwards. I had to write all the code before I could convince myself that I could solve every problem, then I wrote the paper. I think I will be able to release the code sooner than I could write a detailed spec' - Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto : Wei Dei emails with Satoshi Nakamoto.
http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382374.0 : Bitcoin source from November 2008.
http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2009-January/014994.html : Bitcoin P2P e-cash paper announcement.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.0 : Payment No. 1: A Closer Look at the Very First Bitcoin Transfer.
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source : Bitcoin P2P announcement by Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecash : History of Ecash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MnQJFEVY7s : Milton Friedman predicts the rise of Bitcoin in 1999!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43.msg346#msg346 : Satoshi Nakamoto location 'timebox' due to reference to yesterday.
https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf : Hal Finney emails with Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116.0 : Bitcoin Mac OS X universal build for testing.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820.0 : Clues to Satoshi Nakamotos computer (or lackof)
https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=109961094015550&w=2 : Hal Finney P2P gambling game (like poker or something) using rpow.net which is a sort of play-money ecash.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83.0 : Satoshi Nakamotos file sharing knowledge.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507458.0 : Chain Archaeology - Answers from the early blockchain.
https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/21303153/ : Bitcoin Sourceforge remnants.


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April 27, 2019, 09:00:50 PM
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This is great read, I also was trying to match his text to others in this forum, I think I got a hint of who his/her new smurf is, One thing is for sure, when the bitcoins move from the whale wallets and buy anything, We will all know for sure, or when he/she has the balls to stand up and not live in fear and explain to the people why they created this. The bankers live in fear not us. This person needs to get a nobel prize. I think everyone on this forum would die for Satoshi, Well I would that is for sure.
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It is intriguing and all of us is really curious about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. This details and speculation about him is great. I am wondering why Satoshi had been inactive for a long time. Could it be that the creator of bitcoin is already dead?

He surely did a great job hiding his identity. I guess it is really best to let him be anonymous since he doesn't really intend to reveal himself.

 
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April 27, 2019, 09:34:24 PM
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It is intriguing and all of us is really curious about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. This details and speculation about him is great. I am wondering why Satoshi had been inactive for a long time. Could it be that the creator of bitcoin is already dead?

He surely did a great job hiding his identity. I guess it is really best to let him be anonymous since he doesn't really intend to reveal himself.

for all we know this could be the NSA/CIA and FED`S exit strategy, let`s be real who would be thinking about money? BANKERS, I think it is best for them to reveal themselves. Although I truly believe it was a person who saw a problem with the system and attempted to fix it and they are the greatest whitehat of all time. Now there is new blood creating even better ideas, anyways Satoshi whether it is government or not is cool.  
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With all of that ideas that Satoshi had why would he bother to leave a trace to his real identity if he already knows what will be going to happen to him if he got caught. Even Chinese people who have had great power and talents tend to hide their identity since they don't really trust the public and the government.

I like how these guys tried their best to find the real Satoshi but unfortunately, Satoshi already thinks that way that's why we can't locate him no matter what we do.



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April 27, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
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Really great research and really professional presentation. I totally agree with what you’ve researched and maybe I can add to the major research that you’ve done. A few things that might help you in your research would be :
1. Satoshi definitely knew his coding etc, but he also knew economics and how money works, eg, why set a pre - determined amount of bitcoin ?
2. He must have been a member of the p2p foundation under possibly his real name but probably a pseudonym before he registered again as Satoshi Nakamoto.
 There are only 1016 members of the p2p foundation and a lot less before he registered under Satoshi , so if you search through these names and apply all your filters you may be in luck .
I’ve tried and my head hurts !!!!!!
Hope this helps in your search and good luck
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I like how these guys tried their best to find the real Satoshi but unfortunately, Satoshi already thinks that way that's why we can't locate him no matter what we do.
Nothing surprising here. Hackers are able to hack millions from exchanges anonymously without any sort of trace from a long period of time. Did you really think that the creator of Bitcoin would be easy to locate in comparison?

Satoshi is probably still alive in my opinion and he/she must be laughing their asses off reading these articles while chilling somewhere in the Bahamas.

 
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Really great research and really professional presentation. I totally agree with what you’ve researched and maybe I can add to the major research that you’ve done. A few things that might help you in your research would be :
1. Satoshi definitely knew his coding etc, but he also knew economics and how money works, eg, why set a pre - determined amount of bitcoin ?
2. He must have been a member of the p2p foundation under possibly his real name but probably a pseudonym before he registered again as Satoshi Nakamoto.
 There are only 1016 members of the p2p foundation and a lot less before he registered under Satoshi , so if you search through these names and apply all your filters you may be in luck .
I’ve tried and my head hurts !!!!!!
Hope this helps in your search and good luck


Thanks 👍 Satoshi linked many fields including game theory/maths, economics, cryptography, and p2p dynamics. From 2004 onwards, Satoshi was already clued up and an expert in privacy so no clues in the p2p foundation profile. However the most interesting thing was where Satoshi announced and made his initial Bitcoin announcements including p2p foundation.

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With all of that ideas that Satoshi had why would he bother to leave a trace to his real identity if he already knows what will be going to happen to him if he got caught. Even Chinese people who have had great power and talents tend to hide their identity since they don't really trust the public and the government.

I like how these guys tried their best to find the real Satoshi but unfortunately, Satoshi already thinks that way that's why we can't locate him no matter what we do.

Satoshi did not leave a trace to his real identity on purpose. If you think about it this way. No matter what field you work in or master, at one point in time you are a beginner and novice. This includes Satoshi. Everyone starts somewhere, learns, makes mistakes, learns some more until they are proficient and become a subject matter expert over years. It is those early years well before Bitcoin that the most important clues were found. Also the search was not easy, if you look at the list of names on the first slide, it highlights only a small fragment of research that has been undertaken. The slides are just a summary and a background to some of the history and facts discovered.

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April 29, 2019, 08:53:50 PM
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You surely worked very hard finding him still can't say anything without proper verification but if this thing is real yes you will be the first to find out him. but still, his intentions are not clear like why did he left the project and did something happens to him? btw you said you can explain his leaving cause, care to tell us?
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We've all known Vitalik Buterin the creator of Ethereum and his creation is on the 2nd place for the long time already but no bad things happen to him yet but we don't know what if in the future ETH take place the number one spot when it comes to the most valuable crypto and those greedy businessman place their bets to him or even control him. I think Satoshi is too smart to reveal his real identity to the masses because he already thought before that Bitcoin will be the future of digital payment.
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May 01, 2019, 09:23:36 PM
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You surely worked very hard finding him still can't say anything without proper verification but if this thing is real yes you will be the first to find out him. but still, his intentions are not clear like why did he left the project and did something happens to him? btw you said you can explain his leaving cause, care to tell us?

The one difference between our research and the others that have taken place over the years is that we used the information to lead us to a person. Not the other way round like the usual suspects. What this means is that the person it led us to fits a lot of the observations with data that has been available publicly. And the other findings explains some of the other mysteries.

Satoshi himself alludes to the fact that he had been working on Bitcoin since 2007 (slide 9). If you visit his profile on this forum and read all his posts and check his code comits, you will see active commentary on lots to do and active ideas for development. There was no suggestion of slowing down or quitting the project.

The sudden nature with the Bitcoin link to Wikileaks donation is the clear event that led to expedited disappearance. It is easy to forget how big an event Wikileaks was for major government intelligence bodies and so anything linked to it would have bought unwanted scrutiny from global intelligence services etc.

From slide 4, it is clears the holdings value at the time of leaving was small change. Note that $215,600 would have been the theoretical maximum if he wanted to cash out. Due to the illiquid nature of the markets in December 2010, the real cash-out value would have been a fraction of that.

So why did he leave? Based on the candidate it lead us to, pre-Bitcoin there was political-activism related links to a G20 country. Normally this would not seem a major concern, but having researched more into the global treatment of activists it is a major reason to leave the Bitcoin project while intelligence eyes fell on Bitcoin (due to the Wikileaks link). Think about what happened to Jamal Khashoggi in a well publicised recent case. Then ask yourself about the risks of activism for unknown personnel etc.

The good news is that the person it lead us to, seems a normal smart person. They even seemed to have a job for 2 years between 2011-13. So Satoshi definitely fits the good guy / legend definition.

So in summary, from our findings Satoshi left Bitcoin because of the risk of his identity being compromised for pre-Bitcoin activism activities. We got the feeling, his original plan was to develop Bitcoin within a small community and controlled increments. And he would have continued were it not for the sudden attention due to Wikileaks event.

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May 01, 2019, 09:31:43 PM
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We've all known Vitalik Buterin the creator of Ethereum and his creation is on the 2nd place for the long time already but no bad things happen to him yet but we don't know what if in the future ETH take place the number one spot when it comes to the most valuable crypto and those greedy businessman place their bets to him or even control him. I think Satoshi is too smart to reveal his real identity to the masses because he already thought before that Bitcoin will be the future of digital payment.

See previous response for the reason for leaving the project with identity still anonymous. Also it is worth noting that the flow of time allows for major changes in public and governmental attitudes. When Satoshi started working on Bitcoin e-Cash was still a very sensitive area with high risk of prosecution / legal grey areas / central point of shut-down. By the time Ethereum arrived the landscape had changed considerably. The first generation of pioneers usually shoulder all the risks for change.

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You surely worked very hard finding him still can't say anything without proper verification but if this thing is real yes you will be the first to find out him. but still, his intentions are not clear like why did he left the project and did something happens to him? btw you said you can explain his leaving cause, care to tell us?

Satoshi himself alludes to the fact that he had been working on Bitcoin since 2007 (slide 9). If you visit his profile on this forum and read all his posts and check his code comits, you will see active commentary on lots to do and active ideas for development. There was no suggestion of slowing down or quitting the project.



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December 11, 2010, 11:39:16 PM
It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context.  WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us.

I think that is a suggestion of slowing down or leaving the project or at least becoming anon.

Well guess what Satoshi I am here punching that hornets nest in the face, I am still here and even if they kill me, your blockchain has taught me a lot about the after life and my current life (I know I cannot hide anything). My father had a heart attack and my aunt just died of cancer, she went to the other side for 12 hours and my father for 3 before they were brought back to life. They both have the same story not knowing each others story. You will remember everything. The Creator has a very stern male voice, weird coming from my Aunt she was a girl power type. anyways though both said they remember every life they had every single last breath they took, but the Creator told them they were not finished here. A week later she died again for good. My father still is here I guess he has not fulfilled his purpose.

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May 02, 2019, 02:49:10 AM
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Let time will tell who Satoshi Nakamoto is. I think we cannot find who is he because he still moves in many places and doing his project with his friends.
I am sure that in one day, he will reveal himself to the public or at least, he will show that he still exists and alive in somewhere place.
We cannot force him to comes out of his place because we don't know where he lived.
I think he will continue to fix any problem related to the bitcoin project by secretly without anyone knows.

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May 02, 2019, 06:34:27 AM
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Ok, so all the circumstantial evidence point to Satoshi Nakamoto being a UK citizen. <MI5 possibly...  Grin Grin Grin>  I think it might be possible for Satoshi to be a migrant worker from another country that worked in the UK. This explains the language that are not clearly identified. There are many talented immigrant software developers working in foreign countries, so this might be one of the reasons why the puzzle is not fitting into place to identify Satoshi Nakamoto.

I did not know that people were spending this much time to hunt down the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. <Scary stuff>  Shocked

 
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May 02, 2019, 08:00:05 AM
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The larger texts were a bit hard to read with that font against that background, but I really do have to commend you.
It's not often that a story like this ends without naming anyone, purely for ethical reasons.

That's what I find most distasteful about most of these hunts for Satoshi's identity.
He clearly wanted to remain anonymous and I personally feel that should be respected.

So, kudos for turning this into an interesting story, without actually naming him!

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May 02, 2019, 09:05:02 AM
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It's Satoshi's choice to keep his identity in private and we can't do anything but to respect it. He launched the most profitable coin of all time so digging too much about his personal life I think is too much. Let's just stop searching for the real Satoshi because there will be people who will just claim that they're Satoshi. Let him reveal the true him in time.

 
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May 02, 2019, 09:18:57 AM
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Let time will tell who Satoshi Nakamoto is. I think we cannot find who is he because he still moves in many places and doing his project with his friends.
I am sure that in one day, he will reveal himself to the public or at least, he will show that he still exists and alive in somewhere place.
We cannot force him to comes out of his place because we don't know where he lived.
I think he will continue to fix any problem related to the bitcoin project by secretly without anyone knows.

He may not reveal himself and other who knows him may reveal his identity in the future in case Satoshi is a group of people instead of just a single person.
No one is forcing him to come out, most people who are curious about him are trying to reveal who is he by doing some researches based on many things that may relate to him.




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