Say NO to GMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[protokol]

Many I hope every post in this thread is showing full support to the OP because anything else seems like it would be somewhat a waste of time to me, generally speaking.

So It's a waste of time to call people out on misinformation?

If this thread had been advocating neo-naziism and ethnic cleansing would it still be a waste of time to not show full support?

I thought the idea of threads like these, was to get opinions and facts from all sides of the discussion, so people can get a more balanced view; due to the "filter search bubble", more and more people seem to get their information skewed and all from similar sources, rather than seeing the whole picture. This ted talk is well worth a watch:

http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles

I make a point of using "duckduckgo" or similar when I'm investigating issues such as these.

PS if you were trolling, then well done, you got me 

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[CryptoREI]

I am planting my non-gmo garden this week 

[hashman]

[snip]

Totally agree  with you but the problem is that there is too many people on the earth so it is impossible to feed everyone with good organic food! So GMO is like a decision on how to feed 7,000,000,000 people

Actually GMO is used to make sure there is less food.  Good luck arguing that terminator plants which don't produce seeds are part of a humanitarian campaign to feed the planet. 

[Swordsoffreedom]

[snip]

Totally agree  with you but the problem is that there is too many people on the earth so it is impossible to feed everyone with good organic food! So GMO is like a decision on how to feed 7,000,000,000 people

Actually GMO is used to make sure there is less food.  Good luck arguing that terminator plants which don't produce seeds are part of a humanitarian campaign to feed the planet. 

I agree with that terminator seeds killing other crops so that the corporations and GMO can sell the farmers fertilizer and receive a cut of all their future revenues by forcing them to buy their seeds and nutrients making them dependent on them for their livelihood and at the same time killing their soil quality and bees to boot.

That is pretty hardcore evil right there

[Foxpup]

I agree with that terminator seeds killing other crops so that the corporations and GMO can sell the farmers fertilizer and receive a cut of all their future revenues by forcing them to buy their seeds and nutrients making them dependent on them for their livelihood and at the same time killing their soil quality and bees to boot.

That is pretty hardcore evil right there

Terminator seeds don't kill other crops, they terminate their own reproduction. They're just sterile seeds. Basically the conversation went like this:

"But what if the GMOs reproduce out of control and take over the whole ecosystem? That's terrible!"
"No, it's okay, we can just engineer them so that the seeds are sterile and they can't reproduce. See? Problem solved!"
"But then farmers will have to keep buying seeds! That's terrible!"
"Dammit, is there no pleasing you people?"
"No. No, there isn't."

[TECSHARE]

I agree with that terminator seeds killing other crops so that the corporations and GMO can sell the farmers fertilizer and receive a cut of all their future revenues by forcing them to buy their seeds and nutrients making them dependent on them for their livelihood and at the same time killing their soil quality and bees to boot.

That is pretty hardcore evil right there

Terminator seeds don't kill other crops, they terminate their own reproduction. They're just sterile seeds. Basically the conversation went like this:

"But what if the GMOs reproduce out of control and take over the whole ecosystem? That's terrible!"
"No, it's okay, we can just engineer them so that the seeds are sterile and they can't reproduce. See? Problem solved!"
"But then farmers will have to keep buying seeds! That's terrible!"
"Dammit, is there no pleasing you people?"
"No. No, there isn't."

How about they simply stop trying to destroy natural ecosystems purposely so they can sell them back to us? That would make me happy.

[Valle]

I agree with that terminator seeds killing other crops so that the corporations and GMO can sell the farmers fertilizer and receive a cut of all their future revenues by forcing them to buy their seeds and nutrients making them dependent on them for their livelihood and at the same time killing their soil quality and bees to boot.

That is pretty hardcore evil right there

Terminator seeds don't kill other crops, they terminate their own reproduction. They're just sterile seeds. Basically the conversation went like this:

"But what if the GMOs reproduce out of control and take over the whole ecosystem? That's terrible!"
"No, it's okay, we can just engineer them so that the seeds are sterile and they can't reproduce. See? Problem solved!"
"But then farmers will have to keep buying seeds! That's terrible!"
"Dammit, is there no pleasing you people?"
"No. No, there isn't."

Even if scientists will figure out how to make GMO food without a single DNA/RNA inside they will cry that is the most horrible DNA modification ever, don't waste your time :-)

[TECSHARE]

New functions for 'junk' DNA? www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-03/asop-nff033114.php

[counter]

Many I hope every post in this thread is showing full support to the OP because anything else seems like it would be somewhat a waste of time to me, generally speaking.

So It's a waste of time to call people out on misinformation?

If this thread had been advocating neo-naziism and ethnic cleansing would it still be a waste of time to not show full support?

I thought the idea of threads like these, was to get opinions and facts from all sides of the discussion, so people can get a more balanced view; due to the "filter search bubble", more and more people seem to get their information skewed and all from similar sources, rather than seeing the whole picture. This ted talk is well worth a watch:

http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles

I make a point of using "duckduckgo" or similar when I'm investigating issues such as these.

PS if you were trolling, then well done, you got me 

heh, no I was not trolling friend.  I made the mistake of assuming what people would post in this topic without reading it fully and making bad jugdement call on my part.  You are more then right to correct me and make your points.  However I think you misunderstood where I was coming from and what I was trying to say. 

[bitcoin4eva]

I don't use gmo!

[roslinpl]

I like GMO they can produce better food

hehe Like BUGE strawberry ohmohmo

[protokol]

Many I hope every post in this thread is showing full support to the OP because anything else seems like it would be somewhat a waste of time to me, generally speaking.

So It's a waste of time to call people out on misinformation?

If this thread had been advocating neo-naziism and ethnic cleansing would it still be a waste of time to not show full support?

I thought the idea of threads like these, was to get opinions and facts from all sides of the discussion, so people can get a more balanced view; due to the "filter search bubble", more and more people seem to get their information skewed and all from similar sources, rather than seeing the whole picture. This ted talk is well worth a watch:

http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles

I make a point of using "duckduckgo" or similar when I'm investigating issues such as these.

PS if you were trolling, then well done, you got me 

heh, no I was not trolling friend.  I made the mistake of assuming what people would post in this topic without reading it fully and making bad jugdement call on my part.  You are more then right to correct me and make your points.  However I think you misunderstood where I was coming from and what I was trying to say. 

Ah yes apologies, I reread your post and I think I get what you meant now!

I am guilty of often taking threads like these a bit seriously 

[mladen00]

this is USA democracy

http://rt.com/usa/gmo-labeling-koch-monsanto-249/

[TECSHARE]

this is USA democracy

http://rt.com/usa/gmo-labeling-koch-monsanto-249/

  USA is supposed to be a constitutional republic.

[Balthazar]

http://rt.com/news/russia-import-gmo-products-621/

Somebody already said his "No" 

[TECSHARE]

Some long non-coding RNAs are conventional after all www.embo.org/news/research-news/research-news-2014/some-long-non-coding-rnas-are-conventional-after-all

Our understanding of the science and application of genetic engineering is changing constantly. No person who seriously considers themselves a scientist can guarantee GMO foods are 100% certainly safe with a straight face. How can I know this? Because genetic engineering is an extremely new field of study with constant shifts in understanding about how we assume these organisms work. The fact is, most of the time WE DON'T KNOW.

To even lower the standard of evidence, there are very few long term studies on the effects of consuming GMO foods past 6 months, and the ones that do exist are not pretty. This means the safety of consuming GMO foods over a long period of time is an ASSUMPTION, not even backed with empirical data. Additionally almost all of the short term studies are funded by the very entities who stand to profit if approved! Would you let General Motors engineer your car given their recently exposed lack of safety standards? Then why would you let Monsanto engineer your dinner? Neither one of them would give $0.57 to safe your life.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I agree with that terminator seeds killing other crops so that the corporations and GMO can sell the farmers fertilizer and receive a cut of all their future revenues by forcing them to buy their seeds and nutrients making them dependent on them for their livelihood and at the same time killing their soil quality and bees to boot.

That is pretty hardcore evil right there

Terminator seeds don't kill other crops, they terminate their own reproduction. They're just sterile seeds. Basically the conversation went like this:

"But what if the GMOs reproduce out of control and take over the whole ecosystem? That's terrible!"
"No, it's okay, we can just engineer them so that the seeds are sterile and they can't reproduce. See? Problem solved!"
"But then farmers will have to keep buying seeds! That's terrible!"
"Dammit, is there no pleasing you people?"
"No. No, there isn't."

That's true although they also do not sustain the soil which is why you need to buy more fertilizers and end up with a cycle of dependency on their products in the end.

[mladen00]

If GMO is OK for eat why the big GMO producer are fighting against labeling their junk (food, drinks.....)?

[Monetizer]

To be honest GMO has both it's good and bad uses. I do not believe we should be using it in fresh produce and things but at the same time with more yield being produced it does help lower the cost of food for lower class people.