The unofficial list of proper etiquette when...

[FFrankie]

buying items/listing auctions/ bidding on auctions/ hosting raffles etc.

I realized we do not have one of these threads, and there a million unwritten rules when it comes to being here so here are some tips if you are new. Any thoughts/opinions on what I should add or edit

These are not all of them, and by no means is this a complete list. But I would like to think its close

When posting an item you should
Mention the location of shipping
If you are posting this on behalf of someone, or a collaboration
Post photos of the items with your username and the current time/date written on a piece of paper
"always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow, it what makes our little playground work so well.  Dont always need to use it but it should be openly accepted" Wheelz
Remember:

Collectibles (child board of Goods) - Trades of physical collectible items ("Including physical Bitcoin coins" as the board's subtext states). If you are selling these collectibles on another site (e.g. have an online store), it doesn't belong here.

Also, if you know it's going to be more then a day or 2 you should mention how log between someone wins & pays and you are going to ship.
Just had a issue where they only ship on Monday and I won something on Tuesday and it was a week before they dropped it in the mail.

-Dave

When hosting an auction you should:
Not change your auction terms after it has started.
Not edit your initial opening post until someone quotes it.
Add a clause that allows you to require a deposit from newbi bidders.
     ~This can help prevent shill bidding, and from random newbis ruining your auction with bids they do not intend to honor
Not have any crazy clauses that would discourage people from bidding.
     ~I.E. "I reserve the right to end this auction at anytime and not sell this"
There's no point in having a secret reserve, if you have a reserve just make that your starting bid
Have clear terms

Usually Altcoin related sales should be done in the Altcoin section's (like Marketplace). Regular sections are meant for just Bitcoin. However, this rule was never really strictly enforced from what I remember. I've removed people accepting only USD in Digital Goods, since well, this is Bitcointalk, not USDTalk. With collectible Altcoin items I feel like it's even more iffy, since you wouldn't want to break up the (already small) collectible section.

I always assumed that accepting an Altcoin is fine, as long as you are open for payment in Bitcoin as well.

I'm happy to accept BTC also. Just figured it was easier to price in LTC and accept LTC. If there is such a rule about only accept BTC, that's fine. Just let me know.

Please edit your OP to include this piece of information. BTC must be one of the accepted methods of payment, otherwise the topic belongs in the relevant altcoin board.

To others: feel free to report topics in this section if OP doesn't accept BTC.

When bidding on an auction you should:
Post your bid in the format as described by the auctioneer
Pay when you win
Note that "it's rude to outbid someone in a different auction who is bidding on one of your auctions" told my DaveF, noted here
Private message the auctioneer IF you are a brand new account/little to no trading history to make sure you are able to bid. The auctioneer than can post how your bids are valid and you are not shilling  


When buying an item via PM you should:
Not ask a million stupid questions
Don't be penny pinching when it comes to shipping/escrow cost.
Don't beg


When hosting a raffle you should:
Have an escrow if its a high valued item.
If it doesn't fill up in a week, you can adjust the ticket price, add items to the raffle, cancel it and give out refunds.
If it doesn't look like the raffle will fill up, than do not accept payment till the spots are filled, or mostly filled.


Use one of these cool templates listed here



"Please add that TMAN excludes kill you from all of my sales moving forwards for being a prized dickhead." TMAN

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[DaveF]

Although I did somewhat in jest post the "it's rude to outbid someone in a different auction who is bidding on one of your auctions" it does ring somewhat true.
I know I have tagged out to 2 or 3 people in PMs (possibly more) asking for a nod of OK before bidding / outbidding them if I felt a conflict could ever be seen.

Also:
Location of item(s) should be mentioned.
Are you auctioning this for you or for someone else.

-Dave

[TMAN]

So ky jelly you are finally realising all the shit we told you over the years is true?  Fuck me I remember trying to deal with you and it wasn’t pleasent although I am happy some of the info finally got through

[FFrankie]

Although I did somewhat in jest post the "it's rude to outbid someone in a different auction who is bidding on one of your auctions" it does ring somewhat true.
I know I have tagged out to 2 or 3 people in PMs (possibly more) asking for a nod of OK before bidding / outbidding them if I felt a conflict could ever be seen.

Also:
Location of item(s) should be mentioned.
Are you auctioning this for you or for someone else.

-Dave

I had no idea of that one, and I have been here for a little bit so I felt the need to post this thread. I'll update it, those are good ones

[Lesbian Cow]

You could have just said; "Don't act like I have for years" and saved a bunch of Internet.

[FFrankie]

You could have just said; "Don't act like I have for years" and saved a bunch of Internet.

You could have said nothing at all if you had nothing nice to say.

There are new people here everyday who do not know the Dos and Do not s

Updated the op

[flora_digitalis]

When posting in offering threads you should:
Avoid to troll and sig-spam like user killyou72 by posting garbage and repeatedly harassing the thread opener by making offers when the thread opener does not want to deal with you, because he does not deem you trustworthy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg45581187#msg45581187
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg50859640#msg50859640

[teeGUMES]

When posting in offering threads you should:
Avoid to troll and sig-spam like user killyou72 by posting garbage and repeatedly harassing the thread opener by making offers when the thread opener does not want to deal with you, because he does not deem you trustworthy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg45581187#msg45581187
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg50859640#msg50859640

yes please update OP with this

[wheelz1200]

-always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow, it what makes our little playground work so well.  Dont always need to use it but it should be openly accepted.

[FFrankie]

-always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow, it what makes our little playground work so well.  Dont always need to use it but it should be openly accepted.

That's a much better way to phrase the escrow. I updated the OP

[ChiBitCTy]

When posting in offering threads you should:
Avoid to troll and sig-spam like user killyou72 by posting garbage and repeatedly harassing the thread opener by making offers when the thread opener does not want to deal with you, because he does not deem you trustworthy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg45581187#msg45581187
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg50859640#msg50859640

You should also avoid posting garbage items for months and years on end, continuously bumping threads for items that are not only off topic but also something no one wants that simply just clog up a board.

[wheelz1200]

"always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow"

and also, you have to mutually agree upon one.. you can't force someone to use a certain escrow/person.

Agreed that is a good point.  As long as both buyer/seller comfy then all good. 

[Hhampuz]

"always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow"

and also, you have to mutually agree upon one.. you can't force someone to use a certain escrow/person.

Everyone just use MJ and we call it a night.

[ChiBitCTy]

"always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow"

and also, you have to mutually agree upon one.. you can't force someone to use a certain escrow/person.

Everyone just use MJ and we call it a night.

MinerJones is great, but there’s other great Escrows- Krogothmanhatten, Yogg, Hhampuz, OG, and prob others I’m forgetting.

[AT101ET]

Most of the unspoken rules are unspoken because they are logical and assumed. When a new user makes a mistake, said mistake is pointed out and the noob learns and moves on.
Not sure if such a thread is needed, but even if it was, I sincerely question OP’s suitability for compiling such a list.

[TMAN]

Most of the unspoken rules are unspoken because they are logical and assumed. When a new user makes a mistake, said mistake is pointed out and the noob learns and moves on.
Not sure if such a thread is needed, but even if it was, I sincerely question OP’s suitability for compiling such a list.

He is the most suitable as he has had every fucking thing told to him 25 times, he is just so mental it took 5 years to sink in.

[El duderino_]

Most of the unspoken rules are unspoken because they are logical and assumed. When a new user makes a mistake, said mistake is pointed out and the noob learns and moves on.
Not sure if such a thread is needed, but even if it was, I sincerely question OP’s suitability for compiling such a list.

He is the most suitable as he has had every fucking thing told to him 25 times, he is just so mental it took 5 years to sink in.

I have to say, I was relative new in collectibles and dealing on terms that were mainly written by the OP's, though I never had any problem and just think that many things are just obvious for when you trade or buy something, sometimes people just have act as a grown up and don't have every single thing written down in text.

The only main thing that one has to know is, when you buy something look to the reputation of the member you're dealing with and when you doubt him then use escrow and nobody can get hurt....

But for myself I not a child and deal a lot with people IRL to, unspoken rules are just known and to be respected as they are just logical and benefit all the dealing party's ....

I never saw Raffle in my life and stuff so I just viewed a few threads and OK now we understand how it works, I have PM'ed a lot with some collectible members, always have been helped out very well on all my needs so, for me its very good how this whole collectible section is going as it is.

Again all those I have handled with THX for the services I have enjoyed t'ill now, and I hope to deal with many more in the section.

Also sometimes to do a bid with some colour like .025 BTC... I hope nothing wrong with that, we have to keep our self amused or am I wrong ?

[klaaas]

Also sometimes to do a bid with some colour like .025 BTC... I hope nothing wrong with that, we have to keep our self amused or am I wrong ?

Of course !    Keeps the good mood going.

Most people also add a rule what will happen with forum downtime. Could also added to the OP.

[wheelz1200]

Also sometimes to do a bid with some colour like .025 BTC... I hope nothing wrong with that, we have to keep our self amused or am I wrong ?

Of course !    Keeps the good mood going.

Most people also add a rule what will happen with forum downtime. Could also added to the OP.

I love the big BTC so long as it's not obnoxious big.  If people get bent over font size for a BTC they need to lighten up a bit. 

[teeGUMES]

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Are you telling me this bid is valid? It's a brand new account with only 3 posts and the only thing they have done is bid on your auctions

This guy followed your unofficial rules and you chose to attack him instead of speak with him or refer him to this thread. What does a newbie member/bidder need to do to stop this? How can you create a thread of a compilation of unofficial rules like this and then shit all over someone that followed them one day later?