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June 03, 2019, 08:40:02 PM
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Advantages:
User interface: Easy and smooth
No registration: Even my grandma can use it if she wanna be anonymous  Smiley
Tor network friendly: Using VPN + Tor network will be bulletproof.
Time delay: Each transaction has a different timestamp on the blockchain.
Fee calculator: Fixed fees are better.


Disadvantages:
High fees: I know, anonymity has a cost but you can lose customers because of competition.
No option to recover the session: I took a screenshot due to lack of the restore button on mixing page for a case.
No way to change or edit output address: What if suddenly my deposit address expires on the exchange because of the transaction with low mining fees.
Minimum amount: You need to change the minimum mixing amount for low profile customers.
No extension: Again unconfirmed transactions can ruin my week if the miner's fee is lower than required.

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June 04, 2019, 12:01:43 PM
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The one thing i noticed:
Including fees, i have spent 0.001962 to make a 0.0015 BTC transaction.
Your exact value and fee calculator told me that a 0.0015 BTC deposit would result in a 0.00128 withdrawal.
When i combine the output values of the two transactions funding my withdrawal address, i get 0.0012795... I know, it's only 0.0000005 BTC (50 satoshi's) less than you promised, but since you already take quite a hefty fee, i think that you should make sure the calculated output value matches the actual output value....
The calculation error can occur only in case if small amounts are mixed and here we talk about one-hundred-thousandth parts. When bigger amounts are mixed, the calculation is correct and the amount displayed and received after mixing is the same. However, thank you for pointing it out. We will think if we can do anything here.

 On top of this, splitting the output into two unspent outputs increases the fee i'll have to use to spend both by about 0.0001 BTC compared to spending a single unspent output (at current feerate).
This means that, after spending 0.001962, i'll get the equivalent of 0.0011795 BTC in clean, spendable funds...
In this case we recommend to enter only one receiving address and the total amount split into 2 transactions will be sent to this address.

I know why you don't allow people to chose the output timeframe, nor the number of outputs, nor the size of the outputs, nor the exact fee... However, i like to feel in controll... Personally i'd like to have some kind of "expert - i know what i'm doing" menu that allowed to to chose the size and number of outputs, the feesize and the delay.
Very soon we are going to implement the option with which our customers will have more flexibility when it comes to choosing the size of outputs. Follow the news on our official thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853

Ending on a (very) positive note: i traced the outputs funding my withdrawal addresses and ended up on a poloniex wallet for one of the outputs, and an unknown wallet holding ~80 BTC after  +1000 transactions... This means that your system is telling the truth and the funds are coming from a clean source.
This being said, it does look like you get a big unspent output from a "clean" source, and you keep re-using this unspent output to fund all mixing sessions...
It's like:

unspent output of 3 BTC from a clean source funding your address
unspent output of 3 BTC used to pay first client => 3 BTC in, 2.9 BTC to your change address, 0.1 BTC to your first client
unspent output of 2.9 BTC used to pay second client => 2.9 BTC in, 2.7 BTC to your change address, 0.2 BTC to your second client
unspent output of 2.7 BTC used to pay thirth client => 2.7 BTC in, 2.6 BTC to your change address, 0.1 BTC to your thirth client
unspent output of 2.6 BTC used to pay fourth client => 2.6 BTC in, 2.3 BTC to your change address, 0.3 BTC to your fourth client

The thing is: it will allow me to find other people that used your mixer, since i only have to follow the trace after my own mixing session. This is not a problem, as a matter of fact, it's pretty common to see this kind of behaviour amongst mixers, as a matter of fact, it's the same with chipmixer (if i initiate a mixing session and get my chips, i can now follow other people that used chipmixer).
In fact we replenish our funds with BTC received from cryptocurrency stock exchanges. We verify this money with our proprietary mechanism. When there are many orders for mixing [banned mixer] tries to choose wallets so that no change leaves on them. Sometimes the BTC on one wallet will be enough only to perform 2 or 3 mixing operations and after that the wallet will be empty to zero. After that the chain becomes  untraceable.

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June 04, 2019, 04:05:13 PM
 #103

Is this still available or let me put it this way - are you interested in one more review even though I am quite a new member? At least I am serious. Wink

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June 05, 2019, 08:29:22 AM
 #104

Hi everybody,
We have not received any reviews for quite a long time. The time interval when a participant gets money from us and leaves their review is rather long in recent days. We kindly ask Bitbollo and Coupable write to us if they have any issues while mixing coins or if everything is ok, submit a review. These are conditions of our campaign for which you applied and agreed to its terms.
[banned mixer] team has not interrupted the campaign and we continue sending 0,0015 BTC to all participants.
Here is the list of those who will be the next:
Danslip
Thirdspace
PryptoMontreal
YIz
Apoorvlathey
Yazher
Asritajudin
rdbase
nelson4lov
I can do the review for you once the test amount is sent and given the proper allotted amount of time to process the mixed coins.
Sent the btc address via a pm to you.

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June 05, 2019, 04:00:00 PM
 #105


-=[ Thirdspace Review of MixTum.io ]=-
#13 review by Thirdspace


& prelude
I used clearnet for mixing and made a deposit transaction with a low fee rate of ~7s/VB
then mempool size was getting even bigger and recommended fee was going up as high as 200s/VB
finally it gets its first confirmation after about 19 hours, and I received the first output 15 minutes later
I feel sorry for mixtum because this transaction has a very high tx fee rate of 140+ s/VB
the fee amount is higher than the output amount itself, ~10-20s/VB fee rate should've been enough at the time
then in about 5 hours the second output arrived in my address with again high network fee of 100+ s/VB
in short, for my deposit of 150k sat I received back ~127k sat, and mixtum spent 50k+ sat in tx fee Shocked
so mixtum mixed my coins and incurred a loss of ~27k sat Cry I hope this doesn't happen often to your business

& speed
very good indeed, I don't expect less Cool with that much of overpaid network fee
up to 6 hours mixing time is about standard time for a mixer, so this is acceptable for me

& accuracy
mix outputs arrived within the allotted time, maximum in 6 hours as promised
mix amount received very close to the amount indicated by the value & fee calculator

& user interface
all menus has good enough visibility and accessibility
being located on the top and below of the page, you can't miss them
but you are missing "back to top" button to make navigation a lot easier  

& website design
I think the design is a bit corny, MixTum... Mixer Tumbler... a picture of mixer? Roll Eyes
the layout is adequately simple and compact without any problem on reading all the contents to the end
the information presented is quite complete, clear, and concise on each and every section



& comments & suggestions
  • mix output comes from multisig address, I think this is a good security on the mixer side
  • you might want to support bech32 address to accomodate some native segwit hardcore user out there
  • enable user to set a desired amount on one of the mix outputs to make it harder for chain analyser
  • improve algorithm on calculating minimum fee rate to save fees on output transactions

overall, mixtum mixer service is a pretty easy to use mixer for all levels of user expertise
however, optional custom settings would be great to cater advanced users with special needs
on service fee, it's rather high for me and if I there's an option, I would go for lower fee with slower confirmation time
I notice there's also a telegram bot available for your service, I haven't tried it yet... I will do it later Wink

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June 06, 2019, 07:27:02 AM
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--snip--

 On top of this, splitting the output into two unspent outputs increases the fee i'll have to use to spend both by about 0.0001 BTC compared to spending a single unspent output (at current feerate).
This means that, after spending 0.001962, i'll get the equivalent of 0.0011795 BTC in clean, spendable funds...
In this case we recommend to enter only one receiving address and the total amount split into 2 transactions will be sent to this address.
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I don't mean to nitpick, but this solution wouldn't change a thing... Even if i only entered one receiving address, the address would still be funded with 2 new unspent outputs. If i wanted to spend those 2 unspent outputs, fee-wise, it wouldn't matter if they were funding 2 distinct addresses or one address, the transaction size would be roughly the same for both situations...

The transaction size is based on the number and type (P2PKH, P2SH,...) of inputs the number and type of outputs... Not on the address that was funded

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Last edit: June 07, 2019, 10:05:39 PM by yazher
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Ok I just want to say that, I received The Bitcoin amount for testing I already mix my coins after I receive it later I will post my review.


My Review about [banned mixer]

So it was my first time using a mixer First time I did was followed the instructions carefully and I didn't get a hard time following it.
after I send some BTC on the BTC address that the [banned mixer] gave me, I thought I just gonna wait for a day to get my BTC back but that's not the case for my opinion the speed is good since I got it all back in not less than 3 hours.

About the website design, I think if they can just make it more user-friendly that would have been good. I don't know about developing a website but base on other mixer sites that I saw, [banned mixer] need to have some improvement.

The Good thing about the [banned mixer] is easy to use as most users said even who doesn't know how to use a mixer can easily mix their Bitcoins without worry. as I did mix mine even I don't have a clue about how to use it.

Because this is my first time using a mixer I don't give a disadvantage on using a [banned mixer] until I used some other mixing service out there. since it goes well for me I recommend you guys to use [banned mixer] service on mixing your Bitcoins.

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June 07, 2019, 05:55:53 PM
 #108

Hello everybody,
For now we have sent the promised amount  of 0,0015 BTC to all participants who were approved for this campaign and included in the list. Here is the list of members who have already received  money but have not submitted  reviews
PryptoMontreal
YIz
apoorvlathey
yazher
asritajudin
rdbase
bitbollo
nelson4lov
All participants can write reviews without waiting for precedent members to leave theirs, so the reviews can be submitted in random sequence.

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June 08, 2019, 10:03:12 AM
Last edit: June 09, 2019, 10:30:40 AM by bitbollo
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First of all, thanks to be here as a tester for your service @[banned mixer]. This is the first time I have used a bitcoin mixer.

Before start to use their mixer, I made a search on google, and actually there are not fake redirect about your site.
Home page it's very clear and easy to use. Free option on home page is very appreciated.
With just one click, after providing the two address I get my deposit address and all ready to mix my coin.

Deposit page without options is an advantage for user that try to mix for first time their coins.
But there is not any option for advanced user?! Likewise option for split in several address !?

I have set an high fee (10k satoshi, the default one on Multibit wallet).
Nice to see a letter of guarantee with all information regarding the operation...

In the end, the service it's pretty easy to use. I have seen the lack of features for experienced user. But this can be also an advantage for the safety of your operation.
I will update this review with final information with txt confirmed.

EDIT: I received the mixed coins as promised. But I get only 90k satoshi that it seems much more of what considered in letter of agreement (5% + 15k satoshi).
I think you should clarify this aspect (same concept as @mocacino) because newbie could be scared from these differences and not want use anymore a mixer site due the high fee.

General experience was easy and even fast. There are some aspects that could be improved but anyway you are on the right way (8+/10).

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June 08, 2019, 09:24:24 PM
Last edit: June 10, 2019, 12:33:06 AM by rdbase
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I have received the amount from the OP and will update this post with the review once the bitcoin amount sent has confirmed and the remaining amount of bitcoin has been received to the wallet address being specified on the site.
This is what I have got to send about the mixing so far via screens.


Still awaiting confirmation and mixed coins. Will report back once received and completed.

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Firstly i would like to apologize for the lateness of my review, i have been having some issues with my internet as of late.

Pros of [banned mixer]:
i felt the site was very clearly displayed out and easy to understand, nothing as jarring or offputting to the eye, and all the essential info is there and easy to access.
using the site itself was super easy as well, 3 clicks and your set to go, no hassle or anything of the sorts.
coins you send arrive on time within the 6 hour window they provide long with a letter of guarantee.

Cons/improvments for [banned mixer]:
okay so, i think there is definitely room to improve, while the site is clear to understand, i feel it would benefit from a little clean up as well as making the hyperlinks to navigate more viewable.
Next, i was fairly disappointed that you do not currently support segwit/Bech32 addresses and fee it is something you should 100% work towards in the near future.
The fee for mixing i feel is a tad to high, but nothing in the realm of absurdity, however, this being my first time using a mixer i have no fees to compare to, as long as your fee stays competitive then thats alright by me.
lastly, while the site was vary easy to use, i was took back a little by the lack of control you have in the specifics of the mixing process, such as changing fee price in exchange for slower/faster delivery of the coins.

Overall i think your site delivers on what it promises. i sent coins, coins was mixed, i received coins. all in all i think you have a very solid foundation, now you just need to perfect the imperfections. good luck!
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June 10, 2019, 12:27:56 PM
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Next, i was fairly disappointed that you do not currently support segwit/Bech32 addresses and fee it is something you should 100% work towards in the near future.
Indeed, for now we do not support Segwit/Bech32 receiving addresses, but you may send money for mixing from them.

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Last edit: June 13, 2019, 08:29:30 AM by MixTum_Bitcoin_Mixer
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Dear participants,
Some of you are dissatisfied by the fact that the amount of BTC received  after mixing is lower than expected due to loss on transactions commission. Indeed, here we speak about very small amount, 0,0015 BTC + current high network fee. But this is a testing amount, and the mixer itself spends more on commissions than it gets.
In this case we recommend to send only 0,001 BTC for mixing (this is the minimum supported amount), enter only one receiving address and after mixing the money will be back in only one transaction.

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Last edit: June 14, 2019, 09:53:23 PM by apoorvlathey
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Just revisited this thread and came to know about the campaign update.
Would post my review in this post soon...



It might have been my second time that I had used a mixer and it was very easy to use. Don't know why others are requesting a tutorial though, the process is just straight forward with no account creation, just directly coming to the main purpose.

I tested the mixer by sending 0.001btc as you mentioned in the post above. Not complaining, but I sent 0.001(+0.0000904 txn fee) and received back exactly 0.001, though I had not selected the free option, but I guess the system automatically assumed it and didn't send 0.0008 BTC instead as calculated by the site's calculator.
The mixed coins were received in one transaction only and to my luck in just less than 3 hrs.

On the free trial page, the amount mentioned is 0.001 BTC, so the same should be mentioned on the page following it which currently states that: "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.001, max 50 BTC)".

Personally, I did not have any problems in using the mixer as the coins were received in time and the process was easy to execute.

It would be great if your site could incorporate a logo as the one in the favicon doesn't look much professional.
As others have already mentioned, bech32 addresses must also be enabled as quite of us are using them.



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June 13, 2019, 11:44:54 PM
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The Mixtum Mixer does what it says. It mixes  coins amd forwards clean coins to customers. I received my test coins and did the necessary testing. Here's what I think about Mixtum Bitcoin Mixer.

What I like:

– Does what it's meant to do.
– The website is fast and lightweight with no registration
– I get a letter of guarantee in case of complaints/disputes.
–Received Clean coins
– A fee calculator which can come in handy.

What I dont like :

– The website design is pretty basic. I want to assume that what the website lacks in design, It got it in speed.

– The calculator is a bit off, not too far from accurate though

– I prefer to have more customization options. Like how many time interval per mixing transaction and more.

– Clicking the menu option automatically takes me off my mixing information page. Please fix.

– High fees. Like others said, the high fee would be a turn off for customers.

– No way to recover my session once I leave the page.

Like I said before, Mixtum does exactly what it says. I think It's one of the cleanest coins I've received from a bitcoin mixer which is impressive. I didn't try the tor version though. An overhaul of the website would be great. A crasp website design should do just fine. That and other suggestions by other reviewers should be looked into.

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June 16, 2019, 05:52:21 AM
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I have received the amount from the OP and will update this post with the review once the bitcoin amount sent has confirmed and the remaining amount of bitcoin has been received to the wallet address being specified on the site.
This is what I have got to send about the mixing so far via screens.


Still awaiting confirmation and mixed coins. Will report back once received and completed.
I never did receive the mixed coins and this was over 4-5 days when they were sent. I pm mixtum bitcoin mixer and told them what occurred but no response from them last time they logged in yesterday.
The page has not changed where it says "awaiting confirmation" when on the blockchain.info page the bitcoin sent were fully confirmed the same day they were sent.
So I do not know if the maintenance caused this problem because when I tried to log into the site a couple of days ago I received this site can not be accessed message for a few hours. It is back up now but still the same awaiting confirmation on the page when sent 0.0015btc.

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June 16, 2019, 08:32:06 AM
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I never did receive the mixed coins and this was over 4-5 days when they were sent. I pm mixtum bitcoin mixer and told them what occurred but no response from them last time they logged in yesterday.
The page has not changed where it says "awaiting confirmation" when on the blockchain.info page the bitcoin sent were fully confirmed the same day they were sent.
So I do not know if the maintenance caused this problem because when I tried to log into the site a couple of days ago I received this site can not be accessed message for a few hours. It is back up now but still the same awaiting confirmation on the page when sent 0.0015btc.
We sent you a pm. Please be informed that the mixing process starts as soon as the transaction gets at least one confirmation in the network. You may check it here https://www.blockchain.com/
As for the message on the [banned mixer] website "awaiting confirmation" it might be a bug, and you should rely on confirmations from the network.
In the PM you sent us the receiving address you entered in the field "forward-to address". Please check again that there were two input transactions 0.0007795 BTC and 0.0005 BTC from two different addresses. This is money you have got after mixing. Let us remind you that if even you enter only one receiving address the amount is splitted into two parts and returned two you in two transactions. This is a  security and anonymity measure.
Please check one more time that the money was returned to you. We are here to assist you.       

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June 16, 2019, 12:06:57 PM
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I never did receive the mixed coins and this was over 4-5 days when they were sent. I pm mixtum bitcoin mixer and told them what occurred but no response from them last time they logged in yesterday.
The page has not changed where it says "awaiting confirmation" when on the blockchain.info page the bitcoin sent were fully confirmed the same day they were sent.
So I do not know if the maintenance caused this problem because when I tried to log into the site a couple of days ago I received this site can not be accessed message for a few hours. It is back up now but still the same awaiting confirmation on the page when sent 0.0015btc.
We sent you a pm. Please be informed that the mixing process starts as soon as the transaction gets at least one confirmation in the network. You may check it here https://www.blockchain.com/
As for the message on the [banned mixer] website "awaiting confirmation" it might be a bug, and you should rely on confirmations from the network.
In the PM you sent us the receiving address you entered in the field "forward-to address". Please check again that there were two input transactions 0.0007795 BTC and 0.0005 BTC from two different addresses. This is money you have got after mixing. Let us remind you that if even you enter only one receiving address the amount is splitted into two parts and returned two you in two transactions. This is a  security and anonymity measure.
Please check one more time that the money was returned to you. We are here to assist you.       
Yeah it must be a bug with the system because the awaiting confirmation still stands as it is not changing, which causes a bit of concern especially when the address inputted during the mixing process is one which is used frequently. You wouldnt know where the funds came from which was the case here. I received them but thought it was a send I made earlier because I was expecting around the same amount to be sent back but as you explained early on there is a fee for sending so the amount will be less.
Aside from that it was done successfully. Thank you for the clarification on the mixing and where it went to and the needing to put in two addresses so to not have any confusion with using it in the future.

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June 18, 2019, 06:58:04 AM
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Dear forum members,
MixTum Review Campaign is almost over and we are waiting for PryptoMontreal and Asritajudin to submit their reviews. Both members confirmed that the testing amount was received. Let us know if you have any issues.
By the way, we continue getting messages from other forum members who would like to test and review MixTum mixer. The option of Free Testing is always available on our website: sending 0,001 BTC = receiving 0,001 BTC, no commission is charged for mixing. Take advantage of it, use the mixer and say how you  feel about it. We really care about your feedback and take into consideration your comments.

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My Review of [banned mixer]
Sorry for the late review but today I got a chance to try [banned mixer] out! My experience and review is as follows :
I liked the way the site has been kept simple without any unnecessary graphics and animations! Makes it look very professional.
Ability to mix coins without registration makes the process much quicker!
The fee calculator is a good thing but the high fees are a turn-off! With the increasing price of bitcoins, the fees is ~2$+ which added up with transaction fees makes up to 4$+ in fees which is crazy for amount as low as 15-20$

I received clean coins in no time, the only bad thing I felt was the fees which definitely can be reduced by the team as per their convenience!
The thing that matters the most is the user's experience which pulls a potential customer and existing ones back to the site, and MixTum have done a great job with that
Overall Score 8/10
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