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May 09, 2019, 01:03:42 AM
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I'm just wondering if its possible to have this kind of system where you just need to scan your finger print and you will be login directly to your account.

I'm talking about this one using our mobile phones since most of the phone now have their own finger print technology, and i usually used my phone to work on this forum. Any violent reactions or any clarification are really appreciated. Thank you.  Smiley

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May 09, 2019, 01:06:45 AM
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Considering the fact that 2FA has not yet been implemented on our SMF-based server, it's unlikely to see this happen any time soon.
An alternative would be to use a password manager that will recognize your fingerprint.

Selling your fingerprint data for convenience, though... hm...

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May 09, 2019, 01:20:45 AM
Last edit: May 09, 2019, 01:32:11 AM by 1miau
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I don't think (hope) that such a feature will ever be implemented. Everything can be hacked and I wouldn't feel comfortable to send my personal finger print as verification here, there are much better solutions to increase the security. 2FA would be fine but if you have staked an address here, you should be fine.
And remember: most hacks happen because the person in front of the device made a mistake.  Wink

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May 09, 2019, 01:41:41 AM
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Yeah it could be possible at your own risk. This because finger print is unique to every individuals. And I do not want my finger print to.give to any institutions unless it is really needed or being asked.

Besides, bitcointalk account has secured already by the admins. So, let us just trust the system and should wait if it is really a necessity to implement finger print.

For now, I do not see that this is needed but we can look forward on it in the near future.
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May 09, 2019, 02:22:41 AM
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The best way would be to implement https://webauthn.io
The fingerprint information is not really sent to the website, but just a "the user is who he says he is" message. A compatible browser is required for that. As far as I know it's quite secure, and USB/NFC keys could be used too instead of/besides fingerprints.

However there's no SMF plugin for this (I might be wrong). Considering there is already an SMF 2FA plug-in ready to be installed and it's not because of the risk of damaging something, I don't think there's any chance to implement webauthn in the foreseeable future, as actmyname said.

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May 09, 2019, 02:57:15 AM
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Giving up personal data in exchange for something that doesn't even make your like that much easier is definitely not even close to being worth it. Just use a trusted and reputable password manager app on your phone that has an autofill feature so you wouldn't need to re-enter your login credentials when logging in. Needing a fingerprint login is just being extremely lazy in my opinion.

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May 09, 2019, 04:07:19 AM
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Maybe next time we have someone suggesting that what if we use facial identifiers to log in to our account, That would be convenient for us than using a fingerprint. Imagine waking up in the morning and you haven't wash your face yet and when you trying to log in, BitcoinTalk won't recognize you. it will say "That Face does not exist."

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May 09, 2019, 04:29:27 AM
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It would be convenient but how  many people here use mobiles to login into the forum?
The forum posts are barely readable on mobile.
AFAIK just a few computers enable finger print reading and i am not sure if the finger print reader can even be used beyond login in through the OS like it is on mobiles phones and yet i believe the forum is mostly accessed through Personal Computers so this feature would just favor currently very few people using mobiles to access it.

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May 09, 2019, 05:51:17 AM
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That will take a lot of time to be implemented even a 2FA hasn't been done yet for forum use. I use mobile as it is handy to bring anywhere else and most of the time this is where I read topics here on the forum. Though I like to realize that feature I guess it is still not secure as there are times fingerprint technology on mobile has some issues too when it comes to security as I experience that when I use it on my phone it doesn't recognize some of the time.
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May 09, 2019, 07:05:37 AM
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Worst idea ever I have seen on this forum. Fingerprints is very very sensitive thing for us. I don't know why we like to divert to decentralized system. Every information could be found about you relevant with fingerprints. Why should I provide my fingerprints in order to use forum? Sound isn't good really. Put your finger print on third party website expect government, there is high risk for you. You know why? I will give example below.

As usual we trust always our mobile service providers with fingerprints and personal details as well. Just few days ago I bought a sim card with my fingerprints from general store(not office of service provider). So what they did ? Active multiple postpaid simcard on my name and sell to other people's. They had activate 9 simcard with my fingerprints from different service provider. Wondering how is it possible. I just give fingerprint one time and they have actived 9 sim cards from multiple provider. When I check online how many simcard belongs to my name & ID then I discover 9 simcard under my fingerprint. Almost $100 I have spent just for disconnect all of simcard. So be careful when you are going to handle your fingerprint.

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May 09, 2019, 07:24:41 AM
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How would it know which of my alts to use? Smiley

I've got the fingerprint app disabled on my phone, and a sticky over the camera lens on the phone and computers. I don't use near field identification or contactless cards either. I'm also a fan of cash payments, I'm such a luddite. Goodness only knows how I became a Bitcoin believer.

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May 09, 2019, 07:37:03 AM
Last edit: May 09, 2019, 07:57:21 AM by sheenshane
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What is the purpose of using fingerprint when you are login in the forum? Easy login and being lazy to type your password?

This issue has been discussed here so many times even they are suggesting U2FA for having second layer security of your account but not yet implemented. I think @1miau has right, once you've to stake your Bitcoin address here then, your account will be fine. And there is also the second option of having the extra security layer of your account. Set a secret question that found in your profile as a seed phrase on your account if ever it is being hacked then easy to recover.(but make it sure write in a piece of paper and keep in a safe place)

Just an example.



I think that is too sensitive using fingerprint when you are log in. Nothing to worry if you know how to keep your password safe and having a clean laptop and mobile phone.

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May 09, 2019, 07:37:18 AM
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As far as I know signing a message and quoting it is already enough in order for you to get your account back.

Most of us here are actually working our ass out anonymously. Also I don't think if we can implement that certain feature to this forum because as far as I know we are using an older programming language in which finger print detection was not yet discovered . As you have noticed most of the system that uses fingerprint as a security access is on mobile applications and not from a website or web application.  
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May 09, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
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This is too much I guess. Why will a forum log in ask to give your finger print? This is a place for learning related stuff on bitcoin. Do you think people will share finger print for logging in here?
We must create the forum more user friendly. Newbies will be stuck with these changes you are thinking of.

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How would it know which of my alts to use? <…>
It would also delimit the number of Alts that a single person can manage to 10 (20 at best if one tends to keep his socks off). That would place a strong restriction on solo account farming  Smiley … but potentially expose everyone to being doxed to authorities. No win there (downside way superior to potential upside).
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May 09, 2019, 08:50:11 AM
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Do you think people will share finger print for logging in here?

Well, after the last April Fool (KYC), we now know that Theymos can ask for anything and a lot of people will do it.
For next year, I will propose a KYC with genitalprint Smiley.

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May 09, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
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Yesterday was KYC, today is fingerprints, tomorrow will be the retinal scanning/face recognition, and we gonna end up with a teeth recognition at the end.
The one-man-army a.k.a theymos cannot make miracles here, at least not so big ones, so one day ... (hope this will be before the time we mine the last bitcoin) ... will come a new, better, quite expensive already, software which will replace the SMF and we gonna step into the 21 century.
I like the old-fashion way of SMF but I'm an 80's baby so...

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May 09, 2019, 10:25:04 AM
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This is already possible if you have an iPhone.

All you have to do is login to the forum using your password from your phone, and tell your iPhone to save your password. Your password will be saved to your keychain and when you access the login screen in the future, you will be prompted to use your saved password, and if you want to, you will be prompted to use your touch id to access your saved passwords in your keychain.
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I do not like this idea because it means publishing a fingerprint online and this can violate privacy and security.
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May 09, 2019, 11:52:42 AM
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Worst idea ever I have seen on this forum. Fingerprints is very very sensitive thing for us. I don't know why we like to divert to decentralized system. Every information could be found about you relevant with fingerprints. Why should I provide my fingerprints in order to use forum? Sound isn't good really. Put your finger print on third party website expect government, there is high risk for you. You know why? I will give example below.

As usual we trust always our mobile service providers with fingerprints and personal details as well. Just few days ago I bought a sim card with my fingerprints from general store(not office of service provider). So what they did ? Active multiple postpaid simcard on my name and sell to other people's. They had activate 9 simcard with my fingerprints from different service provider. Wondering how is it possible. I just give fingerprint one time and they have actived 9 sim cards from multiple provider. When I check online how many simcard belongs to my name & ID then I discover 9 simcard under my fingerprint. Almost $100 I have spent just for disconnect all of simcard. So be careful when you are going to handle your fingerprint.
I appreciate the effort of this one, btw I'm just wondering if this thing is possible and I don't make any suggestion.
Well, this answer my queries with so much explanation. Thank you for this.  Smiley

It would be convenient but how  many people here use mobiles to login into the forum?
The forum posts are barely readable on mobile.
I feel the convenience using my phone but of course serious topics or thread can't be done by just using your phone.

What is the purpose of using fingerprint when you are login in the forum? Easy login and being lazy to type your password?
For convenience, a more advance to access your accounts just like having and application where you just need to scan your finger?
Honestly, I'm still thinking for this one if its really possible but since it got so much criticism I think its hard to happen.


Thank you everyone for the answer, I'm happy because I got so much response and some of those response makes me smile honestly.
Some are open for this possibilities, and some are not but only time can tell and no one knows about the future

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