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May 11, 2019, 07:26:14 PM
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Hello Everyone,

Welcome to my thread. Currently in meta section i have seen a lot of ban appeal thread. So many members including legendary, DT accounts are getting ban due plagiarism issues. You can find from LoyceV's thread how and why so many accounts have got banned recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.0

Unfortunately some best contributors are also getting banned nowadays. Maybe someone actively reporting for plagiarism post or created a strong bot for reporting plagiarism I think thats the reason why people are randomly getting banne. As an example you can read this Ban Appeal . Basically their plagiarism issues was a matter of their past mistakes. In my opinion at the beginning of their forum journey they have made those mistakes and maybe they didn't know about the rules at that time. For why they haven't bother to delete their posts.  

I opened this thread to let them knows who haven't got enough knowledge about plagiarism. I will friendly suggest them to review their post history and delete the post if there is any copy - paste from others. You can save your account from plagiarism related ban by following this step. Feel free to visit this thread link for getting proper tips to avoid plagiarism TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM

Honestly we don't want to lose a single good quality poster or contributor of the forum for this kind of plagiarism issues. I believe its better to erase our old mistakes and also should be careful in future to avoid plagiarism strictly.  

Special Note: Don't forget that forum rules is same for everyone.
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May 11, 2019, 07:37:19 PM
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A person with new account or old account must always read forum rules if there is any changes or not. When posting we should make sure that it's entirely your work and not someone else's work you just copy without giving credits to the owner or providing the source where you get the idea. In short, always add the site of the source if you are planning to share an idea, guides or tips in here. As discussed many times plagiarism is about copying someone's work and claiming it as your own idea and get banned.

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May 11, 2019, 08:10:47 PM
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<…>I will friendly suggest them to review their post history and delete the post if there is any copy - paste from others. You can save your account from plagiarism related ban by following this step.<…>
I doubt that many people will actually recall what posts they copy/pasted in order to pinpoint them and delete them.

I’m personally not keen on deleting past posts as a practice. Perhaps on a recent post one may make a mistake or provide information similar to another recent post, and decide to erase it before it gets read, but older posts are part of your history on the forum, and should remain essentially there.

Perhaps the question we should be asking is why people resort to copy/paste in the first case. With few exceptions, the answer is generally down to speeding up the signature campaign quota compliancy, or merit fishing.

Note: If the forum wanted to go hardcore on plagiarism, they could easily do it with processes that work directly against the database. For some reason, that does not take place, and it's down to thirdparty to report these cases.

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May 11, 2019, 08:35:54 PM
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I strongly believe the reporter of those recent plagiarism cases is a bot, I just read LoyceV thread and I'm seeing 300-400 banned users daily in the last two days it can't be a human maybe that's why quality contributors are getting punished for their past mistakes. Just like I did some time ago, I believe if a user is putting in some effort in regards to contributing positively to the forum and you come across any of his post that can implicate him/her for plagiarism the noble thing to do is call his attention to correct it but when the user doesn't change then you can alert moderators through reporting.

OP you should include this thread; TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM so new members can benefits too.

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May 11, 2019, 09:02:09 PM
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I strongly believe the reporter of those recent plagiarism cases is a bot, I just read LoyceV thread and I'm seeing 300-400 banned users daily in the last two days it can't be a human maybe that's why quality contributors are getting punished for their past mistakes. Just like I did some time ago, I believe if a user is putting in some effort in regards to contributing positively to the forum and you come across any of his post that can implicate him/her for plagiarism the noble thing to do is call his attention to correct it but when the user doesn't change then you can alert moderators through reporting.

OP you should include this thread; TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM so new members can benefits too.

Thanks for providing the thread link mate. Thread has been updated with the link which will surely help our community users to avoid plagiarism IMO. 
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May 11, 2019, 10:55:53 PM
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Welcome to my thread. Currently in meta section i have seen a lot of ban appeal thread. So many members including legendary, DT accounts are getting ban due plagiarism issues. You can find from LoyceV's thread how and why so many accounts have got banned recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.0


Thats insane actually. Is the need for merit put people to such desperate measures as plagiarism?
Personally i saw couple people that made "guides" here, which was not even formatted copy-paste but didnt realise scale of this behaviour.

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All you need to do to avoid getting banned for plagiarism is not plagiarize. This is not a complicated concept.

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May 12, 2019, 02:00:41 AM
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Welcome to my thread. Currently in meta section i have seen a lot of ban appeal thread. So many members including legendary, DT accounts are getting ban due plagiarism issues. You can find from LoyceV's thread how and why so many accounts have got banned recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.0


Thats insane actually. Is the need for merit put people to such desperate measures as plagiarism?
Personally i saw couple people that made "guides" here, which was not even formatted copy-paste but didnt realise scale of this behaviour.

Most of the merit givers are merit sources and those who have merit to give are mostly great members who knows the rules. So I think they will not give merits to plagiarize post.
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May 12, 2019, 05:03:31 AM
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Just create/compose your own. If you can't do that yet, then read and learn first.

Those high-ranked accounts were recently banned for posts/comments they made years ago when they were just a newbie. It's unfortunate that they did not start right.

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May 12, 2019, 06:05:44 AM
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OP you should include this thread; TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM so new members can benefits too.
LOL, I thank you so much for mentioning about my topic, that is more meaningful during such hottest period of plagiarism Ban Appeals. By now, banned users should spend their time to read my topic before creating their Ban Appeals. Prevention will save more time, reduce burden of stress and other things. Be more careful whenever you use Copy & Paste buttons when your account actively login, then you will be fine.

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Some of those users really deserved the ban as they copy-pasted content to get merit, to increase their post count in signature campaigns and most were aware of what they were doing. However some users did it while participating in bounty campaigns and ICOs wherein they followed rules that required them to do so and even though it is wrong, I feel such participants should be given some warning and signature bans instead of being permanently banned. In such cases the managers and project managers should be banned just like it happened earlier when the rule of many bounty campaigns was to post in the ANN thread.

Sometimes users mistakenly post email content on the forum without a source link so I don't know if that can be termed as plagiarism as in such cases citing the source is tough.

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May 12, 2019, 09:48:03 AM
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In such cases the managers and project managers should be banned just like it happened earlier when the rule of many bounty campaigns was to post in the ANN thread.
Nope. It is nearly the same as requirements from campaign managers to post:
- Proof of authentication
- Application form.
Campaign managers have not been banned with such above requirements, so I don't think that they will be banned with other template requirements (I maybe wrong, not sure).
I guess you meant this campaign, that results in the perma-ban of sarul. Suddenly got banned,

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Nope. It is nearly the same as requirements from campaign managers to post:
- Proof of authentication
- Application form.
Campaign managers have not been banned with such above requirements, so I don't think that they will be banned with other template requirements (I maybe wrong, not sure).
I guess you meant this campaign, that results in the perma-ban of sarul. Suddenly got banned,

Campaign managers have been banned earlier for posting such requirements as it is considered "incentive-based posting strategy" and I am not talking about Proof of authentication kind of posts.

Yeah, I meant users like sarul as such campaigns should be banned instead of the users. Campaigns shouldn't make users copy-paste the same sentence as users may do it considering it's OK but it comes under plagiarism.

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However some users did it while participating in bounty campaigns and ICOs wherein they followed rules that required them to do so and even though it is wrong, I feel such participants should be given some warning and signature bans instead of being permanently banned.
The "rules" of an ICO or bounty campaign do not trump the rules of the forum. If you plagiarize, you will be banned.

I think an exception can be made in a minority of cases where the user is obviously a good contributor to the forum, with a history of useful and constructive posts, an extensive positive trading history, huge numbers of good reports, etc., and the plagiarism wasn't made for purely selfish/financial reasons. In these cases, a temporary or signature ban is acceptable. The vast majority of cases do not fall in to this category however, and certainly not the example you have given. People plagiarizing for the sole reason of earning money through a signature or bounty campaign deserve a permanent ban.

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May 12, 2019, 04:02:20 PM
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Reasons why most people will plagiarize and get banned then ban appeal.
1.) Won't create their own content.
2.) They want a fast work.
3.) Lazy.
4.) Desperate in getting merit.
5.) Being "Greedy".
6.) They want "EASY" work.
7.) Easy Money💰.

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May 12, 2019, 04:02:34 PM
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I am also pretty sure that the plagiarize detector is a bot, not a human/user here. That was a huge number of users get banned in a short period of time they are all busted and auto-banned, I can't imagine how it works 700 users overall had busted.
Here's I can say to avoid plagiarized content just create your own unique reply or post then you are totally fine in plagiarizing content(Don't be a lazy one). It's impossible to have the coincidence plagiarized one line sentence that you had posted with the same content in another post without the intention of copy pasting.

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May 12, 2019, 04:29:52 PM
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Why not just make it simple? "Do not steal others content". I can't remember if I have copy paste any post especially from forum. Perhaps I use quote of article from forum out side with ordinal link occasionally just for references. However, it would be better option review post history in case if there is any copy paste. But wondering how we will detect which posts were plagiarized since lot of post on our profile.

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May 12, 2019, 11:13:51 PM
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In the spreadsheet, I see that the company lasted 8 weeks and ended on June 29, 2018
Tell me please, the bounty company has really ended, and when will our bets be calculated for the work done?
Maybe, on that day lovesmayfamilis was too lazy to ask for bounty payments and copied & pasted post of another participant of that campaign. It would have been better if using quote to repeat the question, the account has likely been fined. I agreed that lovesmayfamilis should have another opportunity (with ban uplift) based on general positive net-effects in the forum with his/ her general contributions (scam findings - 79 scam projects found shown in the OP) over months.
That one is plagiarised post, sure, but it is so foolish (sorry for the word) to make such plagiarism due to seconds of lazy to ask for information. I have no doubt that lovesmayfamilis likely did not have any shady thoughts with that plagiarised post, maybe it mainly come from lovemayfamilis' second-lasting laziness.  Undecided




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May 13, 2019, 12:13:46 AM
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Hello Everyone,

Welcome to my thread. Currently in meta section i have seen a lot of ban appeal thread. So many members including legendary, DT accounts are getting ban due plagiarism issues. You can find from LoyceV's thread how and why so many accounts have got banned recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.0

Unfortunately some best contributors are also getting banned nowadays. Maybe someone actively reporting for plagiarism post or created a strong bot for reporting plagiarism I think thats the reason why people are randomly getting banne. As an example you can read this Ban Appeal . Basically their plagiarism issues was a matter of their past mistakes. In my opinion at the beginning of their forum journey they have made those mistakes and maybe they didn't know about the rules at that time. For why they haven't bother to delete their posts.  

I opened this thread to let them knows who haven't got enough knowledge about plagiarism. I will friendly suggest them to review their post history and delete the post if there is any copy - paste from others. You can save your account from plagiarism related ban by following this step. Feel free to visit this thread link for getting proper tips to avoid plagiarism TIPS TO AVOID PLAGIARISM

Honestly we don't want to lose a single good quality poster or contributor of the forum for this kind of plagiarism issues. I believe its better to erase our old mistakes and also should be careful in future to avoid plagiarism strictly.  

Special Note: Don't forget that forum rules is same for everyone.


Will make sure to read up on the rules more thoroughly. As far as I know, I haven't done anything that would fall under the umbrella of "plagiarism" in my relatively short time here.
That being said, I can't help but get a bit worried when a bot is involved. Logically speaking, a bot makes sense, moderating a large forum manually would take a lot of manpower and all that -- but the things are known to mess up, especially in early implementations. Hope that the bot's findings are manually reviewed before the hammer comes down.

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Last edit: May 13, 2019, 03:22:05 AM by btcsmlcmnr
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I don't see the benefit of removing someone who only did damage (plagiarized) years ago, especially if they are now otherwise being a member who is contributing to the forum.
It will repeatedly happen over time. Someone might argue that:
- I plagiarised 6 months ago, and today I get perma-ban, but I might become a constructive user of the forum next month. You can not ban me today and say that I got such perma ban because you believe that I won't be able to change and become more constructive user in
- Something like two questions, will repeatedly ask over and over.

Therefore, I think that what theymos wrote is clear:
There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
All perma-ban cases will be handled hand-by-hand. At first, people who plagiarised will instantly get perma-bans immedietaly with proof of their plagiarisms.
After that, they are constructive users and actually have significant contributions and did some positive net effects for the forum before their perm-bans, they can make Ban Appeals with all proofs of their  best contributions to ask for their second chances with ban-uplifts. I think it is fair enough.

Only one thing should be considered with signature ban period after their perma-bans uplifted:
- How long their signature ban will last?
- Which criteria will decide the period of their signature ban?
I saw a few case with signature ban for one or two years, and not sure that there are diversifying signature-ban period or not. If there are big difference, it might result in comparisons between perma-ban-uplifted users. Fortunately, total cases that get perma-ban-uplifts are so scarce, and I have a feelings that they probably satisfy with their ban-uplifts and don't want to ask for anything more from admin. At least, they have second lives.
ChiBitCTy (one-year signature ban)
redsn0w (two-year signature ban)
Limx Dev (I am not sure about Limx Dev account, signature has not shown again, but there is no text on period of signature ban)
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