Protect Your Account From Plagiarism Ban

[erikalui]

The "rules" of an ICO or bounty campaign do not trump the rules of the forum. If you plagiarize, you will be banned.

I think an exception can be made in a minority of cases where the user is obviously a good contributor to the forum, with a history of useful and constructive posts, an extensive positive trading history, huge numbers of good reports, etc., and the plagiarism wasn't made for purely selfish/financial reasons. In these cases, a temporary or signature ban is acceptable. The vast majority of cases do not fall in to this category however, and certainly not the example you have given. People plagiarizing for the sole reason of earning money through a signature or bounty campaign deserve a permanent ban.

I am not sure about it as in this case the user was asked to promote the brand/project by the project itself so he did not claim it as his own content and also mentioned the project's URL which means he posted the content for the company. If he had to post a "Note" below the message that he is posting this content on behalf of the project, would it still be termed as plagiarism? This is similar to posting ANN threads that contains content copied from the website. I couldn't find the source of the message but it was provided by the project itself.

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[o_e_l_e_o]

I am not sure about it as in this case the user was asked to promote the brand/project by the project itself so he did not claim it as his own content and also mentioned the project's URL which means he posted the content for the company.

Posting content written by somebody else without providing a source is still plagiarism, regardless of whether they gave you permission to do so. You are passing someone else's words off as your own.

If they used it as a quote, or included a link to the original, then that wouldn't be plagiarism. However, if there are dozens of bounty spammers all posting the same message, then there is a good chance they could be banned for spamming, rather than banned for plagiarism.

[okala]

This rules if one really need to have a healthy bitcointalk account and free from red tag and ban you have to adhere strictly to them in other to avoid getting into any of them, and the first thing any new member should do is to read the rules of this forum and build good reputation.

[tranthidung]

Posting content written by somebody else without providing a source is still plagiarism, regardless of whether they gave you permission to do so.

Having permission of author or not, leaving source link, full quote, or quote with author's name is the only way to avoid plagiarism. If someone don't have shady purposes, they don't mind to leave source link or quote.
By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

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[quote author=tranthidung link=topic=5141952.msg51036325#msg51036325 date=1557783933]
By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?
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This is how your reply will look like so technically it isn't plagiarism and even though it gets reported by bot don't forget the moderators taking care of reviewing each reports are all humans so they'll consider it as a honest mistake and from my quote above it already shows I'm not the owner of the qouted message which means I'm not trying to present your post as mine so reporting such cases will just be a waste of time instead corrections should be suggested to OP

(will qoute correctly after you must have viewed my reply)

By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?
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[Ipwich]

The suggestion is just so timely and newbie would really need to read this to be aware.
However, we should view this a warning to prevent from being perma ban.

I am an old member of the forum and I have not effort checking my post even knowing there is a massive ban, that's because I'm confident that I'm not doing the certain violation. Most of the cases I saw was about copying post of a certain member, so the time it was made, a user was already aware he is committing a serious forum rules violation.

As a newbie, we are obliged to read the rules to diligently follow it, so no excuses.

[TalkStar]

Perhaps I use quote of article from forum out side with ordinal link occasionally just for references. However, it would be better option review post history in case if there is any copy paste.

Using another quote or research something for making a reply is a preparation component and its always accepted because no one isn't master in every section. you can obviously use this way for your knowledge development and providing quality reply's. Yeah if a user feel it necessary to review his post history than it can save him obviously.

As a newbie, we are obliged to read the rules to diligently follow it, so no excuses.

Yeah agree with your thinking and it's a responsibility for any forum user to obey forum rules and encourage others to do same.  

[o_e_l_e_o]

By the way, I have only one curious question that: What happen if I the quote button to quote your post, for example, but during my time to compose my post to answer you I mis-delete the end bracket? Is this considered as plagiarism if someone else use bot to find plagiarised posts and report such posts?

It may very well be reported as plagiarism, by a user or a bot, but I would think you would be very unlikely to be banned for it. If it is quite obviously supposed to be a quote, and you have just messed up the BB code, I'm sure the moderators would realize that and not issue a ban. I'm sure I remember this exact scenario being discussed in a meta thread a while ago.

[tbct_mt2]

It may very well be reported as plagiarism, by a user or a bot, but I would think you would be very unlikely to be banned for it. If it is quite obviously supposed to be a quote, and you have just messed up the BB code, I'm sure the moderators would realize that and not issue a ban. I'm sure I remember this exact scenario being discussed in a meta thread a while ago.

I think you are right. After receiving reports from forum members, mods will do their tasks, and at the end, admins or global mods might recheck reported cases (that already checked and confirmed by mods) before doing perma-bans.
We likely have tripple-checking procedure: Bots/ Forum members > Mods > Global Mods or Admins.

What's next after reports of plagiarsims?

Posts are reported to moderators who check out the report. If the poster needs to be banned, the moderator sends a ban report up to a global mod or admin. The global mod or admin handles all of the ban reports they get at around the same time. Either the admins or global mods don't need to check every account because they trust the moderators to have already done so, or they check quickly because every such report contains references and links to the plagiarism post and to the source text so checking takes little time.

[Pmalek]

I assume it would be sufficient to write something along the lines, 'I read on facebook' or 'I saw on TV' when writing a post to avoid being reported for plagiarism.
One might see an interesting discussion on the facebook wall without commenting or liking it. So that post doesn't become part of your activity log. The next time you open facebook, it is no longer there.

Or you might remember a discussion you saw on TV without knowing the show, person etc. Now imagine that you write a post mentioning what you heard on TV or read on facebook and it turns out that a very similar rephrased or exact discussion already took place somewhere else.

If the user doing the reporting or the admin who checks the report doesn't pay enough attention he might think you stole the information from that source without providing a reference while in fact that wasn't the case.     

So my question is, would it be enough to write 'I read on facebook' or 'I saw on TV'? In theory it should because you are not claiming it as your own, you just can't provide a source link to something you don't know is there.

[tbct_mt2]

So my question is, would it be enough to write 'I read on facebook' or 'I saw on TV'? In theory it should because you are not claiming it as your own, you just can't provide a source link to something you don't know is there.

For your question, this is why I wrote the 1.2 solution there:

1.2. Using quote block without exactly original source
Using this method when you don't remember exactly where is the source of the content you post, or you simple write it down from your memory but you doubt that you might plagiarise somehow.

"Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "stealing and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions" and the representation of them as one's own original work.[1][2]"

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[quote]
"Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "stealing and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions" and the representation of them as one's own original work.[1][2]"
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For example, I can write this one, and don't plagiarise.

Facebook's founder is Mark Zuckerberg

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[quote author=sources on facebook]
Facebook's founder is Mark Zuckerberg
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[Stedsm]

It's actually a good thing if you try and show the source of the content you're using to put here. Come on, what's making you ashamed of it when it's not your content afterwards? When we speak about quality here, we talk about a person's own ability and eligibility to write something that had not been created/published elsewhere which shows that the said person has got his own genuine ideas with which he/she is contributing by telling us something interesting that we didn't know before.

I guess that none of these users that come here - read the rules at first, and then cry later. If that's the case, the banhammers will continue to do their work and ban appeals will pop up as usual.

My tips to save yourself from plagiarism:

- Don't steal anybody's content. You've got your brains, use it to make a meaningful sentence. If you don't know English, learn. If you can't even do that, you don't need to post here (or simply, no need to be here as when you can't even discuss anything on your own then why are you here? Just see and learn, find your questions).

- Use quotes and use author's name in the first quote (be it from Bitcointalk - automatically shows up once we click "quote" OR somewhere else you've taken the content from). It's better to use archive and then just paste that thing here. The best thing would be to just share the work through links and don't just copy only (and if done, just paste the exact thing here with the source link).

@theymos,
Can I ask you something?
When I gave my first tip here, I just saw something and thought to ask you about the same. Isn't it possible for you to raise immediate warnings to new users when they ask the same questions like what is Bitcoin? What is confirmation? etc. etc.

Because this boosts a lot of spam as many users who've already answered it for at least 100 times, use that thread and start talking bullshit to create one more megaspam thread.

[tbct_mt2]

Sure, it should be done with full source link, but in case we can not remember where it is and can not find it, but we know exactly who said it, we can use quote block with author names. However, it is the last option.

It's actually a good thing if you try and show the source of the content you're using to put here.
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- Use quotes and use author's name in the first quote (be it from Bitcointalk - automatically shows up once we click "quote" OR somewhere else you've taken the content from). It's better to use archive and then just paste that thing here. The best thing would be to just share the work through links and don't just copy only (and if done, just paste the exact thing here with the source link).

@theymos,
Can I ask you something?
When I gave my first tip here, I just saw something and thought to ask you about the same. Isn't it possible for you to raise immediate warnings to new users when they ask the same questions like what is Bitcoin? What is confirmation? etc. etc.

Because this boosts a lot of spam as many users who've already answered it for at least 100 times, use that thread and start talking bullshit to create one more megaspam thread.

I guess you suggest something like this, and it is a great idea, honestly. Some kind of warning like:
"Warning! You ask a common question, that repeatedly asked thousands of times by Newbies in the forum. So, please cancel the post, don't publish it. Instead, you should go there: Searching to find available answers. You most likely find available answers for your question"

Anyone posting info from their bounty application (usernames, addresses, etc.) or anything alongside the lines of "joined X", "looking forward to getting X", "thanks for the opportunity", "filled out form", "signed up for X", "applied", "following / liked / retweeted X" when such data is not required or the requirement is against the forum's rules risk having their account banned. These are extremely low quality posts generate massive amounts of spam, drowning out any legitimate discussion these threads may posses.

[PrimeNumber7]

To those who are trying to educate people to property use the "quote" function: I do not believe the wave of plagiarism is the result of unintentional lack of citations.

Many of the examples of plagiarism resulting in bans I have seen compromise of posts made entirely of content from a single, other source. There is no additional commentary, content, or even a brief statement saying they agree with the content. This makes me believe the intention was to try to pass off the words of someone else as their own, for their own financial benefit.

I believe the best advice is below:

All you need to do to avoid getting banned for plagiarism is not plagiarize. This is not a complicated concept.

The OP should be edited to reflect this advice.

[Stedsm]

To those who are trying to educate people to property use the "quote" function: I do not believe the wave of plagiarism is the result of unintentional lack of citations.

Many of the examples of plagiarism resulting in bans I have seen compromise of posts made entirely of content from a single, other source. There is no additional commentary, content, or even a brief statement saying they agree with the content. This makes me believe the intention was to try to pass off the words of someone else as their own, for their own financial benefit.

I believe the best advice is below:

All you need to do to avoid getting banned for plagiarism is not plagiarize. This is not a complicated concept.

The OP should be edited to reflect this advice.

You mean as you've said:

The OP should be edited to reflect this advice.

And then, when someone copies the whole statement and adds up something without quoting it:

The OP should be edited to reflect this advice and make everyone understand the rules in a much better way.

This is also considered as plagiarism (I made it clear to those who just copy - paste such contents of other users without their permission and as well, they don't even wrote but add up bullshit with what's already said by someone before).

Even unnecessary quotes (making stairs of spam without adding anything constructive and meaningful to the discussion) can also lead you to ban, so just learn from everyone's experiences and watch out, because you're under the radar and being watched as well. So, my best advice would be to ignore any such mistakes that could lead you towards a ban (maybe a permaban when it's about plagiarism).

[tbct_mt2]

It is exactly confirmation on highly intentional plagiarsim. Copying and pasting without source, without quote, you can not say that it is unintentional plagiarsim. It is only truth for someone whom don't know how to use quote block, and the rule of plagiarsim in the forum. Even in such case, it is faults of posters, not the forum, and they can not deny that is plagiarism made by themselves.

To those who are trying to educate people to property use the "quote" function: I do not believe the wave of plagiarism is the result of unintentional lack of citations.

Many of the examples of plagiarism resulting in bans I have seen compromise of posts made entirely of content from a single, other source. There is no additional commentary, content, or even a brief statement saying they agree with the content. This makes me believe the intention was to try to pass off the words of someone else as their own, for their own financial benefit.

Best advice includes:
- Read rules
- Learn how to use quote
- Don't intentionally steal others' ideas.

All you need to do to avoid getting banned for plagiarism is not plagiarize. This is not a complicated concept.

The OP should be edited to reflect this advice.

And then, when someone copies the whole statement and adds up something without quoting it:

The OP should be edited to reflect this advice and make everyone understand the rules in a much better way.

This is also considered as plagiarism (I made it clear to those who just copy - paste such contents of other users without their permission and as well, they don't even wrote but add up bullshit with what's already said by someone before).

theymos emphasizes it there:

• Plagiarism: If you copy some text from somewhere, then you should have a good reason for it, and you must link to the source. Doing otherwise is plagiarism. Changing a few words around doesn't matter. If we find that you plagiarized, then you absolutely will be permanently banned, even if we find it years after you did it.

Maybe, you implied about pyramid quotes. [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

Even unnecessary quotes (making stairs of spam without adding anything constructive and meaningful to the discussion) can also lead you to ban, so just learn from everyone's experiences and watch out, because you're under the radar and being watched as well. So, my best advice would be to ignore any such mistakes that could lead you towards a ban (maybe a permaban when it's about plagiarism).

For authors' permissions to quote their statements, or images, it is unnecessary there, but we actually should ask for permissions in real life to maintain good moral behaviours.
Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..

- That's not plagiarism.
 - If there is dox outside of the investigations section, report it with that as the reason.
 - If someone is threatening violence against you, report it with that as the reason.
 - If you have a copyright claim, you have to PM/email me a valid DCMA takedown notice with all required elements, including your address, a declaration under penalty of perjury, etc. Note that I will forward your notice to the affected users.
 - The forum is not under EU jurisdiction.

[TalkStar]

Best advice includes:
- Read rules
- Learn how to use quote
- Don't intentionally steal others' ideas.

Yeah those can keep someone far from committing plagiarism. Discovering self creativity is a good thing and its blindly appreciated by all. Lets forget to copy paste others ideas and establish self as a well reputed member of this community. One thing we should keep on mind that if we steal ideas from others sooner or later it will reveal. So my humble request to our forum newbies , "Do not steal ideas from others, show your own unique ideas and creativity", We are eagerly waiting to see every single users particular performances guys.

[The Cryptovator]

Seems ban issue become more complicated, because still I have seen last day a well reputed user got ban. I think there multiple thread about ban issue how to avoid ban including this OP. But wondering why they are not reviewing their post history yet. Either delete or edit would be solution right now. I am not encouraging for plagiarism but if someone did mistake on past then this oppurtunity to save their account by deleting or editing post.

It's not just matter of forum post. Copy from out side forum also would be consider plagiarism and ban your account. So just use your brain and follow up your post history would save your account. And try to avoid copy paste even with source link. It's not good practice. Just try to write yourself and you can use link for as a reference link. No need to copy paste all content or use quote.

[Stedsm]

Maybe, you implied about pyramid quotes. [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

Even unnecessary quotes (making stairs of spam without adding anything constructive and meaningful to the discussion) can also lead you to ban, so just learn from everyone's experiences and watch out, because you're under the radar and being watched as well. So, my best advice would be to ignore any such mistakes that could lead you towards a ban (maybe a permaban when it's about plagiarism).

Not just limiting it to pyramid quotes (but thanks for the proper word there).
I mean, I want people to understand the exact use of quoting here.

Why should quotes be used then?
When an important discussion is being done and you want to debate on that, you can quote the author's content and start discussing, but it's better to use ~snip~ for longer responses by them. One most important thing here if you want to keep the whole quote of a person is - QUOTED FOR REFERENCE (FUTURE). This is the purpose quotes serve here. If you believe that the important "said" thing can / maybe / will be edited by author and that change may be to prove themselves innocent in case they show up guilty in future for any of the related deeds to that quoted content, then that quote will work like a charm.

For authors' permissions to quote their statements, or images, it is unnecessary there, but we actually should ask for permissions in real life to maintain good moral behaviours.
Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..

I don't think there's anything bad in quoting anyone's content or images (except if the data is confidential like someone's real life profile or even publishing anything personal about an entity without their consent, and in case of images, if the image is a copyrighted one, then you'll surely get into a big problem here my dear).

[tbct_mt2]

One most important thing here if you want to keep the whole quote of a person is - QUOTED FOR REFERENCE (FUTURE). This is the purpose quotes serve here.

I know it. Users can edit, or delete their posts, so if it is likely important post, it should be quoted for future reference. Or, there is a better option to archive page includes that post. Archive has better effects because we can archive a page and see flow of discussion through that archived page. Quote has only effects for reference of a single post, and it is hard to see flow of discussion.