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May 12, 2019, 10:51:16 PM
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Not sure how this is related to number of accounts waking up because in your stats, it's about account registrations.

What we are seeing right now is a scenario where old newbie and brand-new accounts that were mostly registered back in 2017, 2018 waking up lately.
I understood what you implied but I pointed out that activities of crypto enthusiasts usually become more actively when bitcoin rising: more new registered accounts, more woke-up accounts, more scammers, more shitty projects launched, and so forth. My above charts present only new registered accounts, not woke-up ones, but the fact is nearly the same for woke-up accounts, I believe. In 2017, I saw some old accounts woke-up due to bitcoin all time high, and those ones are not hacked accounts. It's the point.

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May 19, 2019, 06:36:28 AM
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I've seen a similar question before, that's why theymos added averages to seclog:
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493 users/day in the last month, 395 users/day in the last year.
Last month, it's just 25% more than the last year.
1. Seven days later, the number of average users per day in the last month is almost twice the value that was quoted:
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833 users/day in the last month, 417 users/day in the last year.

2. 22,951 Accounts have now woken up in the last one month, Also almost double the number of accounts i reported had woken up 7 days ago (12,369)

3. It's worthy noting some accounts that woke up in massive numbers were involved in the infamous fake Ann saga that was rampant a few days ago in the Altcoins Announcements board
The accounts seem to have been accessed by the hacker but passwords were not changed as some individuals complained about not posting any fake ANNs.

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May 19, 2019, 10:09:04 PM
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1. Seven days later, the number of average users per day in the last month is almost twice the value that was quoted:
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833 users/day in the last month, 417 users/day in the last year.

2. 22,951 Accounts have now woken up in the last one month, Also almost double the number of accounts i reported had woken up 7 days ago (12,369)
How many of those recently woke-up accounts are Newbies, or Junior Members? It makes more sense if you can retrieve such data.  Wink

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May 19, 2019, 11:08:24 PM
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Then we should keep an eye to them. However I think most of them couldn't climb up the ladder unless they start making merit trades.  I just hope they will only continue to swarm up the alt threads if thats the case you shouldn't be worrying too much


I also got a suggestion, since you are interested with this topic and you are actually gaining data. Can you start creating the impact of the said zombie accounts?. You just have to make data on how are this zombie accounts acting after waking up.
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May 19, 2019, 11:18:07 PM
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Then we should keep an eye to them. However I think most of them couldn't climb up the ladder unless they start making merit trades.  I just hope they will only continue to swarm up the alt threads if thats the case you shouldn't be worrying too much


I also got a suggestion, since you are interested with this topic and you are actually gaining data. Can you start creating the impact of the said zombie accounts?. You just have to make data on how are this zombie accounts acting after waking up.
Most of them (woke-up newbies) will end with nukes, I believe. Because they most likely come from farm accounts, and they can not act better than spamming the forum. So, sooner or later, they will report by professional reporters, then if they will be found as farm accounts, they will be nuked. iasenko has a topic for such purpose (Spambuster club).  Smiley

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May 20, 2019, 05:32:22 AM
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How many of those recently woke-up accounts are Newbies, or Junior Members? It makes more sense if you can retrieve such data.  Wink
As of now.
1 - 22984 Accounts(All accounts including Newbie and brand new) woke up in the last one month
Average users per day (All accounts) is
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833 users/day in the last month, 416 users/day in the last year.

2 - 1006 Ranked up accounts (Jr member to Legendary) woke up in the last one month
Average users per day (only ranked up accounts) is
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48 users/day in the last month, 43 users/day in the last year.

3. This means 21978 Newbie and Brand New accounts woke up in the last one month.
This pretty much reflects that something is not right since the number of Newbie and brand new accounts that have just woken up is way too abnormal compared to all the other ranks combined.



I am not so technical with the data scraping thingy to sort out accounts that woke up per rank and comparing the data to the past one year but this is an interesting trend to follow with this bull market  Wink

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May 20, 2019, 05:52:12 AM
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How many of those recently woke-up accounts are Newbies, or Junior Members? It makes more sense if you can retrieve such data.  Wink
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I am not so technical with the data scraping thingy to sort out accounts that woke up per rank and comparing the data to the past one year but this is an interesting trend to follow with this bull market  Wink

You have done a great job, base on your non-tech. knowledge for scraping of data, and was able to do wonderfully well. One can easily spot out these numbers between the recent woke-up accounts, keep it up  Cheesy .

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May 20, 2019, 07:30:24 AM
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Then we should keep an eye to them. However I think most of them couldn't climb up the ladder unless they start making merit trades.  I just hope they will only continue to swarm up the alt threads if thats the case you shouldn't be worrying too much


I also got a suggestion, since you are interested with this topic and you are actually gaining data. Can you start creating the impact of the said zombie accounts?. You just have to make data on how are this zombie accounts acting after waking up.
Most of them (woke-up newbies) will end with nukes, I believe. Because they most likely come from farm accounts, and they can not act better than spamming the forum. So, sooner or later, they will report by professional reporters, then if they will be found as farm accounts, they will be nuked. iasenko has a topic for such purpose (Spambuster club).  Smiley
Then if that's tha case there is no point in worrying about how they are going to make impact with the current situation.

Good thing really about right now is that there are more active patrollers right now unlike before. Tho, i am not sure if the jr.member accounts can be easily nuked or ban since that might involved actions from the staffs anymore
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May 20, 2019, 08:40:32 AM
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3. This means 21978 Newbie and Brand New accounts woke up in the last one month.
This pretty much reflects that something is not right since the number of Newbie and brand new accounts that have just woken up is way too abnormal compared to all the other ranks combined.
It could be related to the increase in Bitcoin price: say someone made an account a long time ago, saw Bitcoin in the news, searched for it, ended up on this forum again, and read a few posts. That's enough to label his account as "woke up", without ever posting anything.

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May 21, 2019, 11:27:44 AM
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After a brain storming session, throwing ideas on the wall to see what sticks ... one of them is still on my wall.

Would consider useful if users that wake up would receive an e-mail alert. Something in the means of "Hello X, after a long period of time we noticed activity on your account. If you did not login, please use this link to temporary block your account / change password etc. If it was you please ignore"

This might help in cases where accounts get hacked after years on inactivity and used for all kind of wrong purposes  Smiley

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This might help in cases where accounts get hacked after years on inactivity and used for all kind of wrong purposes  Smiley
It certainly might help in the cases where higher ranked or green trusted accounts are being hacked and used for scamming, but in the vast majority of cases like we are seeing at the moment with brand new and newbie accounts waking up to be used to spam, I suspect the original owner simply won't care enough to follow the link and lock their account.
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May 21, 2019, 12:10:55 PM
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It certainly might help in the cases where higher ranked or green trusted accounts are being hacked and used for scamming, but in the vast majority of cases like we are seeing at the moment with brand new and newbie accounts waking up to be used to spam, I suspect the original owner simply won't care enough to follow the link and lock their account.

That was actually the point, tho there were cases when even if not well established ... "their username" was used on several websites / projects and would not want it to be associated with malicious behavior ... especially HERE Tongue

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