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May 24, 2019, 05:37:11 PM
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You just don't take any decision from any one on forum or internet just to cash out without doing your own analysis. On what basis will some group of people fud about a coin so all do panic rewarding? If you are a season trader you just don't wake up and make trading decision base on what the populace is chanting.
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May 25, 2019, 10:44:48 AM
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All of the community here in the forum had their own speculations how can We get earnings of bitcoin. And if there is greed people I think its already part in any aspects of businesses whether it is traditional or online business.
How can a person be greedy in their business and still do their business properly? I mean its possible that there are people who are not ethical in their work but they would soon be caught by other people and taken to authorities. Being shady only hits back one time and that is something nobody wants in crypto. In fact since people already have more negative emotions on crypto, adopters tend to be more lenient towards using it.

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However, since that We are in crypto world were there are two ways only for us to earn bitcoin or altcoins were it is short and long term holdings of coins.
Holding a coin wont get you anything. If you are referring to dividends given to hodlers then its nothing better than bank interest rates. The real money comes from trading those coins.
First, I do not agree with people who thinks that holder are greedy, most holders simply do not know how to trade and since they don’t know how to trade for them to be able to multiply their investment overtime, holding becomes the best option, we can only use the word greed for trader who fails to take profit at a particular time with the mindset of taking higher.

How then can you also say that holding won’t get people anything? So how were people who got their money in a big way through cryptocurrency 2017 did it? Isn’t it by holding? I know trading pays too, but still cannot be as much as holding would give.
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May 25, 2019, 12:10:14 PM
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All of the community here in the forum had their own speculations how can We get earnings of bitcoin. And if there is greed people I think its already part in any aspects of businesses whether it is traditional or online business.
How can a person be greedy in their business and still do their business properly? I mean its possible that there are people who are not ethical in their work but they would soon be caught by other people and taken to authorities. Being shady only hits back one time and that is something nobody wants in crypto. In fact since people already have more negative emotions on crypto, adopters tend to be more lenient towards using it.

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However, since that We are in crypto world were there are two ways only for us to earn bitcoin or altcoins were it is short and long term holdings of coins.
Holding a coin wont get you anything. If you are referring to dividends given to hodlers then its nothing better than bank interest rates. The real money comes from trading those coins.
That really helps if your cost of investment is down. Normally people invest in Bitcoin and other coins when the market has already gone up and the prices are no more down. That way, HODL could be too more risky than when you invest when the price of your coins is low. HODL actually makes you more money by value addition when your cost of investment is down.
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May 25, 2019, 02:19:36 PM
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You just don't take any decision from any one on forum or internet just to cash out without doing your own analysis. On what basis will some group of people fud about a coin so all do panic rewarding? If you are a season trader you just don't wake up and make trading decision base on what the populace is chanting.

Making a decision from what we read without making analysis will be dangerous for everyone because they don't know what the real happening. That will be too risky for us because we could end up by losing the money we use to buy the coin. We don't know why they do that thing, but the only reason for them to do that will be to make people panic so they can take the profit from the news they spread.

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May 25, 2019, 03:38:28 PM
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You just don't take any decision from any one on forum or internet just to cash out without doing your own analysis. On what basis will some group of people fud about a coin so all do panic rewarding? If you are a season trader you just don't wake up and make trading decision base on what the populace is chanting.

Making a decision from what we read without making analysis will be dangerous for everyone because they don't know what the real happening. That will be too risky for us because we could end up by losing the money we use to buy the coin. We don't know why they do that thing, but the only reason for them to do that will be to make people panic so they can take the profit from the news they spread.
They take advantage of the panic that occurs to buy low, understanding the news is indeed very good but if we eat all the news without any research done on its own then it will also be a loss in the end. There have been many communities here who are always reminded to do their own research and that it is solely for their good too to know what really happened before making a decision in trading.

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May 26, 2019, 12:57:01 AM
 #106

You just don't take any decision from any one on forum or internet just to cash out without doing your own analysis. On what basis will some group of people fud about a coin so all do panic rewarding? If you are a season trader you just don't wake up and make trading decision base on what the populace is chanting.
Not totally, trying to make decision only based on what you believe and not paying any attention to what other people do is not always good, because this market is drived buy how the community reacts and do and  reading what others are going to do and their opinion from the forum for example is a good way to help you make a decision, i say the ones that you really should not take any ideas from are the people who claim to say that the know or speculate about the price.
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May 26, 2019, 05:30:24 AM
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Everyone has their own goals in trading, I think we can combine both the strategy of the holding and the short-term idea, both can give different results, much depends on the entry points and the situation in the digital market
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May 26, 2019, 05:42:33 AM
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I have seen some recent posts after this somewhat "unexpected" Bitcoin pump that people are greedy and hence should cash out! Really!!? I don't know why people are saying so but we have endured the longest bear market ever (I suggest Theymos should give all of us a tag  Grin for that achievement  Grin), with insults from people that we're greedy, charlatans, etc. And funny enough! there are people amongst us who have seen thousands, hundreds, of Dollars drain down to "coins" and now that we are about to smile some are saying we're greedy and should cash out! I don't know why they are saying that but for those who have been in the game fr a long time know we are no where near where we've been before. Please if you want to cash out, fine you can but don't call HODLers greedy! In fact, we deserve a citation rather lol...

All of the community here in the forum had their own speculations how can We get earnings of bitcoin. And if there is greed people I think its already part in any aspects of businesses whether it is traditional or online business. However, since that We are in crypto world were there are two ways only for us to earn bitcoin or altcoins were it is short and long term holdings of coins.

If anyone is the long term holders of the coins that there is nothing to worry about. You can buy bitcoin and/or any good altcoins and keep them with your for few years. You will definitely get good returns.


You just don't take any decision from any one on forum or internet just to cash out without doing your own analysis. On what basis will some group of people fud about a coin so all do panic rewarding? If you are a season trader you just don't wake up and make trading decision base on what the populace is chanting.

If you are a trader and follow the general public, you will lose eventually. Whales mostly play opposite of what majority of the public is thinking. Whales keep accumulating when public are dumping and while public are buying, its the whales who are dumping their coins on them.
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May 26, 2019, 05:55:25 AM
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I have seen some recent posts after this somewhat "unexpected" Bitcoin pump that people are greedy and hence should cash out! Really!!? I don't know why people are saying so but we have endured the longest bear market ever (I suggest Theymos should give all of us a tag  Grin for that achievement  Grin), with insults from people that we're greedy, charlatans, etc. And funny enough! there are people amongst us who have seen thousands, hundreds, of Dollars drain down to "coins" and now that we are about to smile some are saying we're greedy and should cash out! I don't know why they are saying that but for those who have been in the game fr a long time know we are no where near where we've been before. Please if you want to cash out, fine you can but don't call HODLers greedy! In fact, we deserve a citation rather lol...
I think each person has different views on investment. Some people are prone to safety in investment and some people like risks. They give you advice, you should thank and consider it.
For those who insult and laugh at those who like venture capital, ignore them because they are losers who like to ridicule people. They certainly won't be rich and we should focus the road ahead.

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May 26, 2019, 03:37:32 PM
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indeed the volatile price conditions often make most traders very frustrated because they think the way to hold assets is still not able to reduce anxiety at any time and that's where it is likely to be the main factor traders are still worried about when they want to invest in the future.

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May 26, 2019, 10:34:41 PM
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I have seen some recent posts after this somewhat "unexpected" Bitcoin pump that people are greedy and hence should cash out! Really!!? I don't know why people are saying so but we have endured the longest bear market ever (I suggest Theymos should give all of us a tag  Grin for that achievement  Grin), with insults from people that we're greedy, charlatans, etc. And funny enough! there are people amongst us who have seen thousands, hundreds, of Dollars drain down to "coins" and now that we are about to smile some are saying we're greedy and should cash out! I don't know why they are saying that but for those who have been in the game fr a long time know we are no where near where we've been before. Please if you want to cash out, fine you can but don't call HODLers greedy! In fact, we deserve a citation rather lol...


There's not a bad thing for those people who encash their bitcoin immediately and also for those people who still holding until now. Those who have already encashed are playing safe and we cant blame them for maybe they lost a lot on the last pump. On the other hand, if their decision is that, dont call the holders greedy for they know its the smartest way to earn big.

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May 27, 2019, 02:21:55 AM
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Eaxh trader has its own target. Just because you doing a short term trade and decided to cash out at the little profit does not make the rest traders greedy for holding. There are long term holders that prefers to hold because they believe in the project and most times they make enough profit

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May 28, 2019, 08:25:38 AM
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Everyone has their own goals in trading, I think we can combine both the strategy of the holding and the short-term idea, both can give different results, much depends on the entry points and the situation in the digital market
It would not really be a bad idea for those that knows how to trade to combine the two, it would just be like using a stone to kill 2 birds, we can have part of our investment tied to long term investment while our other part of investment could be used to always buy when the price moves towards the dip direction, while we sell when the coin pumps.
   
If we notice the way bitcoin price has been moving this time, we will see that it has really given opportunity to those who would want to explore this suggestion of yours, I think I should also try this, because most of my investment has been for long term, but I can still practice taking profit also.
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May 28, 2019, 08:40:15 AM
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Haven’t heard that anyone call long term investors greedy.
But why are you so worried about that? You should be happy for your investments. May be other people are jealous.
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May 28, 2019, 09:05:35 AM
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If you want to be a professional investor, you should stop paying attention to the words of others. it just distracts you and doesn't help. The comments from the forum members are not helpful to your portfolio, they just try to insult you so that you are down and do not get the best performance.
Stay calm and continue trading. You will see the difference. Wink

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May 31, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
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How then can you also say that holding won’t get people anything? So how were people who got their money in a big way through cryptocurrency 2017 did it? Isn’t it by holding? I know trading pays too, but still cannot be as much as holding would give.
No it is not holding. It is selling.

If you dont sell you dont book any profit for yourself. What you do if get euphoria for seeing huge prices and thinking what profit you would have got by selling the held coins but you are actually just dreaming and cant let go of your coins for a few days. If you would sell at the tip and hold the cash for the dip and buy the dip you would actually multiply your held amount. But who cares about selling and buying back anyway? Grin

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June 03, 2019, 06:06:40 AM
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How then can you also say that holding won’t get people anything? So how were people who got their money in a big way through cryptocurrency 2017 did it? Isn’t it by holding? I know trading pays too, but still cannot be as much as holding would give.
No it is not holding. It is selling.

If you dont sell you dont book any profit for yourself. What you do if get euphoria for seeing huge prices and thinking what profit you would have got by selling the held coins but you are actually just dreaming and cant let go of your coins for a few days. If you would sell at the tip and hold the cash for the dip and buy the dip you would actually multiply your held amount. But who cares about selling and buying back anyway? Grin
I LOL, I care mate, I have been engaged in this type of strategy for a while now since I started studying the movement of BTC, and I think it is lot more profitable when you sell at high and buy back at dip. You can do the calculation yourself.

I have 1 usd in a trading account which I sold recently when BTC was @$8700, now I have used that $8700 now to buy when the price dropped to $8200 yesterday, has that not increased my holding already, this is how I have managed to build my portfolio up to 1BTC and if this strategy continues, I will build it higher than that before the next bull run, but I don’t advise everyone to do that because it is lot riskier.
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June 05, 2019, 04:51:25 AM
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I LOL, I care mate, I have been engaged in this type of strategy for a while now since I started studying the movement of BTC, and I think it is lot more profitable when you sell at high and buy back at dip. You can do the calculation yourself.
It was actually a sarcasm to point out the stubborn nature of some traders who never sell at any point but keep on holding through bull runs.

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I will build it higher than that before the next bull run, but I don’t advise everyone to do that because it is lot riskier.
Obviously few people have actually been able to go through that cruise and end up with a profit but it is one of the best. I wont say its risky, but a logical one. Risk is there in any trading. But what you can also do is when prices seem to move in the same direction, try to make multiple buy/sells. Track one order to another opposite side order for the future. That way you would not be losing out on a certain market movement. But it can become frustrating to keep track of all the trades.

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June 05, 2019, 07:19:19 AM
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The most patient receive the most beneficial gifts from life. I did not hear that the holders were called greedy, it seems to me that they say because of envy that they had enough patience.
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June 05, 2019, 08:18:51 AM
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The most patient receive the most beneficial gifts from life. I did not hear that the holders were called greedy, it seems to me that they say because of envy that they had enough patience.

Patience is needed especially for those of us who are in a minus condition on profit. Patience and the ability to analyze price movements will be very helpful in our trading habits.

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