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May 16, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
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The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.

The above is not proof they are the same person

It's not even just the address, but the fact that 8 transactions occurred in one day (2019-04-20) for 2 hours.
Coincidences happen of course, but it's too much of a coincidence.


That address have 100 BTC, I doubt sig spammer can have 100 BTC in their balance. QuickSeller is correct here although I too think they are alt.
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May 16, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
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The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.
I am using coinpayment as a Segwit address and I post it publicly who want create simply segwit address. Not sure what wallet used by TalkStar.  I am using coinpayment due to easy method.
What exactly is that address? Is it a CoinPayment deposit address to your wallet or something like this? (Where did you get it and why you made several transactions to it?)

That's the key question.

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May 16, 2019, 05:55:42 PM
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May 16, 2019, 05:57:46 PM
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No mate, anyone can claim anything. For that, we can't red tag them. It will be unfair.

Just to be clear; I was not threatening to red-tag the OP myself, but many DT2 members might tag him for merely presenting unfounded allegations.  I personally would't tag the user unless I felt his allegations reached the point of defamation.


I do not want to blame anyone prematurely, but all it looks very bad:

That blockchain connection does look compelling at first blush, but I think the two could be using the same exchange.
 

The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.

The above is not proof they are the same person

That's what I was thinking.  How do you know the address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus belongs to CoinPayments.com?

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May 16, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
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The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.
I am using coinpayment as a Segwit address and I post it publicly who want create simply segwit address. Not sure what wallet used by TalkStar.  I am using coinpayment due to easy method.
What exactly is that address? Is it a CoinPayment deposit address to your wallet or something like this? (Where did you get it and why you made several transactions to it?)

That's the key question.

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No idea about this address (39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus), my deposit address is 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT, this is coinpayment wallet address and its using on Bitblender campaign.

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May 16, 2019, 06:01:37 PM
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The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.
I am using coinpayment as a Segwit address and I post it publicly who want create simply segwit address. Not sure what wallet used by TalkStar.  I am using coinpayment due to easy method.
What exactly is that address? Is it a CoinPayment deposit address to your wallet or something like this? (Where did you get it and why you made several transactions to it?)

That's the key question.

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That's what I was thinking.  How do you know the address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus belongs to CoinPayments.comnet?

FYP.



this is a coinpayment address



https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/CoinPayments.net?from_address=39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus

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May 16, 2019, 06:02:13 PM
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No idea about this address (39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus), my deposit address is 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT, this is coinpayment wallet address and its using on Bitblender campaign.
Ah, I see.

Your deposit address to CoinPayments is 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT.
TalkStar's deposit address to CoinPayments is 3AAkkH2X26oVdmZBZHJJnWqJw6t2L3AW1t.

Since they are both owned by CoinPayments, they share the same pool (along with the 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus address which is also owned by CoinPayments) and keep sending coins to each other (as any service/exchange usually do).

TLDR: Both of them use CoinPayments, which in no way means they are the same person. Nothing to see here.

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May 16, 2019, 06:04:12 PM
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The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.

The above is not proof they are the same person
Thank you.
Does all the deposit goes to one address in coinpayment?
I have no idea how they handle their wallet. I would presume they send a percentage of deposits to that address so to help link their addresses together so they receive less inquiries from governments asking if xx address belongs to them.

The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.

The above is not proof they are the same person

It's not even just the address, but the fact that 8 transactions occurred in one day (2019-04-20) for 2 hours.
Coincidences happen of course, but it's too much of a coincidence.


They are customers and have no control over when their deposits are spent.



The address 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus and the other two addresses all belong to CoinPayments.com. I am guessing the other two addresses are deposit addresses.
I am using coinpayment as a Segwit address and I post it publicly who want create simply segwit address. Not sure what wallet used by TalkStar.  I am using coinpayment due to easy method.
What exactly is that address? Is it a CoinPayment deposit address to your wallet or something like this? (Where did you get it and why you made several transactions to it?)

That's the key question.

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All of the addresses in question belongs to coin payment. The transactions are internal wallet movements.

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May 16, 2019, 06:25:41 PM
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All of the addresses in question belongs to coin payment. The transactions are internal wallet movements.

And when the internal movements is the write-off of BTC from the wallet balance?

Address:   36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT
(https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT)

Total Received    0.15 BTC    
Final Balance    0.12 BTC

DEPOSITS: 10 Transactions
WITHDRAWALS: 2 Transactions

2019-04-20 15:36:47
From 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT to 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus
-0.015BTC - Coolcryptovator

2019-04-20 17:09:30
From 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT to 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus
-0.015BTC - Coolcryptovator

Input 0.015BTC x 10 = 0.15 BTC
Output 0.015BTC x 2 = 0.03 BTC
Final Balance    0.12 BTC

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May 16, 2019, 06:27:43 PM
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All of the addresses in question belongs to coin payment. The transactions are internal wallet movements.

And when the internal motion is the write-off of BTC from the wallet balance?

Address:   36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT
(https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT)

Total Received    0.15 BTC    
Final Balance    0.12 BTC

DEPOSITS: 10 Transactions
WITHDRAWALS: 2 Transactions

2019-04-20 15:36:47
From 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT to 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus
-0.015BTC - Coolcryptovator

2019-04-20 17:09:30
From 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT to 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus
-0.015BTC - Coolcryptovator

0.015BTC x 10 = 0.15 BTC
0.015BTC x 2 = 0.03 BTC
Final Balance    0.12 BTC


2 inputs were spent from 10 inputs. This don't prove anything.
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May 16, 2019, 06:32:29 PM
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All of the addresses in question belongs to coin payment. The transactions are internal wallet movements.

And when the internal motion is the write-off of BTC from the wallet balance?

Address:   36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT
(https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT)

Total Received    0.15 BTC    
Final Balance    0.12 BTC

DEPOSITS: 10 Transactions
WITHDRAWALS: 2 Transactions

2019-04-20 15:36:47
From 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT to 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus
-0.015BTC - Coolcryptovator

2019-04-20 17:09:30
From 36mGjdfFuBrWVR7QDPfPwWSmJGpQcmkUiT to 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus
-0.015BTC - Coolcryptovator

0.015BTC x 10 = 0.15 BTC
0.015BTC x 2 = 0.03 BTC
Final Balance    0.12 BTC


The private keys are controlled entirely by coin payment. I have no idea what their strategy is in regards to how they structure their transactions. They move money from their deposit addresses without the input from customers.

None of the transactions have anything to do with either person.

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Chuck them both in the lake. If they drown, they weren't witches after all.

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Go and look at the 39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus address here: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/39znAZoRfKgtm2fs4fpdGYix655GYhfBus

It has huge transactions going in and out on a near hourly basis. It has handled almost 13,000 BTC. Picking one of the transactions that the 3AAkkH2X26oVdmZBZHJJnWqJw6t2L3AW1t address was involved in and examining it more closely (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/472a5efe8e6ab4f9e1112975fdd668940c466aec90d8b5d0c5c2d2c4136d0783), it has 200 inputs. It's quite clear that this is a main hot wallet for CoinPayments, and they batch transact all payments from customers' deposit addresses to it periodically. If this is your only proof for these accounts being alts, you could include all the other thousands of users who have ever used CoinPayments.



Chuck them both in the lake. If they drown, they weren't witches after all.
I would suggest weighing them against a duck instead. The paperwork to gain approval from the Ethical Review Board is much simpler that way.

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May 16, 2019, 08:12:16 PM
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cut the act buddy, your exposed.
Noticed from beginning you have tried to harass me. Seems you have left me false negative feedback in my profile. For your info, you feedback is untrusted for me and I am not going to left retaliatory feedback for you. Since I don't trust your feedback, I have added you on my exclusion list. On the other hand I have added TalkStar on my inclusion list since I trust his feedback's. May be it will help you collect strong evidence to prove my alts account Grin.

By the way, It's true I like talkstar and few other members who are helping forum exposing scams or by some other ways. Also I like to help them rank up their account by my own smerit, I just become merit source yesterday and I will help them continuously. If you think they are all my alts then you can think. The drama of bitcointalk will never end. Keep try, but don't spam without evidence.  

I surprised how few stupid tried to prove connected account by BTC address, wondering really they have minimum knowledge about btc address or blockchain? If address story true then all Bitblender account connected including Hhampuz Wink

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calm your ass down i removed it
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May 17, 2019, 02:22:50 PM
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calm your ass down i removed it
By removing your negative feedback's you have proved that you were wrong, I like it by the way. You know very well, merit transaction, btc transaction, feedback's isn't sufficient evidence to prove alt account. OP start the thread with ZERO evidence and few user try to prove with wrong information who don't have minimum blockchain knowledge. I though only I am inexperienced about blockchain, but seems many other is there but they think they are smart.

However, end of story I want say there many genius user, but unfortunately their knowledge not using for forum goodness. But they are busy with bashing other people's behind of shockpopet. How its decent posting alt accusation with own alt account. I always said, use your original account if you are legit. I am not going to tag anyone for claim alt account. But everyone should try to gather at least minimum evidence.


OP keep this thread open, who know perhaps someone would collect evidence so they could post here  Wink

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