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2020 Edit: The commission for PvP bets has been removed, making their effective house edge zero. We've also added some exciting new game modes & features, like instant crash (based on bustabit) and a time-locked vault.


Announcing the beta release of flashflip

Hey everyone, my name is Jason and I'm the owner of flashflip. Together with my partner VarFC, who is the head coder of flashflip, we're proud to bring you a cryptocurrency gambling experience that is unparalleled. flashflip allows you to enjoy your gambling experience from the comfort of a Discord server via the use of our Discord bot. There is no need for you to use an external site for any part of the gambling experience, be it depositing, withdrawing, investing, or the actual gaming.

Game mechanics

Currently, there are two game modes available: coinflip, and rock-paper-scissors (RPS). In coinflip, users can place a bet on either heads or tails. If the bet resolves in their favour, they receive 198% of their bet back, and if it doesn't, they lose their bet. The same applies for RPS, except there's the possibility of tying with the bot. In that case, the bet is returned in full. The current house edge of both of these games is 1% and is not set to change in the foreseeable future. The maximum win is 1% of the current bankroll.

All games against the bot are provably fair. To generate each result, the bot's daily server seed is used in conjunction with the user's set client seed. The user can set a custom client seed at any time. Every day, the bot automatically reveals the previous day's server seed, which can be used to verify rolls. To ensure that the rolls are fair, one would run the hmac code snippet using their client seed, nonce, and that day's server seed for more than one roll. This is easily available in the form of a verification command built into the bot, and the script can also be run locally.

flashflip can also be used to be play PvP games with your friends! The coinflip and RPS games are available to be played between two players who agree to the game and have an available balance. For RPS, they can DM their choice to the bot, and the winner will be paid out 199.5% of their bet, with 0.5% moving out of the bets as a bot commission fee. Thus, the house edge for PvP games can be considered to be 0.25%.

Investing mechanics

The bankroll of flashflip is available for public investment with a simple invest command. If you invest in the bankroll, that means you receive a stake in it, and you receive a proportion of all player losses. You also have to payout a share of all players wins. There is a 0.25% bot commission that is taken from the investors for each wager. This means that the expected profit for investments can be considered to be +0.75% per wager made. There is also a dilution fee of 2% applied to all new investments that is given to old investors with no bot commission. This is for two purposes: to ensure that old investors are not diluted away unfairly, and to reward long-term investors. We would like to credit bustabit for the investment mechanics, as the bankroll model is based on it entirely.

Our principles

We believe in complete transparency for users at all times. All tokens in the flashflip bot are backed 1:1 by real bitcoins. Investors can, at any point, request a signed message in order to verify holdings, and it will be promptly provided. We also guarantee that all withdrawals of user balances made from the bot will be processed instantly and without delay. Regardless of withdrawal amounts, we will never force users to give away any of their information for any purpose whatsoever. If we are made aware of a player that is underage or of a player that is gambling illegally, their balance will be frozen at that period in time and they will be unable to play further: but their balance will not be confiscated, and they will be able to withdraw as per normal at any time.

Miscellaneous features

flashflip can also be used as a general cryptocurrency tipping bot for bitcoin. Due to the limited selection of currencies available in flashflip, we recommend a different solution for tipbots. We plan to integrate multi-server support very shortly, along with a myriad of other exciting features.

Official team

Owner and Founder - JasonFC (563158752442974218)
Head Coder and Operator - Var (567327713287864321)

Official server link

https://discord.gg/eeeXrzt

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May 18, 2019, 02:54:38 AM
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Wow this is new to me I never thought that there would be such gambling in discord,
But I think it would always be possible after all they already made some gambling channel in telegram .
But I think this wouldn't really be attractive to a gambler unless the gambler wants to hide his gambling habits to their partner.

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May 18, 2019, 03:12:22 AM
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Sounds exciting and it's good to know that you offer faster service withdrawal which is the major demand of players.
It's also a great thing that you offer Pvp games so we're able to play games with our pals.
I'm pleased to hear more about flashflip's games and services in the future.
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May 18, 2019, 03:33:07 AM
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This is an improvement, I always saw discord as a dull social media platforms and I never gain interest in registering but if this project goes well I think it would be good for discord users and those that's going to join in latter. Just hope it's not going to be another scam in this series of scam related drama
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May 18, 2019, 03:50:27 AM
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This is an improvement, I always saw discord as a dull social media platforms and I never gain interest in registering but if this project goes well I think it would be good for discord users and those that's going to join in latter. Just hope it's not going to be another scam in this series of scam related drama


I agree with you. I have never thought that discord would also be involved in gambling projects like this. The collaboration would be more effective if the project itself would focus on providing good services such as entertainment which players could gain both profit and satisfaction.

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May 18, 2019, 04:04:30 AM
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This is an improvement, I always saw discord as a dull social media platforms and I never gain interest in registering but if this project goes well I think it would be good for discord users and those that's going to join in latter. Just hope it's not going to be another scam in this series of scam related drama
Well it is  time to make it lively by doing some great things like this .
I am not a fan or user of Discord but it is good to see that more and more platform are being used for gambling and it is improving the crypto industry.
It could attract new discord user to play this game and I hope next time you could add more games.

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May 18, 2019, 04:38:28 AM
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Wow this is new to me I never thought that there would be such gambling in discord,
But I think it would always be possible after all they already made some gambling channel in telegram .
But I think this wouldn't really be attractive to a gambler unless the gambler wants to hide his gambling habits to their partner.

I will be interested to see how it works in a discord channel ? and its worth joining. I have heard about gambling through telegram channels but never experienced it through the discord. Also i hope our identity is not revealed through these channels.
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Can you explain how the Provably fair works? Because this is the first gambling project that run from discord
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Wow this is new to me I never thought that there would be such gambling in discord,
But I think it would always be possible after all they already made some gambling channel in telegram .
But I think this wouldn't really be attractive to a gambler unless the gambler wants to hide his gambling habits to their partner.

I will be interested to see how it works in a discord channel ? and its worth joining. I have heard about gambling through telegram channels but never experienced it through the discord. Also i hope our identity is not revealed through these channels.
Now that you mention it I also wonder how they would operate on hiding our identity ,
Maybe they would let us set up our name on their discord channel I didn't try it yet but I would like to test it soon.
Maybe there would be other member from this forum who would enlighten us about how things work on the discord channel.

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Wow this is new to me I never thought that there would be such gambling in discord,
But I think it would always be possible after all they already made some gambling channel in telegram .
But I think this wouldn't really be attractive to a gambler unless the gambler wants to hide his gambling habits to their partner.

I will be interested to see how it works in a discord channel ? and its worth joining. I have heard about gambling through telegram channels but never experienced it through the discord. Also i hope our identity is not revealed through these channels.

You can register for a Discord account totally anonymously. All you need is an email address, unlike Telegram, which I believe requires registration of your mobile number. Unlike other gambling sites or media, flashflip is unable to store information about users such as IP addresses or MAC addresses, making for an overall safer gambling experience in terms of user privacy.

Can you explain how the Provably fair works? Because this is the first gambling project that run from discord

Sure thing. Each game result is generated by combining a server seed with a custom client seed, and traversing to the user's given nonce. There is only one server seed per day for users, and it is revealed at the end of each day. Here is the code you can use for verifying game results:

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def provabilitySeed(dailySecret,clientSecret,nonce):

    clientSecretAndNonce = clientSecret+"-"+str(nonce)

    hmacOutput = hmac.new(dailySecret.encode('utf8'), clientSecretAndNonce.encode('utf8'), hashlib.sha512).hexdigest()
    return(hmacOutput)

This can be used to verify that from the beginning to the end of the day, the server seed was the same for all rolls and all clients, thus proving that it was entirely predetermined. If the bot were to change server seeds mid-session, then the server seed would match for some rolls but not all of them. You can use the "!verify" command in the bot to check a roll whenever you feel like. I will be more than happy to provide a further explanation of the process of independently verifying roles via Discord DM, if you need further assistance. In my opinion, this is the most important aspect of the game.

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May 18, 2019, 06:43:07 AM
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Does flashflip really based on discord? or just using the discord as your server and the discord bot?. Actually, even if flashflip is the first gambling built right into discord but for me it's not new that gambling is built right into discord. I think this is the second time I found or know that a gambling site using social media platform for gambling. The first gambling site I found that they are using telegram for their gambling just like using discord. I have a question to ask, how will gamblers play with your gambling games as I only see the Official Server Link and I'm also wondering if flashflip is still on progress of finishing the site or still on beta testing. My opinion about PvP Gambling is very challenging you will also learn on how to keep your hand strong or avoiding making your hand weak when you gamble.

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May 18, 2019, 07:01:17 AM
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Does flashflip really based on discord? or just using the discord as your server and the discord bot?. Actually, even if flashflip is the first gambling built right into discord but for me it's not new that gambling is built right into discord. I think this is the second time I found or know that a gambling site using social media platform for gambling. The first gambling site I found that they are using telegram for their gambling just like using discord. I have a question to ask, how will gamblers play with your gambling games as I only see the Official Server Link and I'm also wondering if flashflip is still on progress of finishing the site or still on beta testing. My opinion about PvP Gambling is very challenging you will also learn on how to keep your hand strong or avoiding making your hand weak when you gamble.

flashflip is a Discord bot, and players can use it to gamble right from Discord itself. It's certainly not a new concept, but the idea of social gambling along with the provably fair and investment system is something you don't see very often. Currently, you can play with flashflip by joining the server and heading to any of the games channels. It's not a website. We plan to integrate multi-server support soon, so any server owner will be able to add flashflip to their own servers! At the moment, it's restricted to one authorized server.

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May 18, 2019, 07:13:30 AM
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This is sound new to me by the way what is the advantages of playing gambling of Discord vs on regular gambling site?
You already have a 64 member on Discord do you plan to make a promotion on this forum site like free giveaway on the community?
Do you use Discord as a server? while researching on google I saw this concept is not totally new but good job for providing us this services.

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Sure thing. Each game result is generated by combining a server seed with a custom client seed, and traversing to the user's given nonce.

so about the client seed how to submit it into the bot?



btw i saw your older project which is flashcrash can you tell or update the process from that project?
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This is sound new to me by the way what is the advantages of playing gambling of Discord vs on regular gambling site?
You already have a 64 member on Discord do you plan to make a promotion on this forum site like free giveaway on the community?
Do you use Discord as a server? while researching on google I saw this concept is not totally new but good job for providing us this services.

The concept of bitcoin gambling itself is quite old. There are very few sites out there that provide provably fair, low house edge gambling with truly instant withdrawals, and we aim to become one of the Discord bots to achieve the same thing. The rock-paper-scissors game mode is also brand new: something unique to flashflip. Also, you can play with your friends in your own servers, something quite revolutionary.


Sure thing. Each game result is generated by combining a server seed with a custom client seed, and traversing to the user's given nonce.

so about the client seed how to submit it into the bot?



btw i saw your older project which is flashcrash can you tell or update the process from that project?

The client seed can be updated by using the "!seed" command at any time. It's super easy. As for flashcrash, slated release is sometime in June.

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Interesting concept. I was very active in Discord channels in the past, and I know a lot of newer coins also did Discord giveaways and airdrops, mainly through games, but to be able to gamble also sounds like new stuff is really being developed for the platform.

Most important for crypto people in gambling is provably fair and house edge. So it is really great that you have this system, but in my experience almost nobody checks if it really is true;)

What are these house edge with flashflip?

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May 18, 2019, 12:13:21 PM
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Interesting concept. I was very active in Discord channels in the past, and I know a lot of newer coins also did Discord giveaways and airdrops, mainly through games, but to be able to gamble also sounds like new stuff is really being developed for the platform.

Most important for crypto people in gambling is provably fair and house edge. So it is really great that you have this system, but in my experience almost nobody checks if it really is true;)

What are these house edge with flashflip?

The house edge for all vs bot games is 1%. I've explained the provably fair system before. Unlike other sites, where you win if the game is "green" and you lose if the game is "red", on flashflip, players can decide which outcome they want to bet on (heads or tails, etc.), and thus there is no advantage for us in changing the occurrence of certain results, since players will just switch to those instead. The house edge manifests itself in the amount returned to the player on a win, which is 98% of their bet on a 50/50 odds game. For every 200 bits wagered, players have an expected return of 198 bits, thus a 1% house edge.


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May 18, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
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A new site,  a new game. It's always interesting to discover new things.
By the way i have some questions that is revolving around my mind.
First of all why you choose discord. That's the main thing revolving around me.
Secondly why only a PvP game?
I know it's the most loved one,  but still why?
Moreover it will be a new experience for me to play on discord.
Feeling excited to try the game.

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May 18, 2019, 03:24:58 PM
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The maximum win is 1% of the current bankroll.

Note: This thread will be self-moderated to prevent advertising and spam.
It's always nice to see new gambling opportunities. Rock, paper, scissors is not a common game on the market, but a very famous one, and it's good to have it in digital version.
I just wanted to ask about the winnings. You are saying it's 1% of the current bankroll, but how much is the bankroll? Is the bet amount limited appropriately, so that in case of winning a gambler definitely receives the whole sum?
I also wanted to make a small remark about self-moderation: sometimes people get suspicious about announcement threads being self-moderated, because there is a risk the op will delete any negative reviews or comments even if they are relevant.

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May 18, 2019, 03:32:09 PM
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To be honest I do not really like gambling that based on social media platform like Telegram and Discord, I'm not quite sure why but I feel that gamble through website is more comfortable. No offenses, but I'll take a look at your game first. If it is worth enough to play then I can spend my time on the discord to play your game.

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