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May 20, 2019, 05:31:06 PM
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There were a lot of money drowned in Africa and not much has changed. I think that the most basic reason why they are underdeveloped is lack of education and the overall low IQ in these region. Think about it. It doesn't matter how much money you'll give to an idiot, he'll lose it anyway and eventually be poor again.
Not all of Africa is poor and not all Africans are poor. It's just that there's more dumb and lazy people there than in other parts of the world.

"Not much has changed"

This is just in the last 70 years.

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fcountcarbon%2Fstatus%2F1126055688180989952&widget=Tweet

Unless you count children surviving to be "not much"
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May 21, 2019, 12:04:00 AM
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Africans are not poor as perceived by majority people in the world. The continent of Africa is blessed with alot of resources but I think the problem is effective utilization of these resources which are abundant in their natural state. Poor leadership and a sense of direction has made people think Africans are poor.

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May 21, 2019, 12:16:46 AM
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I think Africans are being helped to much... not too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DySciepA3yU

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May 21, 2019, 12:48:13 AM
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There were a lot of money drowned in Africa and not much has changed. I think that the most basic reason why they are underdeveloped is lack of education and the overall low IQ in these region. Think about it. It doesn't matter how much money you'll give to an idiot, he'll lose it anyway and eventually be poor again.
Not all of Africa is poor and not all Africans are poor. It's just that there's more dumb and lazy people there than in other parts of the world.

"Not much has changed"

This is just in the last 70 years.

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fcountcarbon%2Fstatus%2F1126055688180989952&widget=Tweet

Unless you count children surviving to be "not much"

isnt high child mortality and small life span integral parts of islamic and tribal and even christian lifestyle?


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May 21, 2019, 12:57:01 PM
Last edit: May 21, 2019, 01:12:53 PM by coolcoinz
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There is a racist post

What is racist about stating the truth? I invite you to check the IQ statistics per country.
These days when you say something uncomfortable you're automatically labelled. Stating that Jews have significant influence over international media and banking, which is true, will make them call you an anti-semite. Saying that the average African is not as smart as the average European is racist, and so on. Suddenly when I say that a penis of an average african is longer than the one of the average european it's all fine. When I state that black men are usually taller and stronger than asians it's all fine, but when you say that asians are smarter than blacks you're suddenly racist.

"Not much has changed"

This is just in the last 70 years.

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fcountcarbon%2Fstatus%2F1126055688180989952&widget=Tweet

Unless you count children surviving to be "not much"

Should we be concerned? The mortality was being taken into account in these regions and for that reason an average woman in Nigeria has 5 children while an average woman in Europe has less than 2. We should rather ask why they're conceiving 5 or 6 children if they barely can feed one. A smart parent thinks about these things, a dumb parent doesn't care.

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May 22, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
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Should we be concerned? The mortality was being taken into account in these regions and for that reason an average woman in Nigeria has 5 children while an average woman in Europe has less than 2. We should rather ask why they're conceiving 5 or 6 children if they barely can feed one. A smart parent thinks about these things, a dumb parent doesn't care.

I think left to their own, this is how animals react to such environment. More offspring more chances some will survive into adulthood. This was also the case in Europe before and to some extent in the Asia-Pacific.

As standards of living go up, birthrate goes down since you are now expected to send those kids to college, you can't easily evade tax anymore if you earn enough money to send them to college, etc. Despite relaxing the One Child Policy, the CCP found out that people are just not that excited to have enough kids to keep their population above replacement level.
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May 22, 2019, 05:21:16 PM
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Africans are not poor as perceived by majority people in the world. The continent of Africa is blessed with alot of resources but I think the problem is effective utilization of these resources which are abundant in their natural state. Poor leadership and a sense of direction has made people think Africans are poor.

I’d have to agree here. There is a massive corruption problem in Africa, the people in government who are corrupt are insanely wealthy from being corrupt.

Foreign aid also is just diverted to government corruption as well




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May 23, 2019, 12:26:10 PM
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Africans are not poor as perceived by majority people in the world. The continent of Africa is blessed with alot of resources but I think the problem is effective utilization of these resources which are abundant in their natural state. Poor leadership and a sense of direction has made people think Africans are poor.

I’d have to agree here. There is a massive corruption problem in Africa, the people in government who are corrupt are insanely wealthy from being corrupt.

Foreign aid also is just diverted to government corruption as well
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governments and corporations everywhere in the world where and are and will stay corrupt, except you create an algorytmic robot government

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May 23, 2019, 05:36:13 PM
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Africans are not poor as perceived by majority people in the world. The continent of Africa is blessed with alot of resources but I think the problem is effective utilization of these resources which are abundant in their natural state. Poor leadership and a sense of direction has made people think Africans are poor.

I’d have to agree here. There is a massive corruption problem in Africa, the people in government who are corrupt are insanely wealthy from being corrupt.

Foreign aid also is just diverted to government corruption as well

Foreign aid allows the smallfolk to survive just enough to not rebel but still not enough to empower them. Not to mention it frees up more money for the government to loot. If all aid is cutoff the government would have to provide more basic care lest the people rebel. If they keep stealing and let the people starve, well you know what they say about grumbling bellies.

The French Revolution was in part due to famine. These countries just need their Bastille moment AND have them resolve it themselves without foreign intervention.

Good luck with that though.
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May 23, 2019, 05:54:17 PM
Last edit: May 23, 2019, 06:13:51 PM by eddie13
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Why do people think governments are magic and can just "take care of" people and all sorts of things?

Screw the government, take care of your damn self, quit appealing to a government to take care of you..

If you want a government, it is up to the people to take care of the government, not the other way around..
If the people don't take care of the government then the government cant take care of anything and will just cause more problems..

Take care of yourself, then when you get that down you can think about taking care of a government next.. If the people can't even take care of themselves then how in the hell are they supposed to take care of a government?

If the people want foreign aid because they can't take care of themselves, then they should also want us to run their government for them so you know, maybe it will work..


As far as wealth, "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush"..
All the gold in the world in the ground isn't worth squat unless you can figure out how to get it out and turn it into something profitable, or coal, lithium, oil, whatever you have in the ground.
Go get that shit out of the ground and take care of yourselves, or do you need us to do that for you too?
Oh no, that would be "robbing" africa to profitably help them extract their resources right? We ain't doing that shit for free..
No way I am going to go half way around the world to some violent shithole where I might get killed by a horde of savages to help them extract their resources for free.. Maybe for $100k in my pocket per 8 month tour working on hostile foreign wellpads, or I ain't doing it..
You have the internet, figure it out..

Want Halliburton or Schlumberger to come provide equiptment, show you how, and get you set up?
Do you realize what that equiptment costs? Do you realize how much it cost them to gain the knowledge to do it? This stuff costs massive amounts of money few can wrap their heads around and very hard long dangerous work from employees few men have ever experienced..
We are going to make serious money doing it or we aren't going to do it..
If you think that is stealing then you just don't think and your shit will stay right in the ground..

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May 24, 2019, 03:31:33 PM
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I think Africans are being helped to much... not too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DySciepA3yU

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I really do not understand what you mean sir. I see that in the media the propaganda about the poverty and the state of helplessness of Africa citizens are too high but I believe Africa are rich people just that their riches is been taken to the developed countries that claim to help them.
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May 24, 2019, 03:40:58 PM
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I think Africans are being helped to much... not too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DySciepA3yU

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I really do not understand what you mean sir. I see that in the media the propaganda about the poverty and the state of helplessness of Africa citizens are too high but I believe Africa are rich people just that their riches is been taken to the developed countries that claim to help them.

thats not true, in reality africa has to beg the so called "developed markets" to be allowed to sell them something,

if the developed countries would focus on ressource extraction from russia canada and artic there would be wilderness again in africa and no one would live there anymore.

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May 24, 2019, 06:45:53 PM
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The root cause of 99% of the issues that the Africans face today is the uncontrolled population explosion. People are afraid to say this truth, because they will be branded as racists. The Africans need more IUDs and condoms. Sending food aid is not a permanent solution. Are we going to send the food aid (in increasing amounts every year) for the next 1,000 years?

I totally agree, if these people are hungry now, why do they breed a lot? Helping them with food or money will not solve this problem. If they don't want to be hungry, they have to use condom.

they breed because they are agicultural soviety their children are the workforce on their farms, thats a doom cycle that breaks together every 30 years.

It is not true. Why don't agricultural countries like Macedonia make as many children as Africans? The people of many countries around the world have been making money by farming, but only Africans are breeding too much. Because underdeveloped countries have been trying to gain superiority by multiplying their populations. Therefore, I find it absurd that European countries donate food and money to Africans or Arabs. People who is living in these countries must be educated by governments about birth control and deal with problem themselves.
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May 24, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
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Corporations don't want goal isn't to lift Africans out of poverty, they love how their cheap labor brings them a large amount of profit.  Its really sad but this a dog eat dog world, you have to be skeptical of the charities that supposedly help AFrica as well.  A lot of these charities use most of their budget to fund their own high salaries.
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May 25, 2019, 07:17:56 PM
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One major problem africa faces are economic policies from industry nations, especially recarding agriculture.

In the last few decades africas agriculture economy was basically wiped from the map via imports of subsidized agriculture products from the EU and the USA.

Its impossible for them to compete with cheap products from europe and the us which are getting subsidies.

This lead to massive unemployment because majority of africans were working in - you guess it - agriculture.

Today we can see the results of this in the amounts of refugees and immigrants from africa.


This is total bullshit and widely known, but no changes are made because the agriculture lobby has enourmous power and billions of $ are on the stake.


Give a man a fish and he has food for 1 day.

Give a man a fishing rod and he can feed himself until he dies.

Just in this case we are giving the man a broken fishing rod which is also poisoned with toxic materials.

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May 28, 2019, 06:42:51 PM
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Corporations don't want goal isn't to lift Africans out of poverty, they love how their cheap labor brings them a large amount of profit.  Its really sad but this a dog eat dog world, you have to be skeptical of the charities that supposedly help AFrica as well.  A lot of these charities use most of their budget to fund their own high salaries.

Indeed. But now, they try to focus more in Africa in order to show socially responsible.
The money that they spend for African regions are nothing compared to the profits that they earn. They just do it for their image and their social responsibility strategy.
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May 28, 2019, 06:52:10 PM
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The root cause of 99% of the issues that the Africans face today is the uncontrolled population explosion. People are afraid to say this truth, because they will be branded as racists. The Africans need more IUDs and condoms. Sending food aid is not a permanent solution. Are we going to send the food aid (in increasing amounts every year) for the next 1,000 years?

I totally agree, if these people are hungry now, why do they breed a lot? Helping them with food or money will not solve this problem. If they don't want to be hungry, they have to use condom.

they breed because they are agicultural soviety their children are the workforce on their farms, thats a doom cycle that breaks together every 30 years.

It is not true. Why don't agricultural countries like Macedonia make as many children as Africans? The people of many countries around the world have been making money by farming, but only Africans are breeding too much. Because underdeveloped countries have been trying to gain superiority by multiplying their populations. Therefore, I find it absurd that European countries donate food and money to Africans or Arabs. People who is living in these countries must be educated by governments about birth control and deal with problem themselves.

because macedonians arent agricultural

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May 28, 2019, 07:20:19 PM
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Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.

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May 28, 2019, 08:51:45 PM
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Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.


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May 29, 2019, 03:36:06 PM
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Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

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