@THEYMOS Abusive group punished DT1 for speaking up against them

[El duderino_]

Boys whatever you saying....... LFC is a golden asset to this forum and community, please do respect a fellow member/BTC-HODLer

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Also exposing a PM in hope to embarrass somebody or for whatever reason is something you don't do ....

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[LFC_Bitcoin]

Boys whatever you saying....... LFC is a golden asset to this forum and community, please do respect a fellow member/BTC-HODLer

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Thanks mic, means a lot. Finding out I have a lot of people who care about me tonight

[El duderino_]

Boys whatever you saying....... LFC is a golden asset to this forum and community, please do respect a fellow member/BTC-HODLer

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Thanks mic, means a lot. Finding out I have a lot of people who care about me tonight

Boy, you just know your one of the members I truly like the most around here

[The-One-Above-All]

Can someone please help that sniveling ass feltching bitch  LFC bitcoin understand that he should not have just done what lauda said at all.

 He should have told lauda to fuck off you manipulative eastern euro gutter trash I will not do what you are instructing me to do, NOT I will do what I am ordered against my will because I'm a fucking slobbering sniveling wretch who will do anything to spam for bucks and shit scared to go against you and the other euro trash scum.

This dumb cretin is just making it worse for himself.  He is saying now he is bad because he has a conscience ?? wtf is wrong with this morons brain??  so what you should not have a conscience and just do whatever filthy deeds lauda tells you and it would have all been okay??? wtf is wrong with this fool?
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These people are low functioning, weak, and pathetic trash. Not that this was not obvious at their continual fawning and feltching lauda, tman and other low life trash at every opportunity.

We and our friends have been telling you all since we stumbled into this bunch of bullying scum trying to bully noobs around in meta and rep the entire board seems to have been taken over by scammers and liars we are very familiar with from the alt section from years back. As it unfolded it just seemed more and more unbelievable how widespread their influence was to the point theymos seems to support their actions.

Hhampuz and that other shady scum bag yahoo6293874  whatever are the people that need the greatest focus here. If Theymos refuses to fix these broken systems and insists scammers and liars float around with 300 green trust and are allowed to red trust whistleblowers ,then you need to take the fight to the campaign managers and even the projects themselves. These are far more vulnerable to bad press.

This abusive group of DT1 and their pals who are campaign managers have this entire thing sewn up. It is fucking obvious how it works.

Hhampuz, yahoo69687458  are hiding behind the red tags their scum bag pals slap on people as a reason to exclude them from projects and sigs. Also the "earned merit" garbage metric.

You need to INSIST there is a clear, transparent selection process for all campaign managers. First come first served basis. If anyone is turned away then this needs to be investigated. a/ is their post quality good enough b/ are they a scammer. If there is no reason for them to be turned away then they need to be accepted.

Once this red trust crap means NOTHING and they can not turn people away because they like lemons or decided to present observable instances of a DT's past histories then it will lose it's power and people will not be scared of getting this FAKE red trust and their reign of intimidation will be over.

Theymos cocked this up by giving "them" this power in the first place. If he told them YOU WILL BE BLACKLISTED IF YOU RED TRUST PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT SCAMMERS ....none of this intimidation and crushing of free speech would be happening.  Is there something malfunctioning with theymos? why is he not enforcing this? This dream of a hands off smart decentralized governance on an anonymous forum is IMPOSSIBLE? where is GM or shelby to help him understand this trial and error approach while honest members are slammed as scammers by REAL SCAMMERS is a fucking nightmare scenario for the entire board and the free speech here?

Same with the merit "carrot". That controls paid 2 post ability and rates so again has the same power to a slightly lesser extent.

Decouple it from rank after snr and lower it's significance or remove it from the trust system.

These people are abusing the POWER theymos gave them. The buck stops with him now.  If he will do nothing about it then you need to target the campaign managers and if they are acting untrustworthy then the PROJECT needs to be held accountable for hiring CORRUPT account managers. It is quite simple PROJECTS do not want a ton of threads in REP calling them out for hiring corrupt account managers and  therefore once they have been informed the PROJECT themselves are now going to be untrustworthy and corrupt if they still continue to use them.

Break these campaign managers apart from these euro trash scammers and it will all collapse .... these scammers must have NO POWER over persons abilities to sig spam here EXCEPT if they can prove they are scammers.

Campaign managers are simply using this merit and red trust (both controlled by their scamming pals and their ass lickers) garbage metric as "THEIR REASONS" to accept or deny participants. Bogus and bullshit.

Better still blacklist this untrustworthy scum from the start.

Thule was 100% correct this just makes it even clearer.  

All boils down to the same shit everything does.... it is all about the money, it controls people and their behaviors to the point they think they are wrong to have a conscience and should just do whatever they need to to ensure the best financial return.

Most people on meta are too thick to understand what we have just outlined, so it is likely a waste of our time. However, this latest PM reveal and what the LFC btc is saying about it just demonstrates THULE is 100% correct.

[SaltySpitoon]

I don't see why anyone cares in the slightest about DT feedback or not. Everyone here uses Minerjones for escrow whether you have +1000 or - 9999 as a feedback score.

It feels like the PTA is making threats and people are responding seriously to them.

side note, posting private messages has always been a big no no with the exception of scam accusation proof. I think the MNW blowout was the last time the topic was visited, but it was a mess. Don't really care about Bill buying an account, but posting PMs is far more untrustworthy in my opinion than a lot of things that people get tagged for.

[El duderino_]

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Only read the above line, then the same apply, you don't expose a PM that has been send in "trust" to only reach the eyes of the receiver....

edit: exactly thats what I do think as well and posted before.... A pm is ment to reach only to who gets the message!

[Quickseller]

Here's the thing: BG is an asshole for publishing the PM of a member that sent him a message in confidence. If he is allowed to continue in his sig campaign, which is what this is obviously all about, well that's just not right, given the standards of it set forth.

Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.

Unless the PM was encrypted, I don’t see any expectation of privacy.

If you don’t want anything embarrassing you said in a PM to be published, don’t write anything embarrassing in a PM.

You really don't see a difference between the note by theymos and the issue at hand?

That note is not from theymos. It is standard on all SMF forums.

I have long held that PMs not encrypted are fair game to be disclosed at the option of either party.

It's called PRIVATE PERSONAL message for a reason. Everybody knows that it is a dick move to publicly post PMs.

You should post a screen shot of where it is called *private* message. I’ll give you a thousand dollars if you can provide a verifiable screenshot in the next hour.

Fixed my post, still doesn't change the point.

A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

[El duderino_]

Here's the thing: BG is an asshole for publishing the PM of a member that sent him a message in confidence. If he is allowed to continue in his sig campaign, which is what this is obviously all about, well that's just not right, given the standards of it set forth.

Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.

Unless the PM was encrypted, I don’t see any expectation of privacy.

If you don’t want anything embarrassing you said in a PM to be published, don’t write anything embarrassing in a PM.

You really don't see a difference between the note by theymos and the issue at hand?

That note is not from theymos. It is standard on all SMF forums.

I have long held that PMs not encrypted are fair game to be disclosed at the option of either party.

It's called PRIVATE PERSONAL message for a reason. Everybody knows that it is a dick move to publicly post PMs.

You should post a screen shot of where it is called *private* message. I’ll give you a thousand dollars if you can provide a verifiable screenshot in the next hour.

Fixed my post, still doesn't change the point.

A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

If I would send you or someone a delicate message like where I live or that I have xxxxxxxxBTC or whatsoever ....? Then you don't agree it would be untrustworthy if the receiving party expose such info....?
That says enough for me never dealing with you for stuff

I would hate it if I send something delicate through privnote and the receiving party would post that in a thread....
Hope i'm not wrong in here!
 

[SaltySpitoon]

A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

Thats the forum message about keeping your PMs safe. You could also say that there is nothing saying that when someone extends their arm to shake your hand, you can't spit in your hand before shaking theirs. There are certain things that are expected, such that when you send someone a private message, it is private. You can say whatever you want about there technically being nothing forcing you to obey social mores, but that doesn't mean you are shielded from the fallout of not abiding by them. When you send someone your shipping address, you expect them not to spread it around, but since there is no guarantee of PM privacy I suppose why not?

You are free to your own opinion on the matter, but it feels like a serious breach of trust to me. I'll take a quick scan through the last time there was a 200 page thread on this matter and what the fallout was.

[bill gator]

posting private messages has always been a big no no

I feel like intimidation, trust-abuse and DT-manipulation would be an exceptional case. If there was a way to "Scam DT", what Lauda has been described/caught doing is exactly that.

[suchmoon]

Funny how some people here think that publishing a polite, considerate PM from someone like LFC (or HH) will help them advance their ridiculous conspiracy theories. Seems that the new MO is to attack someone tangential to the whole shitslinging fight and averse to public drama - easier to smear them. Means to an end.

[bill gator]

Seems that the new MO is to attack someone tangential to the whole shitslinging fight and averse to public drama

I thought the whole Vod situation was already over? Oh wait, no shit - you're actually projecting that hard right now!

[TheNewAnon135246]

Here's the thing: BG is an asshole for publishing the PM of a member that sent him a message in confidence. If he is allowed to continue in his sig campaign, which is what this is obviously all about, well that's just not right, given the standards of it set forth.

Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.

Unless the PM was encrypted, I don’t see any expectation of privacy.

If you don’t want anything embarrassing you said in a PM to be published, don’t write anything embarrassing in a PM.

You really don't see a difference between the note by theymos and the issue at hand?

That note is not from theymos. It is standard on all SMF forums.

I have long held that PMs not encrypted are fair game to be disclosed at the option of either party.

It's called PRIVATE PERSONAL message for a reason. Everybody knows that it is a dick move to publicly post PMs.

You should post a screen shot of where it is called *private* message. I’ll give you a thousand dollars if you can provide a verifiable screenshot in the next hour.

Fixed my post, still doesn't change the point.

A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

In that case, would you be so kind to upload all your PMs on Pastebin?

[El duderino_]

Btw, I did said some positive stuff about Bill and his way of doing business towards me and all I was very fair in my previous posts about Bill, I did said to instantly deal with him again, but to attack LFC like this just gave me another Bill to watch @, I really didn't care to much of the account buying cause he was here already before I was even with the bought account......
But LFC was one of the true first members helping me around here inviting me to places when I was a real fresh newbie with 0 knowledge and not much to offre, so F*** I hate when somebody attacking him (just one of the members that really doesn't earn to be threaded that way)

That been said its Thursday, have had a few wines so better stop with writing point is clear, don't go low have some dignity and F*** off from LFC's back!

[SaltySpitoon]

posting private messages has always been a big no no

I feel like intimidation, trust-abuse and DT-manipulation would be an exceptional case. If there was a way to "Scam DT", what Lauda has been described/caught doing is exactly that.

You weren't being intimidated by LFC, if anything LFC was being intimidated by Lauda, so they decided to make the matter private with you. You put a victim's PM out there, not the perpetrator.

[bill gator]

You put a victim's PM out there, not the perpetrator.

I made the "crime" public (to use your analogy), so that there is not another victim, or a continued victim.
If you witness a rape, and the victim doesn't want to speak to the police - do you just walk away?

if anything LFC was being intimidated by Lauda

I never said LFC was intimidating me, and my words being twisted or misconstrued is becoming quite a pattern.
Obviously my point is that Lauda is intimidating people, and operating with a mafia (pardon the cliche) mentality of silence or you'll get whacked isn't helping.

[SaltySpitoon]

I made the "crime" public (to use your analogy), so that there is not another victim, or a continued victim.

I never said LFC was intimidating me, and my words being twisted or misconstrued is becoming quite a pattern.
Obviously my point is that Lauda is intimidating people, and operating with a mafia (pardon the cliche) mentality of silence or you'll get whacked isn't helping.

I didn't claim that LFC was intimidating you, I claimed that Lauda was intimidating LFC, LFC let you know, and you broke a more about trust and private messages. If someone gets scammed, you don't post the scammed person's address to take down the scammer.

[yahoo62278]

Lmao how'd I get dragged into this trash? Lauda nor anyone controls me and if you check the sig campaigns I manage I have none of them in any campaign I manage.


I don't know about Hhampuz and who he hires. I'm not his ol lady so I don't keep tabs on him and his campaigns. You'll have to ask him.

Pressure me all you want, it will get you nowhere. Put my campaigns under a microscope, I'm fine with it.

[Quickseller]

Here's the thing: BG is an asshole for publishing the PM of a member that sent him a message in confidence. If he is allowed to continue in his sig campaign, which is what this is obviously all about, well that's just not right, given the standards of it set forth.

Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.

Unless the PM was encrypted, I don’t see any expectation of privacy.

If you don’t want anything embarrassing you said in a PM to be published, don’t write anything embarrassing in a PM.

You really don't see a difference between the note by theymos and the issue at hand?

That note is not from theymos. It is standard on all SMF forums.

I have long held that PMs not encrypted are fair game to be disclosed at the option of either party.

It's called PRIVATE PERSONAL message for a reason. Everybody knows that it is a dick move to publicly post PMs.

You should post a screen shot of where it is called *private* message. I’ll give you a thousand dollars if you can provide a verifiable screenshot in the next hour.

Fixed my post, still doesn't change the point.

A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

In that case, would you be so kind to upload all your PMs on Pastebin?

No. It is my option to release my own PMs.

[bill gator]

I didn't claim that LFC was intimidating you, I claimed that Lauda was intimidating LFC,

Then we're all on the same page.

If someone gets scammed, you don't post the scammed person's address to take down the scammer.

You also don't keep the scam a secret. I think pretending like what I did is comparable to releasing an address is disingenuous.