@THEYMOS Abusive group punished DT1 for speaking up against them

[bill gator]

Are you saying that you deserve a point, because you edited your post and added that in after I had already responded - now to act as though it has been avoided?
Confused.

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[DireWolfM14]

Out of curiosity, how would one get the consent to investigate a murder?

Lol, you remind me of a manipulative teenager who refuses to take "no" for an answer.

Bill, you keep digging yourself even deeper.  After some private conversations we had, I added you to my trust list.  I was this close to buying a GPU from you and I would have sent the funds to you upfront without a second thought.

This situation has nothing to do with your interaction with Vod, and your insistence that it does is a convenient delusion.  I decided to remove you from my trust list for that interaction, because I thought you were being frivolous with your review.  But I didn't explicitly ~distrust you and likely would still have sent you $400 without a second thought.

Now I have you explicitly distrusted.  You don't belong on DT, in my opinion.  The trust you gained from the community was rooted in dishonesty and deception.  For three and half years you have deceived this community for your own financial gain.  

Then you publish a private discussion from someone you "consider a friend" and throw that friend under the bus?  In a bid to try to prove you're still trustworthy?

What a joke!

It's amazing to me that you don't see a problem with why they wanted it kept confidential.

That's completely irrelevant.  The confidential part is the relevant part, and how can anyone have any confidence in you going forward?

[SaltySpitoon]

I made the "crime" public (to use your analogy), so that there is not another victim, or a continued victim.
If you witness a rape, and the victim doesn't want to speak to the police - do you just walk away?

Well we seem to have finished discussing what needed to be discussed, but I noticed I missed this gem. Its an interesting ethical situation that goes both ways sometimes and with mixed results, at the risk of getting into a conversation that may hit a little too close to home for the public, if you don't mind I'm going to change the scenario just a tad.

I'm going to stick with the Lauda mafia boss analogy we've been going with here. LFC spilled the beans to you for your sake, because if they did so publicly they'd get "whacked". Then you confront Don Lauda with that information and LFC gets whacked. RIP.

Anyway, whats done is done, but in the future maybe consider the intent and implied privacy behind a private message versus something public. I'm with FH on this one, its bad practice.

[Lauda]

Are you saying that you deserve a point, because you edited your post and added that in after I had already responded - now to act as though it has been avoided?
Confused.

Responding too quickly usually leads to this; this isn't IM. I edit quite often within the first few minutes of posting.

Do you truly believe in your intimidation claims mr. liar?

Point.

Now answer.

I'm going to stick with the Lauda mafia boss analogy we've been going with here. LFC spilled the beans to you for your sake, because if they did so publicly they'd get "whacked". Then you confront Don Lauda with that information and LFC gets whacked. RIP.

I like the Italian style, makes me feel home.

[Quickseller]

this thread has been up for 6 years, and it very clearly says to publish PM logs if you are making a scam accusation.

There is no reason why you should expect privacy if you send a PM unencrypted. Period.

I will repeat myself that if you don’t want a PM published in which you said something embarrassing, you should not send a PM containing something embarrassing.

[DireWolfM14]

this thread has been up for 6 years, and it very clearly says to publish PM logs if you are making a scam accusation.

There is no reason why you should expect privacy if you send a PM unencrypted. Period.

I will repeat myself that if you don’t want a PM published in which you said something embarrassing, you should not send a PM containing something embarrassing.

Did LFC scam anyone, I missed that part.

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe LFC was just trying to be polite to bill?  Maybe he wasn't actually intimidated by Lauda, but merely convinced?  It's kind of convenient for bill to portray it as intimidation, now isn't it?

[bill gator]

I never claimed this situation had anything to do with Vod. I pointed out some similarities by an interesting crossover of topic participants.
You guys consistently go blind to the problems in front of you and routinely make it about the person presenting the problems.

Calling it "throwing someone under the bus" is implying what, that Lauda is the bus? No, I dragged his ass out of prison and said "look, this is freedom" and he ran back inside.
You're all more upset than the person it involves, when even they understand that if they weren't acting out of fear this PM wouldn't exist, and likely would already have been a public statement.

Responding too quickly usually leads to this; this isn't IM. I edit quite often within the first few minutes of posting.

Sounds more like posting too quickly is the problem.

Now answer.

Begone Wench! I'd rather watch you sperg out when I refuse to answer.

Then you confront Don Lauda with that information and LFC gets whacked. RIP.

Good thing we bugged Don Lauda. Now we have a dead-body, and intent.

Anyway, whats done is done, but in the future maybe consider the intent and implied privacy behind a private message versus something public. I'm with FH on this one, its bad practice.

Point taken.

[Quickseller]

this thread has been up for 6 years, and it very clearly says to publish PM logs if you are making a scam accusation.

There is no reason why you should expect privacy if you send a PM unencrypted. Period.

I will repeat myself that if you don’t want a PM published in which you said something embarrassing, you should not send a PM containing something embarrassing.

Did LFC scam anyone, I missed that part.

This would extend to other disputes (which this would fall under), even if you are not a party to the dispute, and would really apply to any other situations in which the content of a PM is relevant to a conversation/discussion.

[Thule]

this thread has been up for 6 years, and it very clearly says to publish PM logs if you are making a scam accusation.

There is no reason why you should expect privacy if you send a PM unencrypted. Period.

I will repeat myself that if you don’t want a PM published in which you said something embarrassing, you should not send a PM containing something embarrassing.

Did LFC scam anyone, I missed that part.

He abused the trust system fearing Lauda's actions against him when not complying which he openly admitted.

So the main Abuser is Lauda and the side abuser is LFC being a DT member and using the trust list not as he should.

Remember the massiv amount of people getting red tags because they tried openly to kick lauda out of DT because of his abuse ?
Where is the diffrence here?That Lauda is making it in secret ?
There it at least was openly and nobody was forced.Even the opposite people were risking to get tagged so they did it based on their own decission.
Here you have LFC in generally not wanting to remove bill from trust list but doing so because of fearing of laudas retribution if not complying

[DireWolfM14]

He abused the trust system fearing Lauda's actions against him when not complying which he openly admitted.

You abuse common sense every time you post.  Would you please STFU?

[Thule]

He abused the trust system fearing Lauda's actions against him when not complying which he openly admitted.

You abuse common sense every time you post.  Would you please STFU?

For my own comfort & to make my life easier I did it. I don’t want to get on the wrong side of them.

Your brain limited?

[DireWolfM14]

Your brain limited?

Only when I read your posts.  It's tiring.  It actually takes a lot of energy to shut down 90% of my brain just so I can make sense of your drivel.

[Lauda]

Now answer.

Begone Wench! I'd rather watch you sperg out when I refuse to answer.

You do realize that this kind of childish behavior (i.e. not even standing behind your own attack-words) damages your credibility even further, and that you're doing that all by yourself, right?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Thule, you’ve got 18 red trust ratings (that I see). Even if you were successful in removing myself & Lauda from DT your account is still splattered with red paint & essentially useless. What are you going to do then, move on to the other people who painted you red?

[Thule]

Thule, you’ve got 18 red trust ratings (that I see). Even if you were successful in removing myself & Lauda from DT your account is still splattered with red paint & essentially useless. What are you going to do then, move on to the other people who painted you red?

I'm going to punish the DT abusers.

Suchmoon will soon get the first BIG surprise.

Step by Step these people will get what they deserve from their abuse.

[Flying Hellfish]

It's amazing to me that you don't see a problem with why they wanted it kept confidential.

I give zero fucks why he wants it kept confidential, that's his business, assuming he's an adult it isn't for anyone but him to decide about LFC's motivation, you're not his mom, wife, kids or anyone else that should be deciding anything for him...

You could have used it as evidence in a case and asked him if you could post it (you didn't even give him the courtesy of a reach around by asking ffs).  You could have redacted his name and asked a global mod to verify it's authenticity but no you went balls deep and posted in forum.  Sorry but that is not fucking cool IMHO.

[bill gator]

childish behavior (i.e. not even standing behind your own attack-words)

These are not my "attack"-words; what a strange use of the English language, by the way, "Attack-words"?
I am quoting the words of a Legendary DT member that has expressed their overwhelming fear of you that has forced them to act outside of what they would normally do.

Childish behavior would be more along the lines of throwing a tantrum, demanding responses where none are deserved and twisting the situation to make this sound like I am making baseless claims against you.
All I've done is present how you are making your own "friends" feel.

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You've said the same thing literally three times now. Are you sure you're getting all the attention you claim to be?
I understand that an alternative presentation of the information would've probably been preferable in terms of ethics. I've agreed to that already.

Keep telling me to shove things up my ass, while you cough back up hairballs of ideas that you've licked off other members.

When confidentiality becomes abusive, it is immoral to knowingly accept it silently. Confidentiality caused by Tyranny and Fear is not the kind of confidentiality we should be promoting.
"Giving 0 fucks" about really anything to do with this forum, DT, Bitcoin or the community is a large part of the problem. Look the other way until you can score brownie points and slit your brother's throat for god's favor.

[Thule]

It's amazing to me that you don't see a problem with why they wanted it kept confidential.

I give zero fucks why he wants it kept confidential, that's his business, assuming he's an adult it isn't for anyone but him to decide about LFC's motivation, you're not his mom, wife, kids or anyone else that should be deciding anything for him...

You could have used it as evidence in a case and asked him if you could post it (you didn't even give him the courtesy of a reach around by asking ffs).  You could have redacted his name and asked a global mod to verify it's authenticity but no you went balls deep and posted in forum.  Sorry but that is not fucking cool IMHO.

Are you the mod who is deleting stuff which are against the group ?

Seeing how you are always protecting them you clearly seem not to be a neutral mod.

Lauda must be MUCH pissed about the PM

[Flying Hellfish]

It's amazing to me that you don't see a problem with why they wanted it kept confidential.

I give zero fucks why he wants it kept confidential, that's his business, assuming he's an adult it isn't for anyone but him to decide about LFC's motivation, you're not his mom, wife, kids or anyone else that should be deciding anything for him...

You could have used it as evidence in a case and asked him if you could post it (you didn't even give him the courtesy of a reach around by asking ffs).  You could have redacted his name and asked a global mod to verify it's authenticity but no you went balls deep and posted in forum.  Sorry but that is not fucking cool IMHO.

Are you the mod who is deleting stuff which are against the group ?

Seeing how you are always protecting them you clearly seem not to be a neutral mod.

You should stop licking lead window's, it's making your brain non-functional.

OFC I am the mod deleting everything I don't want, I have Lambo after Lambo because I am a good little hit man from the dark but your so fucking smart to be able to figure it out I should just go take a long walk off a short pier!

[Lauda]

All I've done is present how you are making your own "friends" feel.

Enjoy the path to 4 digit negative rating you lying fool. LFC_Bitcoin will have proper friends, not fake, back-stabbing pajeets like you. If you keep it it, you might become the next Thule. Dig, dig.