The ban was a mistake. I need admin’s attention

[Bttzed03]

It's almost two months since this thread was created. I doubt this case hasn't been discussed by admin/mods already. I'm also wondering why the reason for the permanent ban has not been disclosed. Those two plagiarism cases have been refuted also. Many of the unbanned accounts apologized for the past mistakes, perhaps that's what needs to be done here?

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[tvplus006-2]

Many of the unbanned accounts apologized for the past mistakes, perhaps that's what needs to be done here?

I am ready to apologize. Indicate the reason.

#freetvplus006

[Oyarebu]

Many of the unbanned accounts apologized for the past mistakes, perhaps that's what needs to be done here?

I am ready to apologize. Indicate the reason.

#freetvplus006

As said above ^.^ , it may be because of your approach to the ban account that's causing the delay in the unbanment, I would suggest you go through your replies on this thread and check for yourself; your actions towards others reactions if there is any you can figure out. Politeness and humility makes things work out fine and credibly.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I, like tvplus, got a ban two months ago. And to me, our administration indicated the reason for the ban. I am very sorry for what happened. I had time to realize my mistakes and in the future, it will never happen again.
We worked on identifying scam projects with tvplus in the team. And the forum for us is not  a way of making money but to some extent, the forum has become a part of our life.
There are so many participants who do not understand the full value of the forum itself, but not in the case of tvplus. You just look at the many banned members, they left .....
tvplus wants to be useful to the forum, he does not want to leave, does not want to deceive anyone by creating another account for himself. I, as a person who survived all the troubles of punishment, can say that there will never be any violations on our part.
I ask administrators to review the attitude to the account tvplus.
Or give a clear decision about the fate of  tvplus account.
Thank you in advance!

[tvplus006-2]

Moderators replied on almost all of ban appeal thread and reply the reason of ban. But wondering why moderators are silent on "tvplus006" case. At least we could see the plagiarism post that OP got ban for. We can't judge before know the mistakes. So we want to know what was the post/mistake ?

I don't know what it's for as there's no handled reports in the queue but I'm guessing it was probably for plagiarism.

In the message @theymos states that every plagiarism report is manually checked by the moderators:

All plagiarism bans are human-checked.

@hilariousandco , kindly clarify, if there are no processed reports, who checked my “plagiarism” and based on what my penalty is permanent ban?

I have been banned for over a month and, thus, cannot proceed with doing useful work for the forum, by revealing scams.

When making a final decision on my case, please take into consideration my attempts of fighting spam: 500 reports were sent to the moderator, only 9 of which were not accurate. And also my contribution to scams fight among ICO on our forum.
I am asking to unblock my account without any terms.

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[bob123]

This has been discussed many times in this thread. And this can not be considered plagiarism.

Why do you think this can not be considered plagiarism ?

It was an exact copy/paste of the post of another user.
You didn't forget to quote it properly, you didn't express any opinion. You simply just copy/pasted it.

If you just wanted to help someone / answer questions, why not either just quote it or use your own words ?

I don't think this falls under the category of mistakes mentioned by theymos.


IMO this is very clearly plagiarism.. anyway.. i wish you good luck getting your account back.

[tvplus006-2]

This has been discussed many times in this thread. And this can not be considered plagiarism.

Why do you think this can not be considered plagiarism ?
It was an exact copy/paste of the post of another user.
You didn't forget to quote it properly, you didn't express any opinion. You simply just copy/pasted it.
If you just wanted to help someone / answer questions, why not either just quote it or use your own words ?
I don't think this falls under the category of mistakes mentioned by theymos.
IMO this is very clearly plagiarism.. anyway.. i wish you good luck getting your account back.

I believe that is the mistake theymos was talking about:

I know of one case where someone was banned for plagiarism in the recent massacre, but a very careful reading of the context showed that the person actually did just forget to quote, and by "quoting" the post they were expressing an actual point even if it constituted their entire post. This person was unbanned without any sigban, since this isn't plagiarism.

Read more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147004.msg51844566#msg51844566

   
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[eternalgloom]

Just my 2 cents:

I don't think you're going to get unbanned, since you've been asking for so long and multiple mods would have seen your topic a bunch of times by now.
Looking at it from a mod's perspective, I don't actually see a reason to unban you.

You've clearly just copy/pasted a reply. It probably wasn't done maliciously, but I reckon that if they made an exception for you, it would just give other plagiarists even more excuses.

[jokers10]

Just my 2 cents:

I don't think you're going to get unbanned, since you've been asking for so long and multiple mods would have seen your topic a bunch of times by now.
Looking at it from a mod's perspective, I don't actually see a reason to unban you.

You've clearly just copy/pasted a reply. It probably wasn't done maliciously, but I reckon that if they made an exception for you, it would just give other plagiarists even more excuses.

To punish good users for good behaviour to prevent bad users from saying that they do the same? Well, most times moderator can see, which case is it in exact situation. If it is not clear, I prefer to give another chance to several intruders till they make an obvious mistake than to ban permanently even one good guy. Noone said any bad word about OP in this topic, so #freetvplus006.

[valerakuprichev2]

Spam it`s not mistake 

[tvplus006-2]

Spam it`s not mistake  

Bravo! Did you create an account to write this? https://i.ibb.co/F0PzGd2/3453234.png

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[marlboroza]

Looking at it from a mod's perspective, I don't actually see a reason to unban you.

Interesting.

Then how all other accounts are getting unbanned? Looking at it from my perspective I see: account is banned because they c/p post and that maybe wasn't malicious attempt to blatant copy/paste someone's hm..."work"? for post count, maybe user really wanted to be helpful but instead putting things under quotation marks they just c/p post.

Maybe it is just me and I am defending scam busters (60+ scams exposed), well, I'll be damned if that is not millions dollars saved in investards pocket.

That is net positive. It is damn time consuming, I can tell you that from first hand. It is much easier to go to gambling section and spam 20 messages to say how you agree that LUCK IS NEEDED for fucking win!

Banning users who are exposing scams while keeping users who are discussing "If I gamble and I pick nose at the same time, will I win?" is wrong!

It would be OK to say why this user does not deserve a second chance!

[bones261]

Yes, I wish a global moderator would comment on why tvplus006 has been overlooked for a temporary ban. I think he was definitely a net positive. Now I see many people that got the temp ban have had their temp ban expire and are posting now. tvplus006 have had several members requesting he get his ban removed. I hope a global moderator or administrator considers out pleas.

[hacker1001101001]

Just my 2 cents:

I don't think you're going to get unbanned, since you've been asking for so long and multiple mods would have seen your topic a bunch of times by now.
Looking at it from a mod's perspective, I don't actually see a reason to unban you.

You are totally wrong, there is actually a reason for Tvplus006 to deserve a second chance, as he is more net positive to the forum overall than other banned members.

You are just ignoring the good work old man!

You've clearly just copy/pasted a reply. It probably wasn't done maliciously, but I reckon that if they made an exception for you, it would just give other plagiarists even more excuses

Let them complain and if they are surely net positive to the forum, one deserves a second chance. That's the exact reason theymos give temp ban powers recently to the mods here if you don't know.

[spiritu]

It looks like this site is applying a double standard. On the one hand, user was banned for several copied lines.
On the other hand, someone can be easily forgiven for a stolen article https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157468.0

[hilariousandco]

Where exactly is the refutation of this post below because it's pretty cut and dry plagiarism to me:

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It looks like this site is applying a double standard. On the one hand, user was banned for several copied lines.
On the other hand, someone can be easily forgiven for a stolen article https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157468.0

I'm happy to not issue another sig ban at all and just leave accounts banned forever if you think that would be more fair. Several factors are involved with issuing them but there's no set criteria and every mod may have different reasoning.

[tvplus006-2]

Where exactly is the refutation of this post below because it's pretty cut and dry plagiarism to me:

I have not even considered the post as plagiarism. It may be seen that I have tried to help one of the participants by incorrectly quoting one of bounty manager’s post, which was very big. I was inexperienced, as up to that point I have only been on forum for 2 month, that is why I did not know, that you could simply delete unnecessary information from the quoted text. You can follow the link to see where the fragment came from and indeed it is placed in the same bounty  topic.
It is not about payment since signatures from bounty posts are not included in the campaigns. It is clearly seen, that my aim was to help one to find an answer to the question.

They also write about it here:

This has been discussed many times in this thread. And this can not be considered plagiarism.
I believe that is the mistake theymos was talking about:

I know of one case where someone was banned for plagiarism in the recent massacre, but a very careful reading of the context showed that the person actually did just forget to quote, and by "quoting" the post they were expressing an actual point even if it constituted their entire post. This person was unbanned without any sigban, since this isn't plagiarism.

Meh, tvplus just was answering a noob's question and parroted what the OP had answered to another user. I think the intent was to be helpful rather than upping their post count for financial gain.

It is very clear that OP was just tried to help someone else. That's the reason why I am much curious to know why OP got banned. If only reason that mentioned by suchmoon then OP likely deserve unban without conditions according to admin.

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[hilariousandco]

Where exactly is the refutation of this post below because it's pretty cut and dry plagiarism to me:

I have not even considered the post as plagiarism.

Well it clearly is and you saying it cannot be considered plagiarism is just wrong. I don't even know if that was the post you were actually banned for but it's plagiarism regardless of what you and a couple of others may claim or think.

[tvplus006-2]

Where exactly is the refutation of this post below because it's pretty cut and dry plagiarism to me:

I have not even considered the post as plagiarism.

Well it clearly is and you saying it cannot be considered plagiarism is just wrong. I don't even know if that was the post you were actually banned for but it's plagiarism regardless of what you and a couple of others may claim or think.

I believe that is the mistake theymos was talking about:

I know of one case where someone was banned for plagiarism in the recent massacre, but a very careful reading of the context showed that the person actually did just forget to quote, and by "quoting" the post they were expressing an actual point even if it constituted their entire post. This person was unbanned without any sigban, since this isn't plagiarism.

[hilariousandco]

There's no evidence to suggest that. Sometimes you can tell when someone's just accidentally fucked up a quote. I PMd theymos to see if he has an archive of the reports against you.