Selling Antminer z11

[smoothyvo]

So has crypto832 replied with the tracking from last night

No.

[philipma1957]

yeah I will be send coin shortly.  0.2800 btc to 3GvEb7kskGKGArwLLbiM6hvuNkt24zd8Mw


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d5f031df1dab79b927cde7ea26749ee0adbda481865c62ab5e609c0f45c83830



https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3GvEb7kskGKGArwLLbiM6hvuNkt24zd8Mw


tester send is above


full payment of 0.280  refund has been sent

see below:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/4aad42299352fa1445dac768438636f2b6e9baf8d8f4d584076fafe6fe517d23

[MoparMiningLLC]

seems amazing that while the seller seems ticked that the deal is being reversed and buyer is being refunded - even to saying that they have shipped the item the day before but still never posted something which would simply validate the statement - a tracking number...

also funny that on the same day they are posting & complaining about another seller not getting back to them... oh and did so on the date they claim they had no internet...

i been pming about s9 over and over

i been pming about s9 over and over

I would be willing to escrow for you and op.

Thanks lets get this done

This is not going to be escrowed by me as seller wants

gold
bank transfer or
Usdt

yep and im out also i doubt anyone gets what they pay for here

made the three posts above last night about trying to purchase miners - but could not post a tracking number for their own sale because:

The item has shipped we were without internet all last night wtf? I guess ill just recall it and eat the shipping.........................................

Phil - this is a perfect example of why there are escrow services such as yourself.  

[inrockitrust]

seems amazing that while the seller seems ticked that the deal is being reversed and buyer is being refunded - even to saying that they have shipped the item the day before but still never posted something which would simply validate the statement - a tracking number...

also funny that on the same day they are posting & complaining about another seller not getting back to them... oh and did so on the date they claim they had no internet...

i been pming about s9 over and over

Phil - this is a perfect example of why there are escrow services such as yourself.  

Indeed, 100% agree with this post

[Crypto832]

So has crypto832 replied with the tracking from last night

No he has not.  So do I still have the funds  and if he really shipped it would he be paid

https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/address/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3

yes the funds are here.

 So I will wait a bit longer. smoothyvo has been patient.  Thank you for that.



At crypto832  if you are this unlucky in life and tons of shit happened to you I am sorry.  But I have never called you out as a scammer.

Yet  in a pm today you wrote you were scammed shipping.  Well how is that if you had shipped yesterday you could show it is on its way.

 and You would get the coins when it arrived.

I went the extra mile to give you the chance to show you are a good decent seller.

You still have time to show that monday date for the shipping.  As I will hold funds just a bit longer.












A Complete aside escrow work sucks.

I escrowed about 5000 usd in 3 escrows .  the last 10-15 days  my fees were 75 bucks.  once I did test sends I spent about 10 or 15 of  that 75 bucks  so a net of say 60 usd for me.   I have written more then 50 pm's for these escrows  they still are not finished. and if you look above you will see when I almost f'd up and listed wrong refund address there was no one either buyer or seller   saying hey phil  you mixed  refund address of buyer with seller's payment address.

I caught that before the  tester send  which is why I send a tester send  since it is only 7 or 8 bucks.  Once I do this and I am confirmed I send rest of coin.

At times I feel  25% of the escrows I do are simply done by a scammer trying to tire me out and get me to stop escrowing.  Thus allowing scammers easier work at scamming.

now i am a scammer? wow so professional

[MoparMiningLLC]

now i am a scammer? wow so professional

you may want to re-read what he said. he said that he feels that 25% of deals that go bad are from scammers. he never said you directly.

[Steamtyme]

now i am an alleged attempted scammer? wow so professional ~FTFY~ 

Now that is my addition and is no where near what Phil said. He has shown more patience than I've seen any escrow use on this forum, mind you I don't often see people toy with others time and money in this fashion. Watching this you've been shown infinite consideration for every possible issue that has happened to you in the last week. The fact is you are a waste of everyone's time, and I feel this was probably a really shitty Escrow for Phil to have had to manage and navigate at this time due to some of the excuses made.

You have shown up here several times since claiming to have sent the package and not once have you shown tracking information. Not that hard but you seem to act like it has to be delivered by carrier pigeon to the mountaintop offices of the Internet. I've left my feedback previously to the affect that you are essentially a time waster, and I suggest people avoid dealing with you.  I might revise it that they should have you pay escrow fees up front because you waste peoples time and BTC which is worse than your average troll.

[WhyFhy]

seems amazing that while the seller seems ticked that the deal is being reversed and buyer is being refunded - even to saying that they have shipped the item the day before but still never posted something which would simply validate the statement - a tracking number...
also funny that on the same day they are posting & complaining about another seller not getting back to them... oh and did so on the date they claim they had no internet...

i been pming about s9 over and over

Phil - this is a perfect example of why there are escrow services such as yourself.  

Indeed, 100% agree with this post

I also correlated a few things on this user that just did not add up.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152921.0

This user also painted smoothyvo red for "costing him shipping"
I highly recommend DT1 and Other DT2 members Red tagging this guy with the facts and proofs given.
Phil sorry about your endeavors with this guy. A member such as yourself deserves a little more respect then this.

[Crypto832]

seems amazing that while the seller seems ticked that the deal is being reversed and buyer is being refunded - even to saying that they have shipped the item the day before but still never posted something which would simply validate the statement - a tracking number...

also funny that on the same day they are posting & complaining about another seller not getting back to them... oh and did so on the date they claim they had no internet...

i been pming about s9 over and over

i been pming about s9 over and over

I would be willing to escrow for you and op.

Thanks lets get this done

This is not going to be escrowed by me as seller wants

gold
bank transfer or
Usdt

yep and im out also i doubt anyone gets what they pay for here

made the three posts above last night about trying to purchase miners - but could not post a tracking number for their own sale because:

The item has shipped we were without internet all last night wtf? I guess ill just recall it and eat the shipping.........................................

Phil - this is a perfect example of why there are escrow services such as yourself.  

have you ever heard of recalling a shipment as i previously posted? Why would i give the tracking to the buyer after he has been refunded when he can simply have the item held by fedex for his pickup and not pay? Your not very smart.

[MoparMiningLLC]

seems amazing that while the seller seems ticked that the deal is being reversed and buyer is being refunded - even to saying that they have shipped the item the day before but still never posted something which would simply validate the statement - a tracking number...

also funny that on the same day they are posting & complaining about another seller not getting back to them... oh and did so on the date they claim they had no internet...

i been pming about s9 over and over

i been pming about s9 over and over

I would be willing to escrow for you and op.

Thanks lets get this done

This is not going to be escrowed by me as seller wants

gold
bank transfer or
Usdt

yep and im out also i doubt anyone gets what they pay for here

made the three posts above last night about trying to purchase miners - but could not post a tracking number for their own sale because:

The item has shipped we were without internet all last night wtf? I guess ill just recall it and eat the shipping.........................................

Phil - this is a perfect example of why there are escrow services such as yourself.  

have you ever heard of recalling a shipment as i previously posted? Why would i give the tracking to the buyer after he has been refunded when he can simply have the item held by fedex for his pickup and not pay? Your not very smart.

I am not smart? you recalled it after Phil was cancelling and after you said you had no internet all night - yet that same night you had no internet, you were here posting about buying 100 miners from someone else...

we here are not as stupid as you keep calling us. when you were making the post about not having electricity, you could have posted the tracking number at that time or at the times during the night prior when you were posting about buying 100 miners.

phil did not refund the btc until after you said you were recalling the package.... you wasted everyones time here.

edit*** not to mention - posting the tracking - even if recalled would still prove it was shipped - tracking numbers do nothing but show where a package is at...where it came from...where it is going... oh and when it was sent... the lack of providing one does nothing but show you to be a liar. buyer already did his part. you did nothing but post excuses - many of them false - and provably false. In both this post and in other posts. Until you prove yourself, you have zero credibility here. all the people you are insulting have done what you have not done - establish credibility...

[offordscott]

Philip, you need to raise your escrow rates so it's more worth while to you.

OP... "My husband had a heart attack and is in ICU at this time". You won't believe how many times something like this comes up in the mining industry when it comes time for a buyer to cough up the funds. There is always a wild excuse as to why someone missed the contractual deadline and missed out on an opportunity.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Philip, you need to raise your escrow rates so it's more worth while to you.

OP... "My husband had a heart attack and is in ICU at this time". You won't believe how many times something like this comes up in the mining industry when it comes time for a buyer to cough up the funds. There is always a wild excuse as to why someone missed the contractual deadline and missed out on an opportunity.

or when they said they had no internet all night so could not post the tracking yet was commenting on other posts at the same time they supposedly had no internet lol

[philipma1957]

Philip, you need to raise your escrow rates so it's more worth while to you.

OP... "My husband had a heart attack and is in ICU at this time". You won't believe how many times something like this comes up in the mining industry when it comes time for a buyer to cough up the funds. There is always a wild excuse as to why someone missed the contractual deadline and missed out on an opportunity.

I have done escrow for years as a community service and not as a money maker.

For now I simply will not do very many at all as I don't want to do it to make money.

My mining is taking off and it becomes more and more of a burden to do escrows.

The wife gets annoyed that I do them.  She keeps  saying is if you do 40 right and 1 wrong you lose money.  She's right.

So for now I will let others do them. I need to tend to the farm as it is.

[offordscott]

You can't provide it as a service if you don't make a little $ doing it. If you don't do it, then someone else is going to get screwed because they can't find a reliable escrow.

So, you are actually doing the community a service even if your prices are higher.

You could charge 5%-20% depending on the size of the deal and no one will blink an eye, because it's YOU they trust.

Raise your rates, so that people can continue using your services! Otherwise, you'll burn out and no be able to be of any help to the community.

[MoparMiningLLC]

You can't provide it as a service if you don't make a little $ doing it. If you don't do it, then someone else is going to get screwed because they can't find a reliable escrow.

So, you are actually doing the community a service even if your prices are higher.

You could charge 5%-20% depending on the size of the deal and no one will blink an eye, because it's YOU they trust.

Raise your rates, so that people can continue using your services! Otherwise, you'll burn out and no be able to be of any help to the community.

I agree with the above, leave the 1% and 2% to us noob escrow providers Though I doubt I will get any business even with a lower rate until my trust rating is higher.

[Dudukian]

Lol , the OP is making offers to buy a Z11.   They are in the same price range .  Why would he be trying to buy one and sell his at the same time ?   I'm sick of people trying to take advantage of people.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Lol , the OP is making offers to buy a Z11.   They are in the same price range .  Why would he be trying to buy one and sell his at the same time ?   I'm sick of people trying to take advantage of people.

they are also selling/buying on their alt as well - maybe trying to scam for money in sales? and get miners sent as well in purchases? but with no intent to pay and/or deliver?