Bitcointalk Charity Fund

[Hhampuz]

I like giving for a good cause just as much as the next guy but sometimes I feel like it would be nice to send some bits and pieces here and there to a collective pool that would be given out at the end of each month for example. Why don't we launch something like that for bitcointalk? Imagine certain months if people were in a giving mood and we could make some headlines around the world (perhaps wishful thinking but still).

What I'd propose would be for either theymos or the newly formed multi-sig treasurer team to be in control of a donation address and at the end of each month we take a week to poll what charity to give it to?

Perhaps the idea is silly, if that's the case I always welcome a "F off". Just thought it might be time to spread some good vibes rather than the recent (not so recent) bad ones.

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[PrimeNumber7]

I think this will violate this rule:

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I would consider "asking for donations" the same as "begging" :

beg
verb (used with object), begged, beg·ging.
to ask for as a gift, as charity, or as a favor:

[Hhampuz]

I think this will violate this rule:

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I don't think it would be a direct violation of that rule if it was just an address posted in a thread by theymos, for example. Nobody would be forced to give and it wouldn't have to be promoted all too much. Would just be nice to see something official, perhaps you are right though 

[bones261]

   I think the poll should be taken before the funds are collected. I am leery of giving funds to a charity fund and after the poll, it ends up being for a cause that I don't agree with.

[PrimeNumber7]

   I think the poll should be taken before the funds are collected. I am leery of giving funds to a charity fund and after the poll, it ends up being for a cause that I don't agree with.

I would agree with this statement. In addition to being a little annoyed about getting panhandled for money, I would be ticked off if any money I did give as part of my tithe went to something I did not wish to support.

I could also give money to a charity of my own choice on my own.

[cabalism13]

A nice idea, indeed. Me and my local will love to support this kind of project, I haven't updated my thread for I was too busy at the moment, and yet, there are some things that I must do first,... Still it wasn't dead yet, We're willing to continue this Charity Things.

As for the donations,we can also give the portion of the funds that we have saved in the past...

[Hhampuz]

   I think the poll should be taken before the funds are collected. I am leery of giving funds to a charity fund and after the poll, it ends up being for a cause that I don't agree with.

That could definitely be a thing too. I don't know of too many charities accepting crypto but there's a handful - all of which support great causes like the water project, freeross etc.

[SaltySpitoon]

I think you'd be better off creating a type of charity club where some members reach out to various established charities and try to convince them to accept Bitcoin. Then, you wouldn't need any middlemen holding the funds or any type of vote on what a collective fund would be used for. After the legwork is done, any user could contact the organization directly to get a new deposit address to prevent any sort of shenanigans, and there wouldn't be any sort of bureaucracy involved.

[cabalism13]

Shouldn't we just moved on, for the guys who doesn't want to support the OP?  Nobody would care if you didn't make a contribution, but if you're saying that you'll just support a Charity if you like it, then just do it. Nobody is enforcing you to make a donation for a random Charity. In fact, the poll will be the first move and I think you will still have the chance to decide for yourself whether you'll give or not.

That could definitely be a thing too. I don't know of too many charities accepting crypto but there's a handful - all of which support great causes like the water project, freeross etc.

There are some, but the majority is just pure scam. The only thing we can do about it is to visit them personally, just like what @crwth has done on the past month. If theymos could consider this then there will be some individuals here that will do a voluntary work.

I don't doubt the chances, if its for the sake of the other people whose in need, I won't hesitate to help. (I would also love the Animal Charity 😁 )

I think you'd be better off creating a type of charity club where some members reach out to various established charities and try to convince them to accept Bitcoin. Then, you wouldn't need any middlemen holding the funds or any type of vote on what a collective fund would be used for. After the legwork is done, any user could contact the organization directly to get a new deposit address to prevent any sort of shenanigans, and there wouldn't be any sort of bureaucracy involved.

I second this.

[Hhampuz]

I think you'd be better off creating a type of charity club where some members reach out to various established charities and try to convince them to accept Bitcoin. Then, you wouldn't need any middlemen holding the funds or any type of vote on what a collective fund would be used for. After the legwork is done, any user could contact the organization directly to get a new deposit address to prevent any sort of shenanigans, and there wouldn't be any sort of bureaucracy involved.

That could definitely be an option too, although there's a few that already do accept bitcoin. But I get what you're saying, just wanted the community to come together slightly for a common goal.

[Vod]

What I'd propose would be for either theymos or the newly formed multi-sig treasurer team to be in control of a donation address and at the end of each month we take a week to poll what charity to give it to?

You'd have to openly vet each charity before you even suggested them.   A lot of work.  Someone could just claim they are "like a charity" and accept donations.   Who would be on the hook for the taxes and legal issues?

[SaltySpitoon]

That could definitely be an option too, although there's a few that already do accept bitcoin. But I get what you're saying, just wanted the community to come together slightly for a common goal.

It can still be a collective effort, the collective part would be the community effort to make it easier for anyone to donate. A trader might make a really nice trade and decide to donate some for example, but they might not do so if they have to jump through hoops converting to fiat to do so. If a handful of people put in the effort to reach out to charities to get them to accept BTC in the first place and keep a thread about those that do, the trader might donate when they otherwise wouldn't have.

It would be easier to get charities to accept if you said, hey, we've got a fund together with 1 BTC (~$8000) if you want to accept BTC to motivate them to learn about it in the first place, but then you run into the issue of people being unhappy donating to causes they don't care for by a popular vote.

[Hhampuz]

You'd have to openly vet each charity before you even suggested them.   A lot of work.  Someone could just claim they are "like a charity" and accept donations.   Who would be on the hook for the taxes and legal issues?

My suggestion would be to only go with the legitimate and verified charities, such as the water project, freeross etc. I believe there's an extensive list (We wouldn't add each and every suggestion to the poll, but perhaps take from this list?), if that makes sense. I had it when I did a charity raffle a while back, will see if I can't find it again.

It can still be a collective effort, the collective part would be the community effort to make it easier for anyone to donate. A trader might make a really nice trade and decide to donate some for example, but they might not do so if they have to jump through hoops converting to fiat to do so. If a handful of people put in the effort to reach out to charities to get them to accept BTC in the first place and keep a thread about those that do, the trader might donate when they otherwise wouldn't have.

It would be easier to get charities to accept if you said, hey, we've got a fund together with 1 BTC (~$8000) if you want to accept BTC to motivate them to learn about it in the first place, but then you run into the issue of people being unhappy donating to causes they don't care for by a popular vote.

Yeah I get what you're saying. As my reply above to VOD I would mainly have us start out with the ones that do already accept BTC/Other crypto, not converting any fiat or so (I've done it in the past when doing charity raffles). It's perhaps not the best idea but maybe some food for thought. I'll take what you've proposed to heart as well and see if I can't link up with a few other members and to just that, educate charities that currently don't accept crypto.

[suchmoon]

It seems contrary to the whole idea of Bitcoin to have someone else handle payments for me when I can easily do it myself. Perhaps a better effort would be to maintain a list of Bitcoin-accepting charities if one doesn't exist yet, plus what Salty suggested. Also there might be some inconveniences with pooled funds depending on local laws and regulations - larger donations could trigger reporting requirements for the charities, individual donors might not be able to use tax deductions unless the fund itself is a charitable organization, etc.

[Hhampuz]

It seems contrary to the whole idea of Bitcoin to have someone else handle payments for me when I can easily do it myself. Perhaps a better effort would be to maintain a list of Bitcoin-accepting charities if one doesn't exist yet, plus what Salty suggested. Also there might be some inconveniences with pooled funds depending on local laws and regulations - larger donations could trigger reporting requirements for the charities, individual donors might not be able to use tax deductions unless the fund itself is a charitable organization, etc.

Understandable, evidently I did not think this thing through 

[Lionel Messi]

It seems contrary to the whole idea of Bitcoin to have someone else handle payments for me when I can easily do it myself. Perhaps a better effort would be to maintain a list of Bitcoin-accepting charities if one doesn't exist yet, plus what Salty suggested. Also there might be some inconveniences with pooled funds depending on local laws and regulations - larger donations could trigger reporting requirements for the charities, individual donors might not be able to use tax deductions unless the fund itself is a charitable organization, etc.

Understandable, evidently I did not think this thing through 

No reason to apologize you are only trying to help everyone 

[suchmoon]

Understandable, evidently I did not think this thing through 

Nah, it's always easier to critique something...

[vit05]

I believe that there could be something like this, but not accept donations, but contributions from services that are offered in the forum and paid in tokens. Signature Campaigns, bounties, ANN, airdrops. Any such topic would pay a small contribution, a part of this would pay for moderation and a portion would be sent for donations.

[Quickseller]

Given your history, I don’t think it is a good idea for you to be involved in managing others’ money in any way, including organizing any effort for someone else to do so.

Polls can be manipulated and are generally not reliable

[theymos]

The voting could be proportional, so if you donate 1 BTC and vote to donate it to the EFF, 1 BTC will be donated to the EFF.

More seriously, this sort of donation pool might have some extra positive effects due to its ability to more effectively market itself and its ability to engage in more complicated projects than just "donate to x charity". But for it to be better than just having donors donate to whoever they want, the pool should probably be an actual tax-exempt nonprofit.

I've thought before about giving forum badges (or maybe even forum BTC credit) for donating x BTC to Bitcoin-accepting charities, but it's difficult to track. There's no way to prove that you donated to the EFF, for example, as far as I can tell. It'd be nice if there was some standard protocol for this sort of thing.

[Hhampuz]

I've thought before about giving forum badges (or maybe even forum BTC credit) for donating x BTC to Bitcoin-accepting charities, but it's difficult to track. There's no way to prove that you donated to the EFF, for example, as far as I can tell. It'd be nice if there was some standard protocol for this sort of thing.

That's exactly what I had in mind too actually, although it would be hard to track as you say. Well, perhaps we shouldn't shut the door on this one just yet .

[TheNewAnon135246]

Given your history, I don’t think it is a good idea for you to be involved in managing others’ money in any way, including organizing any effort for someone else to do so.

Polls can be manipulated and are generally not reliable

We are talking about donating, as a community, to A CHARITY. Can you please keep your bullshit accusations out of this?

On topic: Great idea. Binance has a similar program for donations. I'd definitely donate if I like the charity it is going to.

[Vod]

This would help spread BTC awareness, which is a good thing right now.

BUT

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-31/bitcoin-s-rally-masks-uncomfortable-fact-almost-nobody-uses-it

The points that article makes also applies to donations.

[YOSHIE]

Your goal is good at giving charity a little donation of your income to others, but many people think unexpectedly,
It means jealousy if it's not right on target.
A disappointment over jealousy over the benefits obtained by others and their desire, to be owned by themselves in an unfair way, so that people want to show something original as if he needed that charity.
Reasons, sick grandmothers, infectious diseases, orphanage, decrepit,natural disasters etc.
In my opinion why don't you just look in the real world around you: come, see, give it right away, maybe it's more appropriate for those who need it, charity donations.

Just an opinion.

[samcrypto]

Someone should work on this hands on because if we only give the money to the local charity or to any group of people, we don't know if the money goes to the right person or they just corrupt the money, I can see this as one of the problem on doing charity.

We have a good intention on this one, but its hard to implement it. Every local board can have a good charity program, the trusted users who are willing to help more people can make this possible.

[Quickseller]

Forum members can donate to charities if they wish. I would be supportive of encouraging people to donate to causes they care about.

In general, I believe giving to charity should be an altruistic and doing this for recognition perverts the altruism. This would not apply if you are using your influence to encourage others to help out.

Forum members can vote for particular charities to encourage people to donate to, so long as it is acknowledged that polls are not reliable. I think a third party collecting money to donate to charity is only going to result in corruption. 

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I've thought before about giving forum badges (or maybe even forum BTC credit) for donating x BTC to Bitcoin-accepting charities,

No theymos don't involves badges, I see a situation where forum users will only donate just to be recognized via badges which goes against the whole idea of charity. I'll love it, if every one could donate anonymously e.g I won't what to be judge based on the amount of bitcoin I can afford to donate.

And about the selection of charity organization, to avoid sending funds to fake charity we should only accept registered charitys and if possible only those that accepts bitcoin, this will encourage more charity into accepting bitcoin so they can tap into the blessing coming from Bitcointalk.org as a result we are also contributing to the adoption of bitcoin. Also the charity selection should be distributed across all countries and continents.

[Jet Cash]

I do a lot of charitable work, but I do it directly where I know it will make a difference. I no longer support registered charities, as most of the money seems to go to pay high salaries, property purchases and misdirected aid. There are also political issues such as the British RSPCA and the "charitable humanitarian aid" that Washington tried to impose on Venezuela.

[erikalui]

PETA accepts bitcoins: https://www.peta.org/donate/membership-services/donor-faq/

So if PETA being a big organization can accept bitcoins via bitpay, many others too would accept the payments. I too prefer giving donations to the charities (mainly concerning soldiers and animals) directly like I send charity funds via Paytm (my Indian online bank) so I would recommend PETA to be included

[hilariousetc]

I've suggested something like this numerous times before. I've even suggested either a percentage or even all of the money from donator ranks/more ad slots could go there (which I am still in support of because donator ranks have multiple benefits for the forum):

I'd like to get the community's thoughts on possible alternatives to permabans for things like copy and pasting/plagiarism. One that seems to have the support of quite a few people is instead of a permanent ban a user has a signature ban instead (IE the signature is removed so they can no longer earn here). The signature ban could be permanent, temporary, or indefinite until the user has proven their worth over time and then it's reinstated. We could even make it so after the user has received x amount of merit then their signature is possibly reinstated (it would have to be a lot - at least one hundred in my opinion). I think there are several levels of severity in plagiarism and not all are equal and in some cases a permanent ban forever can be a little harsh (especially if it was just one silly mistake). I think there's a big difference in someone quoting something from Wikipedia to answer someone's question, and those that purposefully copy someone else's post here or 'text-spin' it just to earn from signatures (I'm really not sure if those users deserve a second chance, but good luck to them trying to get hundreds of merit to get it back). To be honest, removal of their signature to signature spammers might as well be a permanent ban and most will probably just give up immediately if they can't earn here, but for others it would be shame if there's no chance of forgiveness especially if they've been an active or helpful member of the community and just screwed up one time. Theymos has mentioned before signature bans and blacklists and was something that was supposed to happen with the signature campaign guidelines but maybe he could make this his next priority after the account recovery tool.

Alternatively, what do people think about paying some sort of fine to get their account back? The money probably wouldn't go to the forum or staff but to a bitcoin-accepting charity instead. That way at least a good cause benefits and they're still paying a financial penalty.

You could maybe give people two options for those that are banned for plagiarism: You can either have a sig ban indefinitely but are allowed to post, or possibly even allowed to earn the signature back by getting a sufficient amount of merit (say maybe at least 100), or just pay a substantial fine (at least $100). As I've mentioned before I'm strongly in favour of more donator ranks that give you a bigger signature and maybe they could get their signature back by purchasing one of them. I think we should also give them the option of earning it back via merit so at least they have two options and if they don't want to pay anything then they can try earn their signature back by contributing something worthwhile.

You can vote for two options on the poll just in case you are for both a sig ban and paying a fine. If you have any other alternatives or issues with the current options then please state so. You can also discuss how much a fine should be or how much merit a user should earn before they get their signature back.

1) Make it so that posts from lower ranked members don't bump the thread to the top (ideally up to Member)
2) Get rid of the Announcement board completely and instead charge ICOs a fee to list here and once they do they get their own sub board in the Alt Coin section. If this happens then paid bumping is useless. Many of them would probably like having their own board and they could even be responsible for moderating it or mod it how they like.

ICOs should probably be paying a fee to list here anyway. They get a crazy amount of advertising for free and are probably causing 95% of the staff workload by all the spam and abuse that is happening and staff are left to run around like headless chickens trying to clean it all up. It's about time they have to start compensating for this. Money raised can either go to hiring more staff to combat spam or given to charity.

Thoughts or anyone have any other suggestions to combat this abuse?

More donator ranks have been suggested numerous times by various people including me.

More income isn't needed right now

As I've said before, you could always give it to charity or use it to fund worthwhile developments that benefit the community or crypto. Out of interest, does the forum hold any fiat reserves?

Based on the fact that I now felt that the driving force behind theymos' decisions was not $

Right, I don't care about making money from the forum personally. (I've actually thought about getting rid of the forum ads, since it's often a big headache and the forum has enough reserves for a long time, but operating at a significant loss while there's money basically just sitting on the table feels wrong, even if the level of loss is sustainable for quite a while.)

I don't disbelieve you when you say that you don't care that much about making money from here as there could have been numerous ways that you could have personally enriched yourself both legitimately and illegitimately from the forum over the years and I've even suggested that you pay yourself a reasonable wage and do admin duties here full time before because one is badly needed, but saying things like you've thought about getting rid of ad slots baffles me. Why? Because they're too much of a hassle and headache for you to organise? If so, can't you either automate the procedure of people buying them or delegate a staff member to be in charge of advertisements instead of just considering removing them completely? Delegating workload to various people will seriously free up your time to do much more productive things and stop you from being pestered about things you don't have the time or energy to do (and other staff members are then pestered who don't even have the means or authority to help). The forum shouldn't be losing money or throwing it away and even more ad slots wouldn't hurt (especially when the forum is covered by sig ads that the vast majority only contribute to the deterioration of the board). Even if we don't need the money the reserve funds won't last forever, but you could even put the money made to good use. Use it to finance worthwhile projects that will benefit bitcoin or even the world, or even give it all away to charity. Nearly 500 people died in floods in Kerala, India last month. We could make sure it gets into the hands of people who actually need it there. What's even worse is that you always get scumbags popping up here trying to use various tragedies to scam by asking for donations. Happens with every natural disaster. I'm sure if we had some sort of official donation drive many people would contribute to it in knowing that the money will actually get to the right people and make a difference.

I lost access to my thigh ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  

What is your original account? Did you follow the procedure to recover it?

this forum really is not about making money, but making money is now part of this forum. Actually, it's okay to earn money here as long as you also contributes in discussions pretty well.

I think this is well put. As I've said before, this forum (along with bitcoin) is a victim of its own success and just attracts both the desperate and nefarious. I think it's great that people can a earn here and the money made can actually make a difference to people's lives (I know it has mine), but it's frustrating how it's being exploited by masses of people just crapping up the forum in the laziest and greediest way possible (and it's the campaigns that should be held responsible for this). Whilst this forum isn't about making money, it is a forum about money (and a new type of money) and I don't think we should forget that. Measure should be put in place to try stop the abuses that go on though and I think punishing campaigns that don't do their job would go a long way. I also still think we should introduce paid bitcointalk ranks like Silver and Gold Member that have the same benefit of Seniors and Heroes or whatnot. This would essentially kill account farming and account sales and like the op has already experienced the majority of account sellers are just opportunistic scammers now. Most of them don't even seem to have any accounts for sale and just hope they get someone desperate enough to send them money first. I honestly don't see any negatives about letting users purchase such memberships. The money made could either be used to fund worthwhile projects (I've suggested before a decentralised forum software, a better DDOS-type service or even a bitcointalk seastead/Island) or just give the money to charity. The only people who are going to lose here are account farmers whilst the benefits are numerous.

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I've thought before about giving forum badges (or maybe even forum BTC credit) for donating x BTC to Bitcoin-accepting charities,

No theymos don't involves badges, I see a situation where forum users will only donate just to be recognized via badges which goes against the whole idea of charity.

It doesn't go against it. Many charities actually give out some sort of badges if you donate to them:



They used to (or still do) do a special gold one every year which became quite collectable:



Then there's also the more famous poppy appeal:



It's just an incentive for people to donate and a way of showing your support and everyone benefits. The original bitcoin donation drive to fund the new forum came with additional perks like the VIP tag and custom titles etc. Getting a few perks for donating to a good cause isn't a big deal.

I'll love it, if every one could donate anonymously e.g I won't what to be judge based on the amount of bitcoin I can afford to donate.

You can already send money to any charity you like anonymous. You don't need to involve the forum with that and there are plenty of charities that already accept bitcoin.

More seriously, this sort of donation pool might have some extra positive effects due to its ability to more effectively market itself and its ability to engage in more complicated projects than just "donate to x charity". But for it to be better than just having donors donate to whoever they want, the pool should probably be an actual tax-exempt nonprofit.

I've suggested we set up our own charity before. The community could vote on where the money goes every month/year/whatever, or maybe we even only send it to charities that accept bitcoin directly. We could also work with trying to spread adoption of bitcoin by working with charities to adopt it themselves if they already don't.

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BTW, there are already a couple of British charities that accept bitcoin directly:

https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations
https://www.savethechildren.org/us/more-ways-to-help/ways-to-give/ways-to-help

[Oyarebu]

  I think the poll should be taken before the funds are collected. I am leery of giving funds to a charity fund and after the poll, it ends up being for a cause that I don't agree with.

Agree with you based on my past experience on donating to charitable organizations. If this is done in the right way, there will be a positive result that will come into play in regard to Bitcoin; and in general Bitcointalk.org as a community. We should put this as a way towards adoption of Bitcoin to the populist(masses). Although, suggestions has been flowing in and will peg with @hilariousetc ^..^

  

  

[eternalgloom]

I've thought before about giving forum badges (or maybe even forum BTC credit) for donating x BTC to Bitcoin-accepting charities,

No theymos don't involves badges, I see a situation where forum users will only donate just to be recognized via badges which goes against the whole idea of charity. I'll love it, if every one could donate anonymously e.g I won't what to be judge based on the amount of bitcoin I can afford to donate.

And about the selection of charity organization, to avoid sending funds to fake charity we should only accept registered charitys and if possible only those that accepts bitcoin, this will encourage more charity into accepting bitcoin so they can tap into the blessing coming from Bitcointalk.org as a result we are also contributing to the adoption of bitcoin. Also the charity selection should be distributed across all countries and continents.

I respectfully disagree with that notion. In the end, who cares that people are just donating to get recognition?
The end goal is to support charities that are doing something good in the world, for me that isn't "tainted" by the fact that some people are donating because of some form of personal gain.

Bitcoin could certainly use the positive press & the charities could certainly use the money.
Though I'd make sure every charity is properly vetted & only those that have low amounts of overhead are added, how much is debatable of course. (You have websites that track this)

[jademaxsuy]

Well we can use block chain to it so as to make sure that funds can be safely passed on to the charity if money given is cash. This seem good but as we all know that money is very hot issue.  

Yet, Hamphuz is one great user in this forum. I could trust this guy working for it. Anyway, we are doing blockchain so that all donations will be traced and of course there should be a liquidation that will going to happen like receipts that would match between the expenses and the donated money from different donators if the money is used or converted for material things or for basic needs like food.

[LTU_btc]

I'm not against this idea, but I'm not sure that someone acting as third party to collect donations and later send it to charity is really needed. These people who want to donate is already doing it themselves without intervention of third parties.
I remember theymos in past said that Bitcointalk don't really need revenue from sold ad slots, because they have lot of BTC in reserve. So, maybe Bitcointalk can donate part of their revenue to charity, together with this pool?
And if such charity pool will be made, we should be sure that 100% legit charity organisation will be chosen. Because in past I read some bad things about such big organisations like UNICEF, that not all donations reach people who really need for it. So, sometimes I prefer to donate to local animal shelter instead of big charity organisation to be sure that my donated money will be spent in a right way.

No theymos don't involves badges, I see a situation where forum users will only donate just to be recognized via badges which goes against the whole idea of charity. I'll love it, if every one could donate anonymously e.g I won't what to be judge based on the amount of bitcoin I can afford to donate.

Even if some people donate just to be recognized, it's nothing wrong, because they're still helping with their money. Your post reminded me some celebrities or millionaires - I'm sure that some of them donate to be recognized or to it's just PR. But still, they are spreading avareness about charity, advertise it and it helps to attract more donators.
BTW, on Bitcointalk we have "Donator" badge for people who donated 50 BTC and more. I doubt that they donated money to get badge and be recognized here...

[wwzsocki]

This is a really good idea Hhampuz and Bitcointalk needs more charity events.

Some time ago I accepted a challenge in the Ice bucket challange ... meh ... Rank up challenge ! thread and had to donate to some charity after I lose the bet.

Thought it would be great to donate to some charity related or run by Bitcointalk community. I have found out that there is almost nothing on the forum.

I was sure that there will be plenty of charity events to choose from when I started to look was really surprised that nobody is actually doing this, taking into consideration how much money is involved around the forum.

There were actually only two events at this time from which one was a ticket raffle if I can member correctly.

End up donating to Bitcointalk Charity Program - Give Hope to Everyone $ 1 Is A Big Thing For Them because there was no other choice.

Actually, few other members who had to fulfill the bet and donate to charity were not able to find anything here on Bitcointalk also and donated to charity outside the forum. Exactly to Binance charity already mentioned in this thread.

There should be a charity event which will be connected to the Bitcointalk forum and widely recognized.

[SaltySpitoon]

Assuming that everything works as well as it possibly could and there is no issue with third parties holding the funds or with the legitimacy of the charities, you still end up with the issue of your funds not going to where you want, even with a vote. There are a handful of charity names that were given here just as an example that I'd be upset about donating to even by proxy. Some people donate to animal shelters because animals can't help themselves like humans can. On the flip side, some people don't donate to animal shelters because they feel there money would be better spent on taking care of human problems. Its a matter of opinion and who you donate to is sort of personal. Opinion of individual charities aside, with some charities 90%+ of the donation goes to the cause and less than 10% to administration, with some, less of what you give ends up supporting what you intended. Which ones are worthy of donation again is a personal decision.

I get that its easier to have a charity accept BTC if a forumwide pool is being offered to them should they decide to accept BTC and having a large group may have some convenience factors. I still think you'd end up with better overall results if the group of people involved was doing the legwork to get as many charities as possible accepting Bitcoin, and individual users could stop by a well curated thread to drop a few satoshis towards a cause they personally like rather than to a slush fund.

[Hhampuz]

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I agree with most of your points Salty, however my intention with this would not be to try and "force" someone into it. Simply just for either theymos or the treasurers to be in control of an addresss where donations can be sent that would go towards charity. It would be up to each individual if they firstly want to/can donate and then if they see the list of charities and dislike any of them they can just donate directly. From that point of view I don't see an issue.