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I lost access to many three high ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

People like you, who don't care about this forum and only want money, are not wanted here anyway.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.  Smiley

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June 24, 2018, 03:46:29 AM
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It's easy to say money doesn't matter when you don't have to worry about money.  vod, You've been here since 2011 so I'm sure you don't have to worry about money.

Not the point.  This forum is not about making money.

Myself and many other long term members are working to get rid of shitposters and people that don't get about cryptocurrency.

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I hate to say it but the guy got some point Sir Vod. Maybe yes, this forum really is not about making money, but making money is now part of this forum. Actually, it's okay to earn money here as long as you also contributes in discussions pretty well.

Just an example is me. Yeah, other people can judge me because they might say that I only posts here because of my paid signature campaign in short "To earn money". But actually, even without in any campaign, I still posts because it is my contribution to the forum. I know its easy for you guys to say these words
People like you, who don't care about this forum and only want money, are not wanted here anyway.
because you don't need to earn money for now for some reason that maybe because you have another job or source of income for daily expenses or maybe because you have enough savings to use.

I know some member here also understands my situation, same as to OP. Because most of people here although some Legendary Members and trusted Members also participates in campaigns.
There's nothing wrong to join campaigns isn't Sir? As long as you're not violating any rules and you are doing good contributions.

I acknowledge you Sir, and I acknowledge your words. But sometimes, we really have to do things with our own way.

I have more reasons why I participate campaigns. If I were only a rich guy, I'm pretty sure that I won't spend my time joining these campaigns. But unfortunately, I'm not rich.

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This is my house captured a few days later. I don't know if you guys can still call it "house" but this is where I live. Our kitchen sink just destroyed last night due to its almost years too old (it's just made of bamboo woods). This is my first reason why I participate campaigns, to earn money and to somehow earn money to help my parents from our daily expenses and for repairing our house.
I'm a college student and having side line jobs while in the middle of thesis is pretty insane. That's why sometimes I use this forum to get a little income. Luckily for me, my parents still afford to buy me an Android phone and a Laptop (cheap price) because I really need it for my studies as I'm a computer based course student. I will cut my story here.

Sorry if I'm using the forum to earn money. You guys can judge me now as I tell you my whole story. But I can assure you that these posts I made is also a little contribution to the Forum.

Sorry if I'm already off topic OP.
Sir Vod, I hope you understand us now.  Cry But I totally agree that other members out there only uses this forum to earn money. We can noticed it by their paid sigantures and shitposts.

That's all.

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June 24, 2018, 04:25:47 AM
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I lost access to many three high ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

U turn to panic now  Cheesy. Calm down man. You can't earn money when u become crazy and panic.
Actually, its your fault for losing all high ranked account. So you can not blame forum and others. Its also make u got scammed  Angry. Feel sorry for you, man.
Relax, take it easy. U still earn money by other bounty campaign. If you leave now, you earn nothing.
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Who said making money here is something bad? The problem is when you ONLY use this forum to make money. Which is the case in 90% of the new users registering every day.

OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one. Do you really think this is the type of user that is going to contribute and learn about cryptos? Hell no. He will just spam the heck of the forum while he tries to milk as much money as possible. And this type of user isn't welcome here.

I'm sorry if you guys need the money to live and feed your family. But spamming isn't the answer. You can earn as much money as possible with your (one) account by helping people and writing constructive posts. But if you are here to lazily spam and copy paste, you will either get a negative trust or a ban. And we won't be sad for you losing your "job".

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June 24, 2018, 04:51:54 AM
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Why would you bother with the risk of getting scammed by an account farmer (and contribute to the account farming and hacking problem) when you can just buy a copper membership.

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June 24, 2018, 05:00:45 AM
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Why would you bother with the risk of getting scammed by an account farmer (and contribute to the account farming and hacking problem) when you can just buy a copper membership.
Copper membership won't increase our ranks or the signature code limits,it just help us to create the threads like a high member ranked account do.
OP's problem is that he can't make money here anymore because he thinks that the ranking to high rank is impossible for the new users.Yes it may takes possible but it will depends on our effort to contribute to the discussion.
So copper membership is not a solution for him. Tongue

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Who said making money here is something bad? The problem is when you ONLY use this forum to make money. Which is the case in 90% of the new users registering every day.

OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one. Do you really think this is the type of user that is going to contribute and learn about cryptos? Hell no. He will just spam the heck of the forum while he tries to milk as much money as possible. And this type of user isn't welcome here.

I'm sorry if you guys need the money to live and feed your family. But spamming isn't the answer. You can earn as much money as possible with your (one) account by helping people and writing constructive posts. But if you are here to lazily spam and copy paste, you will either get a negative trust or a ban. And we won't be sad for you losing your "job".
Sir, Do you think that my posts are spams? Or they are just fine enough to be called "constructive"? I just really want to know. Because I'm risking my reputation here saying over and over that my posts are not spams. But, I really don't know if you guys accepts my posts and consider it as constructive.

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

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By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...

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You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...

That’s completely new for me. I’d say this guy having earned 61 merits means he has made a good contribution to the forum.

It’s perfectly compatible to want to make money and to be a good forum member.
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By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.
I  think that percentage is exaggerated. A lot of the older members here that haven't been hacked registered to learn, and discuss about Bitcoin. Even though I wear a signature today it wasn't the reason I signed up. In fact I don't think they were even a thing back in 2013. I might be wrong there, but they certainly weren't as popular as they are now.  

Plus, if you are posting to earn money then that's part of the problem. They generally aren't quality posts, and just seem constructive at quick glance due to them being longer than the general spam you see. I don't have a problem with people earning on signature campaigns otherwise I would be a hypocrite wouldn't I? However, the attitude is wrong if you are posting to get paid. It should be that you are posting anyway so might as well get paid for it.

The telltale factors of someone posting for money is that during their downtime (when they aren't on a sig) is they don't make anywhere near the amount of posts that they make once they apply, and get accepted on a signature campaign.

Sir, Do you think that my posts are spams? Or they are just fine enough to be called "constructive"? I just really want to know. Because I'm risking my reputation here saying over and over that my posts are not spams. But, I really don't know if you guys accepts my posts and consider it as constructive.

Having said that your posts seem fine, however your likely to get painted with the same brush by a few people if you keep addressing everyone as "sir".

That’s completely new for me. I’d say this guy having earned 61 merits means he has made a good contribution to the forum.

It’s perfectly compatible to want to make money and to be a good forum member.

Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Vod that quality doesn't matter. I don't really care the motives for someone posting as long as it's constructive, and isn't something being rehashed in an attempt to seem constructive or earn merit.

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I lost access to my thigh ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  

What is your original account? Did you follow the procedure to recover it?

this forum really is not about making money, but making money is now part of this forum. Actually, it's okay to earn money here as long as you also contributes in discussions pretty well.



I think this is well put. As I've said before, this forum (along with bitcoin) is a victim of its own success and just attracts both the desperate and nefarious. I think it's great that people can a earn here and the money made can actually make a difference to people's lives (I know it has mine), but it's frustrating how it's being exploited by masses of people just crapping up the forum in the laziest and greediest way possible (and it's the campaigns that should be held responsible for this). Whilst this forum isn't about making money, it is a forum about money (and a new type of money) and I don't think we should forget that. Measure should be put in place to try stop the abuses that go on though and I think punishing campaigns that don't do their job would go a long way. I also still think we should introduce paid bitcointalk ranks like Silver and Gold Member that have the same benefit of Seniors and Heroes or whatnot. This would essentially kill account farming and account sales and like the op has already experienced the majority of account sellers are just opportunistic scammers now. Most of them don't even seem to have any accounts for sale and just hope they get someone desperate enough to send them money first. I honestly don't see any negatives about letting users purchase such memberships. The money made could either be used to fund worthwhile projects (I've suggested before a decentralised forum software, a better DDOS-type service or even a bitcointalk seastead/Island) or just give the money to charity. The only people who are going to lose here are account farmers whilst the benefits are numerous.

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.
I  think that percentage is exaggerated.

It's not if you change it to users who now register here or have done over the past five years. I think 90% would then be an understatement. I think people who sign up here now just to earn will dwarf those who actually come here just seeking knowledge or to discuss about bitcoin etc.

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By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...
I agree with the author posting to make good to everyone is one thing. Posting good thing to earn money is quete another. Although it is better than to post with low quality.
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Sir, Do you think that my posts are spams? Or they are just fine enough to be called "constructive"? I just really want to know. Because I'm risking my reputation here saying over and over that my posts are not spams. But, I really don't know if you guys accepts my posts and consider it as constructive.

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

Your posts are probably in the top 5% of the posts on this forum. I had a quick look at them and most are fine.
By the look of your merit history you would be on track to rank up with merit around the same time as your activity would allow you to rank up.

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I was a bit far from the forum, but I see that the discussions are always the same, as it's always the same the underlying hypocrisy.
If you want to remove the shitposters, simply delete the signature campaigns. That's all.

(The merits are useless, the shitposters that previously made a hundred messages now make a thousand for the same gain)

But of course, the high ranks that with the campaigns make a lot of money don't agree.
I understand this, but at least I'd beg them to  stop making fun of us saying that the forum is not about to make money, that said by those who do it, is ridiculous and annoying.



It's easy to say money doesn't matter when you don't have to worry about money.  vod, You've been here since 2011 so I'm sure you don't have to worry about money.

Not the point.  This forum is not about making money.

Myself and many other long term members are working to get rid of shitposters and people that don't get about cryptocurrency.

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You don't have to be a sig spammer to make money as a result of your membership of this forum. I've just sold a Bitcoin domain name, and I've just bought another one. Actually I'm quite excited about that. the name is https://ThermoCoin.com/ , and the idea came from reading posts in this forum. I'm seriously considering using the name to create a new coin, and membership of this forum will be a massive help if I do decide to do that.

The Jet Cash coffee lounge in the Ivory Tower has had some good relaxing chat recently, just what you would expect.
We need some girls to brighten the conversation though.
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You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...
I'm only posting for money when I'm wearing paid Signature. But either I'm wearing signature or not I still do posting as like what I said earlier, it's my way of contributing to the forum than spamming in Megathreads and etc. I know it's difficult for you guys to understand my situation, for you Vod. But although you guys hate me that much because whenever you see this username Silent26 all that comes to your mind is I'm just here for money.  I won't keep any grudge to all of you.

To what you've just said Vod, I just want to clear, you were saying that a good quality post and a shitpost has no difference at all if they're posted for money. Then you were also pertaining that our efforts are just waste of time  Cry

 
However, the attitude is wrong if you are posting to get paid. It should be that you are posting anyway so might as well get paid for it.

But that's what exactly I'm doing. I'm not posting for money, I'm doing all this for this so called "contribution" that everyone is talking about that most members has been lacking. Yes, I'm participating campaign to earn money but that's not exactly the reason why I'm here. I'm so lucky to be in this forum with all of you as this forum changed my life. Knowledge is the first reason why fate brought me here. Without this forum, I would never ever learned anything about crypto and also, this forum helps me improves my English vocabulary a little. I never talked to English speaker people and didn't even got a gut to defend and construct English words against them before.

A little off topic but when I'm not yet discovering this forum, I thought that Bitcoin is the tokens/chips used in Casino.

 
The telltale factors of someone posting for money is that during their downtime (when they aren't on a sig) is they don't make anywhere near the amount of posts that they make once they apply, and get accepted on a signature campaign.

I agree. But I can assure that I'm not one of them. My signature campaign requires 10 post to complete our job but I posted almost 20 plus starting from 607 posts. I'm not like other people who will just make a exact number of required posts because those just to get paid. I'm posting not worrying about my sig campaign but as a contribution (once again).

But there are times when I'm not getting online (due to studies, thesis, personal problems etc), but either I'm in a campaign or not if I'm really busy doing some important things IRL, I won't really get online. It only means that I doesn't matter and I'm not worrying if I won't get paid.

 
Having said that your posts seem fine, however your likely to get painted with the same brush by a few people if you keep addressing everyone as "sir".

I'm been wondering why some people here are having trouble with that attitude of ours.
I'm sorry but you can't blame me. It's our way of respecting other people usually to strangers. It's been in our tradition that's why we can't help avoiding it.

But starting now I will try not to, for my account's sake of not getting banned but you can't blame me if I accidentally add it to my post. It's my one and only account here that's why I'm taking care of it.

By the way, I'm not having trouble calling Jet Cash as "Sir Jet" so I won't quit calling him that name.

Just look what you've made me to call Vod  Cry I removed the "Sir" before his name. Now I felt so disrespectful  Cry

I'm not a good poster like nullius, iasenko, mdayonliner, theyoungmillionaire and etc. But I'm not a shitposters either. Just refer me to a simple Member who contribute in the forum. I don't need acknowledgement from you guys but it's up to you. Understanding is what I'm (also other members with the same situation as mine) expecting from all of you  Cry

 
That’s completely new for me. I’d say this guy having earned 61 merits means he has made a good contribution to the forum.

It’s perfectly compatible to want to make money and to be a good forum member.

Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Vod that quality doesn't matter. I don't really care the motives for someone posting as long as it's constructive, and isn't something being rehashed in an attempt to seem constructive or earn merit.
Thanks for understanding.

Your posts are probably in the top 5% of the posts on this forum. I had a quick look at them and most are fine.
By the look of your merit history you would be on track to rank up with merit around the same time as your activity would allow you to rank up.
Thanks Smiley It's been a long time since someone gave me such a good words Smiley

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IMO, the OP's stand and Silent26's stand are not comparable.

OP has no intention of caring about the forum...
OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one.

However, Silent26 seems contributing for the forum. S/he actually cares about the forum as much as he needs money too (Silent26, I am sorry for the hard life you are experiencing. At some point, we all had it. If you are honest and hard working with strong ethics then things will be changing very soon. It's the rule of the nature).

People like OP are the snake of the forum and people like Silent26 are good asset for the forum.


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I'm not a good poster like nullius, iasenko, mdayliner1, theyoungmillionaire and etc. But I'm not a shitposters either. Just refer me to a simple Member who contribute in the forum. I don't need acknowledgement from you guys but it's up to you. Understanding is what I'm expecting from all of you  Cry
I think non of us are as good as nullius, s/he is out of our league.

And about me...? I do not think I am that much good as you guys think. I am just a consistent customer, love to involved myself with everything, with most of the topics. I know, I have a lot of problems with grammars, spellings, constructing sentences, choosing words however I am kind of lucky that I live in one of the most economically rich country, regularly visit western countries although I born in eastern culture. It helps when you talk to people with multi-culture in person.

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Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Vod that quality doesn't matter. I don't really care the motives for someone posting as long as it's constructive, and isn't something being rehashed in an attempt to seem constructive or earn merit.

Thinking about this post, I’ve just thought about @The Pharmacist. I suppose we all agree that he is a very good/exceptional forum member. He says that he holds no bitcoin because he has to spend what he earns here to cover his living expenses. That means when he is posting here he does so for the money that he needs, and I don’t see anything wrong with it.
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