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July 17, 2019, 12:57:56 PM
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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM






Damn, Pacquiao is actually looking quite old.

I'm actually going to have to say that Thurman has a better chance of winning now, Pacquiao looked slow in the vid.

I'd still give him the slightest edge now, 55% chance to win by UD.

Dont be so confident because being old doesnt mean he's slow. The video can be edited or chooses the part which Manny has slow punches. I really believe that experience is the best investment in boxing and i know he will win the fight even with a 12 round boxing game. Manny is on shape now and i cant wait to see the results.

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July 17, 2019, 04:12:02 PM
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I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?
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July 17, 2019, 04:41:43 PM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find  habits he can exploit as well.

Marquez was an expert counter puncher. That was his game. We have seen how he proved to be the best on it during his early fights with Manny Pacquiao. He was so convinced of his counter punching with their previous fights that he didn't believe to have lost to Manny even once. Well, the KO of Manny from Marquez was the latter's best counter punch in all their fights. Manny was faking a punch and Marquez caught him with a deadly blow.

And you also have to consider that that ko was in their 4th fight. So marquez actually had the luxury of figuring out pacquaio 4 times. Something that thurman doesn't have. Though the kid is skilled and pacquiao's age is something he canntake advantage of, manny's experience would probably be enough to secure him a win. The problem is, this will only push the guy to continue fighting despite his age. A loss, i think, would be beneficial since he may have to consider retiring then.
Firstly, I don't see Pacman retiring without giving Amir Khan the fight he asked for and I don't see him retiring also without fighting Mayweather again to proof his worth.
With that been said, Manny experience won't give him an advantage of winning his fight against Thurman because Thurman have spent much of his previous years fighting people who are experienced than him and he could easily gather what he gained fighting to beat Manny.

 I feel sorry y'all which choose Manny as the winner.

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July 17, 2019, 11:17:27 PM
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I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

It's hard to understand but maybe because Thurman is showing something like what Broner has done to overconfident and also people have seen the kind of training Manny has been doing, and Manny just said that he is really pissed of with Thurman, now we have never seen Manny got pissed of to any of his opponents, the pressure is on Thurman, he could end up another Broner.

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July 17, 2019, 11:59:10 PM
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I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

It's hard to understand but maybe because Thurman is showing something like what Broner has done to overconfident and also people have seen the kind of training Manny has been doing, and Manny just said that he is really pissed of with Thurman, now we have never seen Manny got pissed of to any of his opponents, the pressure is on Thurman, he could end up another Broner.
If only we we're able to record the day to day change of the odds, the press release of both fighters and also the forecasts of boxing analysts, maybe we can figure it out. Thurman talks trash a lot, and it think he wants Manny to engage on talking trash but I don't see Manny doing that, he is just so kind and full of smiles but dangerous inside the ring.
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July 18, 2019, 01:38:03 AM
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I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

I think you got it wrong. If those are the odds, you will have to bet $154 on Manny to win $100. As for Thurman, you will need to bet just $100 to be $136 richer. That's how those odds work.

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July 18, 2019, 04:45:40 AM
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Pacman no doubt became the legend boxer in his time up to the present in the entire world.
I saw how his life progress until He reached to became one of a billionaire boxer, and yet He has also have
a successful carrier in politics were He started from congressman now and one of the senators of His country.
Even his opponent is 10 years younger to Him, I think age does not matter and not a big deal. I am pretty
sure majority of the people's bet is for sure goes to Pacquiao fo course.
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July 20, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find  habits he can exploit as well.
It took months and months of preparation before the fight and boxers and coaches are not only for training and practices because they are also into watching at studying the opponent in every single way so I guess that’s already given
The mistake of Pacquiao against Marquez is him being so aggressive and being confident because for how many times he had already beaten Marquez and he didn’t expect a single bout will bring him down

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July 20, 2019, 11:30:37 PM
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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8


Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676
It's easy to say than doing it,  boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find  habits he can exploit as well.
It took months and months of preparation before the fight and boxers and coaches are not only for training and practices because they are also into watching at studying the opponent in every single way so I guess that’s already given
The mistake of Pacquiao against Marquez is him being so aggressive and being confident because for how many times he had already beaten Marquez and he didn’t expect a single bout will bring him down
You might be right cause aggressive and overconfident act also leads to loss of a fighter which has already beaten down his opponent several time but I believe the act of not being calculative to guard the open spot when he throws his punches is the reason because if there's no open spot Marquez won't have had the chance to hit him hard.

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July 20, 2019, 11:54:39 PM
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Pacman no doubt became the legend boxer in his time up to the present in the entire world.
I saw how his life progress until He reached to became one of a billionaire boxer, and yet He has also have
a successful carrier in politics were He started from congressman now and one of the senators of His country.
Even his opponent is 10 years younger to Him, I think age does not matter and not a big deal. I am pretty
sure majority of the people's bet is for sure goes to Pacquiao fo course.

I definitely agree with your point, Pacman sure is a legend in boxer and he is called that for a reason, Thurman maybe young but age doesn't matter really, what matters most is the skills and strategy once they are in the ring, so it is too early to know whose gonna win but I have faith with Pacman, I just think that his gonna win this fight.

I placed my bet on Pacman but still, we don't know what might happen. Pacquiao undeniably is a great fighter, but Thurman is too and as a proof he is undefeated until now. As I said in some of my posts, this is a challenge for Pacquiao, to determine whether he will be having a rematch, another fight or just hang his gloves.

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July 21, 2019, 02:29:25 AM
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Undercard ongoing on right now.

Inson vs Lipinets. I'm on Inson, well the bet is only with my cousin but I am hyped because well, he is one of my countrymen, a Filipino pride. Every minutes are passing and I am getting hyped for the main event.

Edit : Inson was KOed seconds before I posted this. He's still young and I know he will develop more. Round 2 KO by Lipinets.
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July 21, 2019, 03:07:40 AM
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Undercard ongoing on right now.

Inson vs Lipinets. I'm on Inson, well the bet is only with my cousin but I am hyped because well, he is one of my countrymen, a Filipino pride. Every minutes are passing and I am getting hyped for the main event.

Edit : Inson was KOed seconds before I posted this. He's still young and I know he will develop more. Round 2 KO by Lipinets.
I missed the undercard game since I just got home from work overtime too bad that one Filipino was knocked down but boxing goes that way one must down for the others to stand still

Anyway excited for the final bout and also for my bet with local friends ,this is what we do most of Pacquiao’s fight we are going to one another as friendly gambling and most of the time the winnings will go to Drinking and bar hopping after the fight even who’s the winner still he will pay for all the expenses
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July 21, 2019, 03:16:46 AM
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Undercard ongoing on right now.

Inson vs Lipinets. I'm on Inson, well the bet is only with my cousin but I am hyped because well, he is one of my countrymen, a Filipino pride. Every minutes are passing and I am getting hyped for the main event.

Edit : Inson was KOed seconds before I posted this. He's still young and I know he will develop more. Round 2 KO by Lipinets.

Even if Inson loses, I still feel good for him as he got paid really high even if he loses the game. That opportunity will surely give him some knowledge and experience to improve his self towards his new fights.

Considering that Lipinets is a very though opponents but it would be more fulfilling if he won the game.
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Last match before the main event Figueroa Jr. Vs Ugas.

Not that interesting fight for me to be honest. No offense to their supporters it is just that there are a lot of well, intimate fight, if you know what I mean. My bet is on Ugas, hope he knockouts this undefeated guy so we can move on to the main event. Keith Thurman says he will not let his face touched by Pacquiao, I said he will not be touching it, he will be pummelling it will fast and solid punches, so hyped right now.
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July 21, 2019, 05:24:43 AM
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Congratulations, Manny!!!

You deserved the win!!! Wink
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July 21, 2019, 06:12:56 AM
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Congratulations, Manny!!!

You deserved the win!!! Wink

A really great fight even though Manny isn't able to knock out Thurman it is a very entertaining fight, in my opinion, Well at first Thurman had thought that he can take Pacquiao more aggressively but after Manny knocks him down he changes pace and the style of his stance was change so sudden after seeing how his fighting style will not work on Pacquiao, But as the fight progresses I guess Thurman had held his own until the last match but he can not outclass Manny Pacquiao with his young age and a far reach but Pacquiao had the experience in fighting Thurman,

So Congratulations to Pacquiao for this win, And I never saw him retire so soon after this victory but again, In my opinion, I think he had shown us more than enough. 
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July 21, 2019, 07:24:52 AM
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Congratulations, Manny!!!

You deserved the win!!! Wink

And congratulations also to those who bet on Pac Man! Grin It was really a good fight. I guess Thurman ate all the trashtalks he gave the fighting Senator before the fight. I guess he really underestimated Pac Man.

Even the hosts find the match favored to Pac Man. One of them (hosts) said that the judge who favored for Thurman was not watching very close, and that the "split decision" was ridiculous. I agree with him on that one. Grin But, after all what's been said and done, we can really see that they both performed well. Job well done for both fighters.

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July 21, 2019, 07:29:55 AM
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Congratulations, Manny!!!

You deserved the win!!! Wink

A really great fight even though Manny isn't able to knock out Thurman it is a very entertaining fight, in my opinion, Well at first Thurman had thought that he can take Pacquiao more aggressively but after Manny knocks him down he changes pace and the style of his stance was change so sudden after seeing how his fighting style will not work on Pacquiao, But as the fight progresses I guess Thurman had held his own until the last match but he can not outclass Manny Pacquiao with his young age and a far reach but Pacquiao had the experience in fighting Thurman,

So Congratulations to Pacquiao for this win, And I never saw him retire so soon after this victory but again, In my opinion, I think he had shown us more than enough. 

He was able to held his ground because Manny got tired already. A indication that age has caught up with him, or he probably over-trained. Manny proved that he still had the chin, it held against Thurman's best shot. The problem is that he gas out.

I don't think he will retire yet, probably will go back as Senator and do his duties until someone called him up again and says that they are the 'legend killer', lol.

Anyways, the whole Philippines is celebrating and Manny will be waiting for a hero arrival here.

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July 21, 2019, 08:58:29 AM
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Congratulations, Manny!!!

You deserved the win!!! Wink

A really great fight even though Manny isn't able to knock out Thurman it is a very entertaining fight, in my opinion, Well at first Thurman had thought that he can take Pacquiao more aggressively but after Manny knocks him down he changes pace and the style of his stance was change so sudden after seeing how his fighting style will not work on Pacquiao, But as the fight progresses I guess Thurman had held his own until the last match but he can not outclass Manny Pacquiao with his young age and a far reach but Pacquiao had the experience in fighting Thurman,

So Congratulations to Pacquiao for this win, And I never saw him retire so soon after this victory but again, In my opinion, I think he had shown us more than enough. 

He was able to held his ground because Manny got tired already. A indication that age has caught up with him, or he probably over-trained. Manny proved that he still had the chin, it held against Thurman's best shot. The problem is that he gas out.

I don't think he will retire yet, probably will go back as Senator and do his duties until someone called him up again and says that they are the 'legend killer', lol.

Anyways, the whole Philippines is celebrating and Manny will be waiting for a hero arrival here.

Well apparently Pacquiao is not the type to really hold back from a fight and never gonna hold back when someone challenges him, So he may never retire for the time being his career in boxing If he can still do it he will still fight for the glory of his country, But for me it is really a great time for him to really retire in his boxing career because like you have said there are many young fighters that caught up to his age, But that is his decision to make, And I think he is training his son to be a boxer right now I guess he is preparing for this until his legacy to pass the baton to another champion, But again if he would concede from his boxing career I guess it will be OK for his fan for him to do this And focus more on his government duties.
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July 21, 2019, 10:06:21 AM
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I could not watching live match because it wasn't available on my local channel tv and only can watching through youtube for the first round when Pacquiao knock out Thurman and apparently after that Pacquiao can dominated almost for every rounds

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