Stake.com Signature Campaign - A new kind of future

[feryjhie]

Last week's total members - 125
Current total members - 27

Last week's total posts - 1521
Current total posts - A lot less

Last week's min character count - 25
Current character count - 100

after i saw the list of accepted people i saw many of them never made a post in the last 2 weeks ~ 3 months and the total post made will be too low because there are just 10~12 member that active posting.
btw will the contest still run for this week? because i just read the thread and i don't see any info about the bonus

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[owlcatz]

after i saw the list of accepted people i saw many of them never made a post in the last 2 weeks ~ 3 months and the total post made will be too low because there are just 10~12 member that active posting

That's great, less spam and bullshit to wade through!

[Nadziratel]

America is putting pressure on all exchanges not to trade with its citizens. A behavior that is not appropriate for the crypto market ...

Stake excludes bounty hunter from his campaign, a longtime participant. Another inappropriate behavior ...

You're right ... I think we've overestimated you too much ...

[hilariousetc]

Looks much better. I would be careful with the character count though as it's not always indicative of a good post. People in the past have just unnecessarily waffled on when they didn't need to just to hit their x amount of character requirements. Some users even added invisible junk to the end of their post so the bot that was counting their characters would be tricked into thinking it was a countable post. I could have stopped there but lets just string this paragraph out until I hit one hundred characters for sure. Some more text just in case. That should do.

Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)

How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.

Why does it matter? Being a Legendary doesn't mean you make better posts and if they were all making the same quality posts then maybe they should all be paid the same, but that's up to the campaigns and if they're ok with paying the same for smaller sigs. Personally I don't care whether someone is getting 1 cent or ten dollars per post and that's up to the person whether they want to accept the rates or not, but what I am concerned is the spam. Hopefully that will stop now with these changes as long as Steve keeps on top of things.

Unfortunately, I am not anymore included in the list but that is fine since I already feel that I should go as it has become too toxic for me lately.  Anyway, without any drama further, thanks a lot to Stake and Steve for this wonderful opportunity -- no single payment missed and always on schedule. Despite some shortcomings (especially in the eyes of his many critics), Steve is a good signature manager for me.

Now I know someone is doing their job because you were one of the problem posters obviously just forcing yourself to post. It also can't be that toxic if you immediately try to get another advertisement:

Are you paying on stake account or on users addresses?

If you are paying on users address and you add this address on the spreadsheet it will help to find abusers, some users use even 50 accounts here on the forum.

Steve is paying through the website,straight to our accounts.
Its real some even have hundreds and have a small time company in spamming sigs in this forum,the usage of direct bitcoin wallet payout will be useful to eliminate spam yes,its up to steve if he'll change the rules to that.

Why would someone be dumb enough use the same address multiple times on different accounts though?

Some people are that dumb or sometimes they use addresses that are later spendlinked and that's when they're busted. When you've got dozens of accounts it will become difficult to manage them all effectively and many screw up this way by using the same telegram or address or whatever. Having users pay into their own accounts would probably be easier for you to spot abuse via IPs and such, but maybe that's not something you would do.

I suggest for the rate to be not uniform, every rank should have different rate.

I guess the following rate would be competitive enough, you can already have a good poster that will be loyal to your campaign.

Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.

Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd

Why? And why did you stop at Hero? Because you're not Legendary and that rank doesn't effect you?

[Bitinity]

Just wanna say thank to Steve and Stake for the chance for being involved on the campaign since the start. I have to admit we have some arguments by private message on telegram about the campaign since the beginning but I appreciate your decision. I received 75% of my total received merit while joining your campaign seems to be nothing compared to the number of my deleted posts but it does not really matter for me.
As what you can see on my Stake's account, what I've spent is more than what I've received from the campaign and probably you can confirm that I never cashed out my campaign payment just after I received it every week. Of course it has nothing to do with the accusation that I'm a type of spammer, I participated because I like the site personally, because I like gambling, and I have to admit that there is a chance to earn extra money for my gambling activity on Stake. I've tried my best in all campaign that I've joined so far, but if it was not good enough for most people in this forum then I apologize for it. I'll try to be a better poster as I can.

Official campaign members list
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/127282xBJq5UtDH9vI8U96GNxBWN_3-3o-P6vTT44Fec/edit#gid=380619948

Let me know what you think and if I missed anything from being awake this long I'll then fix it when I wake up

One question, why you removed XinXan but you keep Bardman while they seems to be the same person?
Prove that they are probably the same person:

User: XinXan
Postion to Apply: Hero member
Posts Start: 1637
Address: 1988L7bpKspCjwcoTvqc5s5SGrK6HzMB24

As archived

The same bitcoin address as you can see on Bardman profile page as archived

I have no personal issue with this member, but it wont fair for other participants. Even if you do not care about alt account joining the same campaign as long as they are great posters but it is not fair in this removal case.
Last but not least, good luck with the campaign. I'll keep the signature for my own benefit as I can use my referral link now on the signature.

[Questat]

I suggest for the rate to be not uniform, every rank should have different rate.

I guess the following rate would be competitive enough, you can already have a good poster that will be loyal to your campaign.

Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.

Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd

Why? And why did you stop at Hero? Because you're not Legendary and that rank doesn't effect you?

Oops, sorry, that should be Hero/Legendary.

[Astvile]

Are you paying on stake account or on users addresses?

If you are paying on users address and you add this address on the spreadsheet it will help to find abusers, some users use even 50 accounts here on the forum.

Steve is paying through the website,straight to our accounts.
Its real some even have hundreds and have a small time company in spamming sigs in this forum,the usage of direct bitcoin wallet payout will be useful to eliminate spam yes,its up to steve if he'll change the rules to that.

Why would someone be dumb enough use the same address multiple times on different accounts though?

It is not about being dumb to use same address on different accounts,we can easily caught them tracking their transfers like what other managers does on different altcoin bounties,trust me and people who are suggesting this,this will help alot

[2girls]

Personally, I feel that I was removed due to many of my recent(Months) posts getting deleted(Somewhere around 20) which was weird since I never felt post deletion was the primary barometer to judge a poster in this forum unless the number of posts being deleted are crazy high. Honestly, I had a great time working on this campaign promoting Stake and winning the contests regularly and don't have any qualms against anyone.

No my friend, I saw your post history and did not find anything to be Spam.  You were removed because this person reported some of the good posters even.

Name   Profile link   Merit   Rank   Posts Deleted
Catmurs   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406   1   Junior Member   127
Akshat21   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929411   1   Junior Member   110
Yatsan   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857883   40   Hero   94
lyks15   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126017   0   Full Member   93
okala   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108241   5   Full Member   64
furylmz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=983794   1   Senior   58
Carrelmae10   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181642   0   Member   56
Adriano2010   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514126   12   Hero   56
steampunkz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944644   18   Senior   54
LUCKMCFLY   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1153977   40   Full Member   51
mrdeposit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77867   3   Hero   45
blockman   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816893   13   Hero   42
xvids   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948175   13   Senior   42
cryptjh   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188761   23   Full Member   35
alisafidel58   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782621   26   Full Member   32
Haunebu   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218075   34   Hero   30
Bitinity   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=449846   56   Lendendary   29
CryptoBry   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=994859   39   Senior   29
Ximoandali   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628   1   Junior Member   28

all apparently in your campaign...

Last but not least, good luck with the campaign. I'll keep the signature for my own benefit as I can use my referral link now on the signature.

Sad to see those who were loyal to Stake being removed. This is a real loyal person that he will retain the signature even though he will not be paid per post.  

[n0ne]

I'm interested to hear some feedback from everyone on the recent changes to the Stake.com campaign!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0


What changes have been made? Official campaign member list?


Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)


Last week's total members - 125
Current total members - 27


Last week's total posts - 1521
Current total posts - A lot less


Last week's paid post limit - ∞
Current paid post limit - 30 (10 per day)


Last week's min character count - 25
Current character count - 100


Last week's min post requirement - 0
Current min post requirement - 0


Official campaign members list
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/127282xBJq5UtDH9vI8U96GNxBWN_3-3o-P6vTT44Fec/edit#gid=380619948



Let me know what you think and if I missed anything from being awake this long I'll then fix it when I wake up

Can we apply for the campaign further, or what's been stated in the opening post is the final list of the participants.

[owlcatz]

Can we apply for the campaign further, or what's been stated in the opening post is the final list of the participants.

IDK, but can you please re-upload your avatar, it looks messed up or something.

[Findingnemo]

Much convincing now,but make sure that how many total participants in your campaign or there any opening slots to be filled yet because I saw still people were applying on the signature campaign thread.

[n0ne]

Can we apply for the campaign further, or what's been stated in the opening post is the final list of the participants.

IDK, but can you please re-upload your avatar, it looks messed up or something.

This is the avatar that is added back when animated avatar is permitted. After that regulations came stating no more animated avatars allowed other than the one that were in use.

[owlcatz]

This is the avatar that is added back when animated avatar is permitted. After that regulations came stating no more animated avatars allowed other than the one that were in use.

Yes, I know. It hurts my eye-balls. I was just fucking with you bud.

[ChemicalSpillage]

America is putting pressure on all exchanges not to trade with its citizens. A behavior that is not appropriate for the crypto market ...

Stake excludes bounty hunter from his campaign, a longtime participant. Another inappropriate behavior ...

You're right ... I think we've overestimated you too much ...

Waah, waah. I'm entitled to my signature campaign peanuts!

You can be removed from a campaign for any reason. There's no "contract"... unless you think that Steve deserves a flag for violating it?

[erikalui]

The rates are OK now but I've noticed the contest bonus has been removed and still there are section limitations which make it difficult for users. Rest, it is a lot better than earlier terms but same pay for all users makes it unfair for Legendary members and more beneficial for member ranks as there is no limit on the number of participants that join. There would be many junior ranks joining this campaign due to the higher pay rate.

As per the spreadsheet, the number of participants has reduced from 132 to 28 which is a very good sign. Good luck!

Edit: Hope there is no payment link rule now as it's better to directly deposit the money in the users' account rather than make them claim it. Many time members may not be aware to claim the money. Had already notified you about the same but kindly consider it.

[suchmoon]

Waah, waah. I'm entitled to my signature campaign peanuts!

You can be removed from a campaign for any reason. There's no "contract"... unless you think that Steve deserves a flag for violating it?

I think the proper butthurt way of dealing with being fired from a campaign is to launch a frivolous scam accusation against the campaign manager. Let's hope Steve didn't move two similar Bitcoin amounts within the same month because that would be "proof" of something.

/s because I don't have one in my sig anymore.

[uneng]

Thanks for being part of this campaing for some weeks and for replying attentively all my questions during this time, I also extend this gratitude to other members who were in contact at some point.
With that said, I don't understand what is the reason behind the exclusion of so many campaign members: if posts quality was taken in consideration it makes no sense, as there are members who were kept on the campaign and have the same posts quality (or lower) than others who were removed.

The campaign manager has the right to remove anyone he wants or to follow the orders to remove from who he wants, but I have to point this observation, otherwise the few who were kept will be considered the excellent posters, while all the rest will be put on the same garbage can as junk, what isn't true and isn't fair.

[LTU_btc]

It's good move that you finally decided to clean-up campaign. I just want to add my 2 satoshis about your payment rates. I can't say that people now are complaining about higher payment rates, they just find it unusual that rates are same for every rank. My opinion why rates should be different for every rank:
Hero/Legendary members been here much longer than Jr. Members and it's likely that they have better knowledge about crypto and can make better posts. Offcourse, there are many lower ranked members who can make great posts and deserves to get paid well.
Hero/Legendary signatures are more effective than Jr. Member or Member. It's bigger, colourful and more visible. I have no doubts that these signatures gives much better results for advertiser and high ranked users are more beneficial for yur website.
But offcourse, you're the boss here and you decide what is best for your website. If I recall correctly, your campaign isn't first with same rates for all members. For example, Bitmixer campaign paid 0.0007 BTC per post for every rank. Only difference that they only accepted high ranked members starting with Sr. Mmember. Probably there was more campaigns, but I can't remember their names now.

[Findingnemo]

Hey Steve!
Do we have to re-apply to this campaign or you just kicked so many people from the spreadsheet?

From my knowledge most participants were kicked.

Not sure if you are one from them,you can ask about this in their signature campaign thread and hope there will be a reply.

[Patatas]

Unrealistic pay rate. All rank same rate isn't wise decision. All user experiences isn't same. However its depend on you how are you going to pay participants, we can't make comment about it.

So why are you commenting about it ? lol

It's so fuckin impossible to keep everyone happy at the same time. First, spam was the problem and now everyone is whining about the pay-rates. No one is forcing you to join the campaign if you don't like the rates or the rules move on. I like the new rules but the 100 minimum count should probably go away as that is not a clear indication of a good post.