Its not fair that yobit got banned

[FFrankie]

I thought this was supposed to be a decentralized fourm, but because the mass majority cannot offer rates as good as yobit signature campaign it leads to everyone switching to them, and posting a lot.


There ban is up in 8 days. I want to know what is to stop them from getting banned again.


Whats the difference between the spam from stake and the spam from yobit?

There wasnt even 48 hours given to yobit for them to ban the spammers.

[hilariousetc]

I thought this was supposed to be a decentralized fourm,

It's not. Never has been. It's a centralised forum with rules and anyone can be banned for breaking them.

There ban is up in 8 days. I want to know what is to stop them from getting banned again.

If the spam is the same then I'm sure they'll get another ban with a longer duration.

Whats the difference between the spam from stake and the spam from yobit?

Yobit spam was far more intense and has easily been the worst campaign the forum has seen for quite some time, but the damage they did in such a short amount of time was ridiculous. They had no manager at all and accepted anyone and as such it was quickly exploited. Stake isn't much better but I would support a Stake ban if they don't clean up their campaign asap.

[FFrankie]

There ban is up in 8 days. I want to know what is to stop them from getting banned again.

If the spam is the same then I'm sure they'll get another ban with a longer duration.

I am sure the spam will be the same, but if you do not give them 48 hours to ban the spammers from participating in the campaign how is that even fair?

I bet they bann people and the people don't even realize they are banned and still contirune to post

[AB de Royse777]

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Stake isn't much better but I would support a Stake ban if they don't clean up their campaign asap.

Lately they have taken the steps. They made a post in the reputation section about the update.
Stake.com Signature Campaign - A new kind of future New

[rosezionjohn]

How many weeks has it been since the Yobit sig campaign and its participants were banned?
That 20 posts per day for Yobit was just too much imo.
I don't know about Stake but I've seen many complaints already but their campaign manager recently asked for help to report spammers. That's probably one reason why it is still allowed.

[AdolfinWolf]

There ban is up in 8 days. I want to know what is to stop them from getting banned again.

If the spam is the same then I'm sure they'll get another ban with a longer duration.

I am sure the spam will be the same, but if you do not give them 48 hours to ban the spammers from participating in the campaign how is that even fair?

I bet they bann people and the people don't even realize they are banned and still contirune to post

Not really though. They didn’t communicate at all as far as i’m aware, and only ran a signature campaign to promote their IEO token spam.

They said they didn’t accept people with red trust, but somehow, they were still able to join, and atleast given the impression that they were getting paid for their posts (Although im pretty certain they were actually getting paid. See mdayonliners post history where he put up some screenshots of him getting paid (IIRC).)

Yobit added balance to their yobit account just like they did to non-redtrusted users.

[hilariousetc]

There ban is up in 8 days. I want to know what is to stop them from getting banned again.

If the spam is the same then I'm sure they'll get another ban with a longer duration.

I am sure the spam will be the same, but if you do not give them 48 hours to ban the spammers from participating in the campaign how is that even fair?

I bet they bann people and the people don't even realize they are banned and still contirune to post

Well I wasn't involved in the ban nor can I give them, but I agree they should be given a warning first and a grace period to sort things out and that's one of the things I included in the Signature Campaign Guidelines but they were never enforced. I think people did try to contact Yobit also but their account had been inactive for quite some time if I recall correctly (but I could be wrong).

~snip~
Stake isn't much better but I would support a Stake ban if they don't clean up their campaign asap.

Lately they have taken the steps. They made a post in the reputation section about the update.
Stake.com Signature Campaign - A new kind of future New

Yeah, I just saw that. Looks good so hopefully Steve can keep on top of things now.

They said they didn’t accept people with red trust, but somehow, they were still able to join, and atleast given the impression that they were getting paid for their posts (Although im pretty certain they were actually getting paid. See mdayonliners post history where he put up some screenshots of him getting paid (IIRC).)

Yobit added balance to their yobit account just like they did to non-redtrusted users.

Mday was proof that negative trust users were getting paid. It was pretty much open season when that campaign came back because anyone and everyone could sign up and that's why it was abused so quickly. I'm sure account farmers and multi-accounters also quickly took advantage and that's what happens when you have no active manager.

[Hhampuz]

They basically told people on their exchange (announcement via Twitter) to come here and spam for a few $.

They had no manager, they had no spreadsheets, they had nothing but a signature that users could put on and post away. No bueno and if they launch something like it again I hope they get a perma ban!

[suchmoon]

There wasnt even 48 hours given to yobit for them to ban the spammers.

I think it lasted for more than 48 hours. It started on April 19 and was banned on the 22nd. There were multiple threads about it. I know I was scraping the participant list and it was growing by the hour. It's not like they didn't know what they were doing. I even contacted Yobit to warn them about it, as I'm sure others did too. Yobit exhibited zero care.

In 3 days it grew to be far worse than Stake in 3 months but if Stake doesn't start managing their campaign properly they should be banned too. I still don't trust Steve's arrogant "look we're so nice we're doing something we should have done months ago" attitude.

[lobcmt2]

The fact is Yobit account was inactively in the forum for year, more than one year (not sure exactly how long that account was inactively). At the day Yobit campaign started, that account even was not actively again. Yobit only logged in the account when people complained about Yobit campaign, but interestingly there is no official announcement made by Yobit. They keep silently, and campaign announced in the forum by low rank account (Junior Member or even lower, maybe from community, and not from Yobit side). BPIP site is down, at the moment, but you can check later the day Yobit account woke up.

[owlcatz]

It's a shit exchange, I wish they would get hacked or just disappear. Shit coin heaven, just like Binance, IMO.... 

He should just ban all yobit sig campaigns here in the future and kill that stake.com bullshit as well...

[ChemicalSpillage]

There wasnt even 48 hours given to yobit for them to ban the spammers.

Spammers were banned because they had at least one good report against them, IIRC.

Are you seriously advocating for spam?

[UmerIdrees]

They basically told people on their exchange (announcement via Twitter) to come here and spam for a few $.

They had no manager, they had no spreadsheets, they had nothing but a signature that users could put on and post away. No bueno and if they launch something like it again I hope they get a perma ban!

I never understand one thing about Yobit.  They had so much money to pay reasonable rates to almost everyone who joins them. Why can't they spent some money to hire a proper manager from here and start their campaign. If they ever do so, considering the funds they have, it would be the biggest campaign i suppose.

[Hhampuz]

They basically told people on their exchange (announcement via Twitter) to come here and spam for a few $.

They had no manager, they had no spreadsheets, they had nothing but a signature that users could put on and post away. No bueno and if they launch something like it again I hope they get a perma ban!

I never understand one thing about Yobit.  They had so much money to pay reasonable rates to almost everyone who joins them. Why can't they spent some money to hire a proper manager from here and start their campaign. If they ever do so, considering the funds they have, it would be the biggest campaign i suppose.

It's simple, really. You get threads like these, as well as other threads about the issues with yobit and it's a never-ending circle of everyone here talking about yobit, knowing who yobit is and so on. From their perspective it is worth it, since they probably don't care 2 satoshi about their account here being banned or whatever. You can do it two ways, one is the yobit way and the other is a more serious approach but in the end the results will most likely be similar.

[examplens]

They basically told people on their exchange (announcement via Twitter) to come here and spam for a few $.

They had no manager, they had no spreadsheets, they had nothing but a signature that users could put on and post away. No bueno and if they launch something like it again I hope they get a perma ban!

I never understand one thing about Yobit.  They had so much money to pay reasonable rates to almost everyone who joins them. Why can't they spent some money to hire a proper manager from here and start their campaign. If they ever do so, considering the funds they have, it would be the biggest campaign i suppose.

It's simple, really. You get threads like these, as well as other threads about the issues with yobit and it's a never-ending circle of everyone here talking about yobit, knowing who yobit is and so on. From their perspective it is worth it, since they probably don't care 2 satoshi about their account here being banned or whatever. You can do it two ways, one is the yobit way and the other is a more serious approach but in the end the results will most likely be similar.

or the simplest. this is their way of doing business. Mess, not an essential quality, it does not matter whether one is fooled ... Just go on.
Much better marketing will be if they start to solve scam accusations against them. There are too many of them.

[mk4]

I never understand one thing about Yobit.  They had so much money to pay reasonable rates to almost everyone who joins them. Why can't they spent some money to hire a proper manager from here and start their campaign. If they ever do so, considering the funds they have, it would be the biggest campaign i suppose.

They pretty much went the quantity > quality route, which can also be very effective as far as I know. Sure, the posts from these spammers are definitely most likely to not be of quality, but as long as people are seeing their YoBit signature, then they've pretty much achieved their goal. I'm going to argue that while it's a shitty move, it actually could probably be more beneficial for the platform to run a campaign this way(in the short term), rather than doing it like how most long-running campaigns do it.

[Findingnemo]

Atleast stake had proper signature campaign thread and someone called manager so if there is an issue it can be addressed to the respective person but yobit doesn't had any so people keep joining even their rules are not much strictly followed that is why admin banned the signature for 60 days.

[UmerIdrees]

It's simple, really. You get threads like these, as well as other threads about the issues with yobit and it's a never-ending circle of everyone here talking about yobit, knowing who yobit is and so on. From their perspective it is worth it, since they probably don't care 2 satoshi about their account here being banned or whatever. You can do it two ways, one is the yobit way and the other is a more serious approach but in the end the results will most likely be similar.

The results may not be similar in both cases.  If people talking bad about Yobit, not many people will actually start using their site. They may gain attention but in a negative way. No one will be eager to actually trade on Yobit when they see so much negativity about them.

They pretty much went the quantity > quality route, which can also be very effective as far as I know. Sure, the posts from these spammers are definitely most likely to not be of quality, but as long as people are seeing their YoBit signature, then they've pretty much achieved their goal. I'm going to argue that while it's a shitty move, it actually could probably be more beneficial for the platform to run a campaign this way(in the short term), rather than doing it like how most long-running campaigns do it.

Ok, they need quantity ?  That can be done by hiring 100 - 200 people with proper trusted manager. Win Win situation for everyone...  Quantity + Quality

[Quickseller]

It’s not fair they were able to take advantage of the forum by causing massive amounts of spammers to create nonsense posts in masse to advertise their business, harming the community in the process.

[Csmiami]

It actually could probably be more beneficial for the platform to run a campaign this way(in the short term).

It may work with airdroppers that only want to make a quick buck dumping their shitcoins, but to atract any "important"/sensible user, they should start resolving their support tickets once in a while (I have an unanswered one since March 2018 as an example)