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June 14, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
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I would highly recommend that you stop trading with
@TradeSatoshi
 If your account info is even slightly incorrect, you lose everything.

They say: Sorry at the moment we don't cater User's updating their information.



So you cant get your account verified, therefore you cant trade or withdraw your crypto, what a great way to scam people.


If your suffering the same issues, please retweet this and tag @tradesatoshi 

https://twitter.com/notnormalscom/status/1139608432019943426

I can't as I have been blocked for speaking out.


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June 14, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
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there is a cases similar to yours, see:

Tradesatoshi - BEWARE! Blocking without reasons.

Hi.
Beware! They can block your account at any time without any reasons!

I was using Tradesatoshi for trading on one single coin pair for about 3-4 months. To be honest, my real trades were months ago. And last 2 months i had only orders for sale, because the price fall and i was waiting for the devs to launch MNs. So all i did - was checking from time to time the price on the trading pair.
And two days ago, i have logged into my account and got the message:

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Dear user please update your KYC details here

    You can update your KYC by update following documents
        A scan of your photo ID
        A selfie of your holding the photo ID
    Your Account must be match with that Id.

All trading actions, balance, withdrawals were blocked. Even the link to the support from inside account! lol
I logged off the account and wrote the support request about this situation. Got a standard reply:
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10.03.2019, 03:51, "Tradesatoshi" <donniediamante@tradesatoshi.com>:
> Dear user,
>
> We apply the KYC procedure when we detect suspicious transactions on a client's account to make sure the funds are safe and that it's not being used for fraudulent activity. It's a common practice for the financial institution.
>
> Kind regards,
> MOD Donnie

I replied them by mail and asked to provide the evidence of  fraudulent activity or suspicious transactions, or to return my balance. After that my mail address was blocked in their support service - was trying to send another support request and got this:
https://i.imgur.com/eZV1bAi.png
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Something went wrong...
problem to surviving your request.
Tried with another mail address - the support request passed through! lol

KYC was not mandatory when i was creating my account months ago. If it was mandatory i wouldn't start trading there, cause i don't want to provide my personal data to every third-rate exchange.

Moreover, if you have registered previously with a not real name: Crypto Johnny, for example - you won't be able to edit it in your profile (fields are locked: https://i.imgur.com/djgfu8O.png), so even if you will provide KYC-info it won't match with your account. So they can still deny you because: "Your Account must be match with that Id" (see above).


Tradesatoshi is a typical third-rate exchange with unknown staff behind it and questionable origin (dissolved in UK). Giving them your ID info just to trade one shitcoin to another or to btc at best (cause they don't have fiat) is not smart.

So, you see now, that you can lose access to your funds at any time.
I'm posting all this to let users withdraw their funds prior blocking and not to end up hostages of the situation. But to decide freely whether they want to pass a KYC-check or not!
Wish you luck and good trades!


update: All this thing with the problems while creating support tickets happened due to the blatant lack of professionalism of the Tradesatoshi-staff, which along with the trading tools have blocked for users the ability to create support tickets from inside their accounts:


update: check this, peeps, it's a mass blocking of accounts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118992.msg50219603#msg50219603

update: How does look the exchange, which is suddenly rising the BTC withdrawal fee to the insane amount - 400 000 sat? Yes, it is Traidsatoshi. Just prior to the KYC-check. Binance takes 50K sat, Traidsatoshi - 400K, lol. Did they want to force users leave more BTC on their balances to the time when KYC started? The more BTC on the frozen balance - the greater the incentive for users to accept the KYC. Or just greediness? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118992.msg50245384#msg50245384

update: Traidsatoshi got scared and changed the fees, trying to calm users.  Use it, may be it won't last long.

update: Traidsatoshi had never intended to make and had not made any notifications prior KYC-check started:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118992.msg50312332#msg50312332

update Just one very illustrative dialog from Traidsatoshi discord-channel, which shows what problems users have now, and the lies of tradesatoshi staff. Read it:


update: Another scam-technic from Tradesatoshi! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118992.msg50347951#msg50347951

update: New Tradesatoshi "low withdrawal fees" for BTC are working amazing:





Be ready to pay more, than before, lol!

update: A very good point:
The main problems with this exchange have to do with the fact that they are not accountable to anybody for anything. They aren't a registered business, they don't have any sort of licensing, and nobody knows where the owners or operators are located.

They started demanding KYC from all users after their company was dissolved, which is beyond weird. If they're not a real company, why do they need KYC? They aren't reporting to any government, they're not paying taxes; they're just a rogue operation who depend on either the loyalty of their user base (rapidly dissipating) or the naivete of new users to keep them going.

TradeSatoshi is down to $46k in trading volume per 24 hours; at a 0.1% fee this means they are only making $46 per day on trading fees. As huge withdrawal fees wasn't working in their favor, I believe they had to resort to the sudden KYC-for-everybody manuver as means to generate additional revenue. Plus, as I mentioned before, reputable exchanges don't use this as an excuse to with-hold customer funds and block them out of their accounts, even if it says they could according to their terms and conditions.

Its just bad business all the way around and potential users need to be warned about their practices.

and other case:

TradeSatoshi locking out users to steal funds?



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June 14, 2019, 10:09:37 PM
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Now we now have three threads for this exchange and I hope traders are looking on this section to know that Tradesatoshi is now a scam exchange I guess competition is beating them, that they have no recourse but to get as many coins in their platform and do an exit scam.

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June 15, 2019, 12:24:10 AM
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Infuriating. Why can't all those you have their funds held up in that exchange come together and take legal action against the company? Whatever the case, the company will start refunding your money or stop scamming more users. The court will be in your favor. Governments these days don't leave a chance to crack on such exchanges.
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June 15, 2019, 07:49:09 AM
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I don't know how an exchange take this kind of step if they don't want to scam people's. Suddenly asking KYC verification and disable withdrawal without KYC verification is clear symptom of scam users. They should implement withdrawal limit for Unverified user and it should continue at least couple of week and they should notice their user about thei KYC verification.

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June 15, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
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Look where speaking out gets you. Can't say I am surprised. But I am disgusted with their scamming ways. 

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June 15, 2019, 11:57:26 AM
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Look where speaking out gets you. Can't say I am surprised. But I am disgusted with their scamming ways. 
Are they planning to do an exit scam? You should probably spread the word around to all your friends/online groups about this and ask them to withdraw the funds as soon as possible. From the links Slow Death mentioned above, it looks like the typical exchange exit scam. If I was you, I'd spread the word around and make sure people withdraw their funds.
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June 15, 2019, 08:10:30 PM
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I don't know how an exchange take this kind of step if they don't want to scam people's. Suddenly asking KYC verification and disable withdrawal without KYC verification is clear symptom of scam users. They should implement withdrawal limit for Unverified user and it should continue at least couple of week and they should notice their user about thei KYC verification.
Every exchange will implement KYC requirement one by one, as crypto is moving completely towards centralization.

I think this is the only way left for exchanges to handle the KYC thing, block users funds > ask for KYC > if yes, OK > if not, permablock.
If an exchange want then they can provide options for users to choose, but it is not they forcefully want users to perform KYC. The world is not free.

If I recall correctly then bittrex made the biggest noise about this KYC thing... now it's cold like ice.
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June 16, 2019, 08:38:00 AM
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I don't know how an exchange take this kind of step if they don't want to scam people's. Suddenly asking KYC verification and disable withdrawal without KYC verification is clear symptom of scam users. They should implement withdrawal limit for Unverified user and it should continue at least couple of week and they should notice their user about thei KYC verification.
Every exchange will implement KYC requirement one by one, as crypto is moving completely towards centralization.

I think this is the only way left for exchanges to handle the KYC thing, block users funds > ask for KYC > if yes, OK > if not, permablock.
If an exchange want then they can provide options for users to choose, but it is not they forcefully want users to perform KYC. The world is not free.

If I recall correctly then bittrex made the biggest noise about this KYC thing... now it's cold like ice.

I understand that, but its the way they just did it without warning and without any option to correct. My mistake is simple 1 number wrong in my date of birth, I must have missed the correct key, yes my fault. However, they refuse to correct it so I can pass KYC. That is wrong!
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June 16, 2019, 07:11:59 PM
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I understand that, but its the way they just did it without warning and without any option to correct. My mistake is simple 1 number wrong in my date of birth, I must have missed the correct key, yes my fault. However, they refuse to correct it so I can pass KYC. That is wrong!
There is something called "investigation", if they were honest then they could have investigated the case instead of blocking a user account at the first place.
It's most likely every exchange has user's IP, email id record and these can be used to investigate and identify the real user and then they could have allowed you for KYC.

But their answer "Sorry at the moment we don't cater User's updating their information." doesn't prove they are professional and trustworthy.

I hope you haven't lost much there.

Let your INSN community know about the issue and warn them, post it in discord and TG.
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January 12, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
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As i remember there are many scam accusation already in this exchange . And only few users use that exchange for many reasons like listing many shitcoins/ scam coins etc. So no need to make another scam accusation about this and this exchange is only waiting for the right time to close thier exchange since there are only few users.

You just bumped a thread that had been dormant for 7 months... All so you could tell OP his thread is unnecessary?  Huh

Unfortunately, Trade Satoshi is still around, though they only handle about 2 BTC a day in volume. There's no way this could still be a profitable undertaking other than through weaseling customers out of funds using any one of their well-documented fleecing tactics.

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January 12, 2020, 02:00:13 PM
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As i remember there are many scam accusation already in this exchange . And only few users use that exchange for many reasons like listing many shitcoins/ scam coins etc. So no need to make another scam accusation about this and this exchange is only waiting for the right time to close thier exchange since there are only few users.

You just bumped a thread that had been dormant for 7 months... All so you could tell OP his thread is unnecessary?  Huh


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February 21, 2020, 10:08:39 AM
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Hello everyone as you now in last months TradeSatoshi stop withdraw at different coins making difficult for user to withdraw their money.
But newer they have a new practice lock people account and never restore .

I know are a lot of people with this problem and this is the reason i open this post and someone need to make something
 against them or will leave with people money .


I want to collect all users story about how they have been scam by this site and after that i will open a complaint at police about this
even need to be opened in 3 states .

All person are free to send his story at this email : bestsiteptc2011@gmail.com

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