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June 16, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
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Topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154016.20

Clearly looking at the newbies posting in thread after 40 minutes clearly indicates their intentions. Moreover the syndication which promotes bump services often have newbies with 1 Merits so that they can spam threads and participate in mass in twitter and facebook campaigns.

Reviews containing more than 300 characters will have an advantage or bonus points? Of course, high-quality content with a detailed and thorough description.
Many characters are nice, but will there be any sense in it, that is another question Smiley

What exchanges do you plan to visit in the future? After all, one can not do, you need to expand your boundaries

What exchanges do you plan to visit in the future? After all, one can not do, you need to expand your boundaries
I am also interested in this issue, because it is necessary to create a demand for the token, as well as to popularize it as much as possible.


Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
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Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

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June 16, 2019, 09:37:46 AM
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I hate these guys (the bumping service). I'm pretty sure all accounts are controlled by 1 person, and he has 40-50 different accounts that he bumps different threads with.

In March I made a list of all of them and the projects they bump, but he's since added dozens of new accounts and is spamming for new projects.

He manages to skirt the forum rules by posting under different accounts but really this is simply mass spamming. All of his accounts should be banned. Some day when I have a bit more time I'm going to make a new thread mentioning all the account names he controls, along with the project he was paid to bump, and then add to it from time to time. This kind of behavior needs to be discouraged.

Here's a post where I mention some of the accounts bumping Revain and the other projects they bump:

Hello, thank you for your feedback!

We are really concerned about what you said. Can you please give us more details in PM? Why do you think this are bots and they are connected to this bumping service? Because they all have the same time?

I'll just give you the details here so everybody understands what I'm talking about.

These accounts:







and now (after I left my comment warning what was happening)



all post in the same threads as they are part of a thread bumping service for hire. They are all run by the same person. Threads they post in (have been hired by) include:

CryptoMania Slots
AZBIT - Blockchain Investment Banking
Verasity - Attention-Based Platform for Video Rewards
AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange
YPTOSpace 🔥🔥🔥 A global ecosystem around Cryptocurrency!
TeleCoin - annonymous p2p cryptocurrency]

Take a look at each thread. You will see the same accounts in all 5 projects mindlessly talking to each other with one or two lines replies, asking meaningless questions and then answering themselves.

Look at this last example. You can see when they stopped paying for spammers (excuse me, I mean "thread bumpers") around June 1st and the project manager just starts bumping the thread by themselves.

Maybe nobody informed you but somebody within your project hired a service to bump your thread. This kind of behavior not only encourages spam on the forum but is indicative of a less-than-honest project that has to resort to creating artificial buzz to boost its visibility.

To be honest with you, its a tactic primarily used by scammers. Which is why I warn people from investing in projects that hire them. It's a telltale sign that something is wrong with a project.

Just for fun, here's one account that forgot what thread he was in and started asking questions about a media hosting project when he was in an exchange project thread:

hi guys, tell me, what are the main advantages of AMANPURI? How can you compete with such a giant as YouTube?

I guess running 40-50 different accounts can be confusing sometimes.

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June 18, 2019, 03:45:04 PM
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Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
Ref: https://i.imgur.com/uUVR12m.png

Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

Sorry, but this is fake. Do you like to spread false accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153191.0
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June 18, 2019, 04:02:35 PM
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Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
Ref: https://i.imgur.com/uUVR12m.png

Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

Sorry, but this is fake. Do you like to spread false accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153191.0

Every project has BS Telegram followers, that's nothing new, and I would never tag a project for that.

But in the future, don't consider hiring bump bots. Its pathetic.

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June 19, 2019, 01:28:38 PM
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Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
Ref: https://i.imgur.com/uUVR12m.png

Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

Sorry, but this is fake. Do you like to spread false accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153191.0
i really don't wanna spread false information about you. You in-fact is using such services. Your telegram group i filled with spam and your bounty thread is being bumped by newbies and Jr.Member with 1 Merits.

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June 19, 2019, 02:04:57 PM
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Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
Ref: https://i.imgur.com/uUVR12m.png

Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

Sorry, but this is fake. Do you like to spread false accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153191.0
i really don't wanna spread false information about you. You in-fact is using such services. Your telegram group i filled with spam and your bounty thread is being bumped by newbies and Jr.Member with 1 Merits.

But you are spreading it, without even any proof. What do you mean by 'Your telegram group i filled with spam'?
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June 19, 2019, 02:10:56 PM
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Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
Ref: https://i.imgur.com/uUVR12m.png

Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

Sorry, but this is fake. Do you like to spread false accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153191.0
i really don't wanna spread false information about you. You in-fact is using such services. Your telegram group i filled with spam and your bounty thread is being bumped by newbies and Jr.Member with 1 Merits.

But you are spreading it, without even any proof. What do you mean by 'Your telegram group i filled with spam'?
I really dont want to defame your project, the only thing that i wanna say is please stop using shit services like bumping and forcing people to write reviews  on your platform. I just saw some guy called Anirudh from India is writing 40 reviews in just 4 days. Do you think these kind of Activities will ever be fruitful? That guy would never write any review on your platform if you had not given him money to spam on your platform. I bet i can get pirated reviews written on your platform. There are plenty of reviews which are copied from world class blogs and jotted on your platform. I can point them.

Please try to understand the context in OP.

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June 19, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
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Even in past Revain has a history of inviting fake followers to telegram so that numbers make it obvious that they are well enough trusted in network.
Ref: https://i.imgur.com/uUVR12m.png

Tag from Lauda: REVAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064640.0) is a dishonest/SCAM project. Hired Telegram fraudulent marketing group and spam inviting everyone -> only fake users. Avoid like the plague.

Sorry, but this is fake. Do you like to spread false accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153191.0
i really don't wanna spread false information about you. You in-fact is using such services. Your telegram group i filled with spam and your bounty thread is being bumped by newbies and Jr.Member with 1 Merits.

But you are spreading it, without even any proof. What do you mean by 'Your telegram group i filled with spam'?
I really dont want to defame your project, the only thing that i wanna say is please stop using shit services like bumping and forcing people to write reviews  on your platform. I just saw some guy called Anirudh from India is writing 40 reviews in just 4 days. Do you think these kind of Activities will ever be fruitful? That guy would never write any review on your platform if you had not given him money to spam on your platform. I bet i can get pirated reviews written on your platform. There are plenty of reviews which are copied from world class blogs and jotted on your platform. I can point them.

Please try to understand the context in OP.

We have a totally fair competition called 'author of the month' where people are writing reviews on projects/exchanges on Revain. Nothing wrong with that. We always ban copied reviews after the competition ends. We don't need unoriginal content on the platform. So, I don't understand your complaints.
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June 20, 2019, 04:56:20 AM
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But you are spreading it, without even any proof. What do you mean by 'Your telegram group i filled with spam'?

How about instead of avoiding the accusation altogether, let's address the problem here which is the fact that you guys either a) have your own shills on bitcointalk or b) have hired a thread bumping service in order to obtain a dishonest advantage which is against forum rules?

Literally, your bounties thread is kept alive by accounts that all have similar generic post histories, commenting repetitive replies over and over again. I don't see how you can deny that and say this is not a result of using a service to bump up your thread. There is virtually no organic engagement coming to your thread.

Nutilda and OP both have solid cases against you. There is no reason for them to "defame" you, they are simply speaking the truth.

Address the issues that are important please.

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June 21, 2019, 08:51:34 AM
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Nice replies on revain bounty main thread:

How can I know more about your project?

company.revain.org

Low-quality content will be filtered by Artificial Intelligence. This is one of the features of the Revain platform. AI will not accept your post,if you take part in Revain bounty. Wink

Too bad there's nothing on the forum to stop your low-quality content.

These accounts are all part of the same bumping service, all run by the same person:

Irina1999
Fomin-oilL
Godyae
Sawras
VerDinr
esofelap
Valeriiko
Sapchene
Bugatti73
Buzlov
Katrin_Veron

Like really, how dumb do you have to be to not see what's going on here? There's almost no traffic on this page other than that hired by Revain. It's a stupid practice, a sign of a project that gave up hope actually succeeding on its own merits.

We checked, nobody hired anyone. But you are still showing up in every thread related to Revain with your 'investigations' Grin and with every day it feels more and more like you are get paid by spreading this fake acussations, not anyone else.

I'm not accusing you of anything, it's just your behavior feels weird Smiley

Well, I'm accusing you of lying about hiring thread bumpers. These accounts don't comment on the same threads out of their own free will. They are paid to generate fake buzz around a project. After I pointed out to you that your project had hired professional spammers, they ceased commenting in the ANN thread and started commenting in this one.

Its an extremely cheeseball tactic, symbolic of a mediocre project (or scam), and you deserve to be ridiculed for hiring such low grade professional spam artists.

Look for yourself: not a single post in your ANN thread after June 15th.

You created this thread on June 14th, and the spammers followed you here.

BTW I'm not following you around so much as I'm following them around. Average forum members need to be warned when a cheeseball bumping service has been hired. As I've explained before, its a hallmark sign of a dishonest project.

Whatever you say. I'm not wasting any more time replying to you.

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June 21, 2019, 10:57:51 AM
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LOL. My eyes must have skipped over their last comment.

To be fair to them I was a bit of an a-hole.

But the fact remains: they hired a thread bumping service to promote their project.

As I pointed out in my comment, the same spammers-for-hire started bumping the new bounty thread after I had pointed out to them they were bumping their ANN thread. All activity on the ANN thread has stopped.

What's annoying is all these bumper accounts are owned by the same person (they are all located in the same time zone and have the same style of writing), so essentially they are thread spamming and getting away with it by using multiple accounts. Lame.

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LOL. My eyes must have skipped over their last comment.

To be fair to them I was a bit of an a-hole.

But the fact remains: they hired a thread bumping service to promote their project.

As I pointed out in my comment, the same spammers-for-hire started bumping the new bounty thread after I had pointed out to them they were bumping their ANN thread. All activity on the ANN thread has stopped.

What's annoying is all these bumper accounts are owned by the same person (they are all located in the same time zone and have the same style of writing), so essentially they are thread spamming and getting away with it by using multiple accounts. Lame.
I wonder whats makes you soft hearted for the Revain official account after their such comments where they refuse to reply to seriois topics which bothers us most.

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June 21, 2019, 01:31:30 PM
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Whatever you say. I'm not wasting any more time replying to you.

It's obvious that Revain realizes they've run out of arguments to put forth.

They know fully well what they are doing in terms of breaking forum rules, etc., and it seems like at this point they're just trying to decrease the amount of negative publicity that this issue is causing by diverging attention to other irrelevant issues, as I stated before.

The damage has been done on their forum reputation, and most likely, they're just hoping that newbies fall into their trap nonetheless.

As I pointed out in my comment, the same spammers-for-hire started bumping the new bounty thread after I had pointed out to them they were bumping their ANN thread. All activity on the ANN thread has stopped.

What's annoying is all these bumper accounts are owned by the same person (they are all located in the same time zone and have the same style of writing), so essentially they are thread spamming and getting away with it by using multiple accounts. Lame.

The evidence should be apparent to anyone with a brain. It's a shame that these bumpers are unfairly elevating certain shady projects in their position, but all we can do is report their posts and how mods handle them.

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June 21, 2019, 01:55:47 PM
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You can easily tell that they are using bump service none of them has a signature campaign, some signature campaign does not allow posting on the announcement thread and all of the posts are newbies and junior members, all of them praising the projects to high heavens

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