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June 17, 2019, 12:13:14 AM
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So I'm sure this isn't the most original thought ever but I'm going to ask anyway.

I drive to work everyday with my Chevy spark EV which has a 19kw battery and my work charges my car for free everyday. I only commute within 10 miles so I always have about 85% charge left when I get home.

Is there anyway to power my mining rig with my car during the evening and simply go to work the next day and recharge my car so I can repeat the process and save some energy at my home.

Thanks.
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June 17, 2019, 12:53:22 AM
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So I'm sure this isn't the most original thought ever but I'm going to ask anyway.

I drive to work everyday with my Chevy spark EV which has a 19kw battery and my work charges my car for free everyday. I only commute within 10 miles so I always have about 85% charge left when I get home.

Is there anyway to power my mining rig with my car during the evening and simply go to work the next day and recharge my car so I can repeat the process and save some energy at my home.

Thanks.

Unless you have permission to do this  from your boss it amounts to a theft.

So in effect:

You are asking is it possible to rob my company?

Yeah you can rob your company.

But it is a crime to do so.

So I won't explain how to do it.





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June 17, 2019, 02:40:20 AM
Last edit: June 17, 2019, 09:36:49 AM by JaredKaragen
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So I'm sure this isn't the most original thought ever but I'm going to ask anyway.

I drive to work everyday with my Chevy spark EV which has a 19kw battery and my work charges my car for free everyday. I only commute within 10 miles so I always have about 85% charge left when I get home.

Is there anyway to power my mining rig with my car during the evening and simply go to work the next day and recharge my car so I can repeat the process and save some energy at my home.

Thanks.

Unless you have permission to do this  from your boss it amounts to a theft.

So in effect:

You are asking is it possible to rob my company?

Yeah you can rob your company.

But it is a crime to do so.

So I won't explain how to do it.


Phil is right;  also note:

a 500W miner;  will suck .5Kw/hr.     figure out how many KWH your battery pack is.... you will see how much time you will get....  (typically you can just subtract 15-25% time for conversion losses as a good estimate for using battery power like you want to)

The amount of battery, and constant current needed will probably be a huge strain on your vehicle battery.... and you will end up paying for it in repair/replacement costs in the future.


The amount of battery I would need to have a 1600W power draw myself;  is pretty substantial to be able to have power for even half a day... that's 19.2KWH for the half day.....

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June 17, 2019, 06:46:44 AM
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So I guess we are near the top since history is repeating itself and people are wanting to mine with their EV.

Reminds me of Q4 2017 when reading this article,
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/17/11/28/2148257/tesla-owners-are-mining-bitcoins-with-free-power-from-charging-stations

This article actually prevented me from buying more GPUs since it seemed like the top was near, and it was a pretty good leading indicator.

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June 17, 2019, 03:14:58 PM
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I wouldn't go through with it, looks like its way too much trouble to to make a few bucks a day plus investing in a good inverter would make this venture more mostly than anything.
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June 17, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
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So I'm sure this isn't the most original thought ever but I'm going to ask anyway.

I drive to work everyday with my Chevy spark EV which has a 19kw battery and my work charges my car for free everyday. I only commute within 10 miles so I always have about 85% charge left when I get home.

Is there anyway to power my mining rig with my car during the evening and simply go to work the next day and recharge my car so I can repeat the process and save some energy at my home.

Thanks.


not only is it too much trouble but it doesn't speak well of you and it also tags you a thief that wants to rob your company.don't do that instead go with what you can afford

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June 17, 2019, 08:32:54 PM
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So I'm sure this isn't the most original thought ever but I'm going to ask anyway.

I drive to work everyday with my Chevy spark EV which has a 19kw battery and my work charges my car for free everyday. I only commute within 10 miles so I always have about 85% charge left when I get home.

Is there anyway to power my mining rig with my car during the evening and simply go to work the next day and recharge my car so I can repeat the process and save some energy at my home.

Thanks.


Am not that religious but I like my reputation clean, if you do this it will not only make you a thief but if company finds out you will also lose your job

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June 17, 2019, 10:08:19 PM
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LoL I love this thread full of holier-than-thou specimens... Lecturing others on the morals of what they should or shouldn't do whilst most likely not declaring the majority of their mining profits themselves... Grin
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June 18, 2019, 12:51:55 AM
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OP;  do the math as per my example above;  you will realize that it will greatly impact your battery life, and you wont get much out of it in the end for what you will be spending in the long run... not to mention making sure that the pack won't also have overheating problems when the vehicle is turned off and having such a heavy power draw.  Some EV's have always ready to work cooling fans on the battery, most only when running/driving or charging, and some use liquid cooling.

Free electricity is free electricity;  no need to start throwing assumptions around the board and trailing off-topic....   Phil's comment pretty much summed it up.

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June 18, 2019, 03:24:10 PM
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I'm over the whole mining with my EV power question. Seem's to have raised morality concerns.


But now I am curious,


I have a co worker who also has a EV at work and receives free charge everyday and does door dash part time with his car. would he be in the wrong for using the power supplied to his EV car to do another activity which he benefits financially on EV battery that has been charge by the company?  not paying for his own ev battery charge, etc.


There isn't alot of oversight when it comes to the charging stations, if you have a EV, you come up to the parking lot, charge during the shift and leave. The question is does it matter what you do with your EV battery after you leave?

I'm not trying to argue back, I just find the entire thing in a gray area.
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June 18, 2019, 04:03:37 PM
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I'm over the whole mining with my EV power question. Seem's to have raised morality concerns.


But now I am curious,


I have a co worker who also has a EV at work and receives free charge everyday and does door dash part time with his car. would he be in the wrong for using the power supplied to his EV car to do another activity which he benefits financially on EV battery that has been charge by the company?  not paying for his own ev battery charge, etc.


There isn't alot of oversight when it comes to the charging stations, if you have a EV, you come up to the parking lot, charge during the shift and leave. The question is does it matter what you do with your EV battery after you leave?

I'm not trying to argue back, I just find the entire thing in a gray area.

morals and legality are two distinctly different concepts.

If you work gives you a free charge everyday as a benefit to employment; its been given to you; as long as that cable charging you is only charging your car to full as per the agreement seems the most rational stance.

If you charge your car on their dime without consent, or have machines hooked up to purposefully siphon more than a full charge;  that is considered the theft part.

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June 18, 2019, 06:53:04 PM
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You'll end up thrashing your battery, and you never said what the 120V outlet in the car is rated or. 10 Amps? 5? It isn't meant to have a mining rig run off of it. Don't bother OP
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June 18, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
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First find out what the power limit on the battery is (19kW/h doesn't tell me if that's the capacity or power delivery. Usually it means the capacity))
Volt x Ampèere(max) = Watt/hour. (deduct at least 10% of that)
Do you even get 500Watt?
Do you need a step-up / step-down to deliver the right amount of Volt to the PSU?
If so, buy or build one.
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June 18, 2019, 08:56:11 PM
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LoL I love this thread full of holier-than-thou specimens... Lecturing others on the morals of what they should or shouldn't do whilst most likely not declaring the majority of their mining profits themselves... Grin
Telling about moral opinions is much easier and i bet some of them arent really miners  Grin

For OP,precise replies is already mentioned so theres nothing to repeat about.

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June 19, 2019, 05:52:41 AM
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You'll end up thrashing your battery, and you never said what the 120V outlet in the car is rated or. 10 Amps? 5? It isn't meant to have a mining rig run off of it. Don't bother OP

You actually won't believe how long EV batteries can last. I don't know which car the OP has but I am guessing its a Tesla.

They got around 40,000 charge cycles and after 160,000 miles they still have 90% capacity. They can actually last for 500,000 miles. Most likely the rest of the car will fall apart before the batteries go.

How many people do you know that keep a car for 160,000 miles? Not many. Most cars don't even make it 160,000 miles with multiple owners throughout its lifetime.

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June 19, 2019, 08:37:44 AM
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LoL I love this thread full of holier-than-thou specimens... Lecturing others on the morals of what they should or shouldn't do whilst most likely not declaring the majority of their mining profits themselves... Grin

Oh stop. You've been here since 2013. You remember those idiots who tried to mine using their school's computers and either lost their job or were even prosecuted. OP asked for it by opening his/her mouth. A lecture would have been if some people went on a diatribe about not stealing - something ones parents should be doing.

I barely have 1 rig running nowadays so minimal "profit" for me but blatant theft is never right.
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