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June 21, 2019, 11:36:11 AM Last edit: June 21, 2019, 04:23:16 PM by ICOEthics Merited by Foxpup (4), bones261 (2), TalkStar (1) |
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What happened:*** This is not a scam accusation*** Possible FAKE TEAM, possible stealing people's identity Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2604523 Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146925.0 Archive: https://archive.is/21GtM - page 1 Archive: https://archive.is/LbZFH - page 2 Website: https://morphene.io/ Archive: UNABLE TO ARCHIVE - someone please archive The "CEO" is arrogant and likes to call people names, he refuses to provide links to the team members profile, a video or new images to validate the team. Typical scammer attitude. We found a few " team member's" profile, but there is nothing about the project. One team member has a different last name and she just posts about food on her social media accounts. If they are able to provide video we will remove this accusation. TEAM: = CARTOONS/DRAWINGS ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9nNkBUG.jpg&t=665&c=76fSDUUuCyLbyg) The CEO uploaded images (stolen?) He said he was going to provide new images, but is taking him almost 1 month. Photoshoot lined up for this week ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwpbieUG.jpg&t=665&c=ypMopkLJQZHk5Q) The excuse about the lighting is a typical excuse that we hear very often from scammers. And yeah, the image was taken from a broken iPhone in poor lighting. As I said. The professional pictures are being processed...
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmbwQZ49.jpg&t=665&c=Z86602wj9CBseQ) This other team member below just posts about food on her twitter account and she has a different last name on their website. (family connection? stolen images?) ~...That Twitter account appears to be compromised. Linda does not use Twitter. Thanks for the heads up. Will handle that with her...
But he didnt answer about her Instagram account. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLP1DKJR.jpg&t=665&c=cE1D6YQAVLTUvA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeXp3kGL.jpg&t=665&c=mQWySBRqORELDw) And this other "team member" has nothing on his profile about this project. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FouXcrQF.jpg&t=665&c=yUhQwlmjJAcqfA)
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June 21, 2019, 12:37:03 PM |
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At the bottom of their website I noticed the boondevelopments.com link: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FPfb1WVLC%2Fboon.png&t=665&c=iTWbjrEK2fI0YA) Maybe that will help your investigation. Good work again ICOEthics.
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June 21, 2019, 06:07:05 PM Last edit: June 21, 2019, 07:57:10 PM by TalkStar |
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Every real crypto project should use real team pictures for investors satisfaction and projects legality too. Honestly this projects isn't looking trustworthy in my eyes. From your investigation its clear to me that this guys are trying to hide their real identity and that's why they are providing fake team members pictures IMO.Its pretty much simple that they have bad intention behind their project and its really alarming for investors too.
Tagged from my end and waiting to see their real team members video clips for the final decision. Excellent investigation ICOEthics as always. Keep it up mate.
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June 21, 2019, 11:54:23 PM |
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For some reason the website is impossible to archive. Tried both Archive.org or Archive.is but they all seem not to work. Do you think this was done intentionally by the website creator?
The team thing and the "CEO" look fishy as hell to me
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June 27, 2019, 04:31:32 AM |
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For some reason the website is impossible to archive. Tried both Archive.org or Archive.is but they all seem not to work. Do you think this was done intentionally by the website creator?
The team thing and the "CEO" look fishy as hell to me
If you cannot manage to archive the page, that is hardly my problem. ICO(NO)Ethics, if you want to check the page now, there are some new headshots of our team, clearly all taken in the same location. Of course, Chris couldn't make it so I have reused his previous photo listed in this thread. He will be getting an updated headshot soon. (Thank you for not instantly saying Chris looks like me due to familial relations -- that always bothered me growing up for some reason) So, pray tell, what is more likely ... identity theft and scam, or a new team with a product they created theirselves based off an existing library with a brand new idea, application, and business plan? Could you update your "scam accusation" thread and admit that identity theft is obviously unlikely, you revoke your baseless claims, admit wrongdoing, admit to pursuing the entire Morphene project in bad faith, and move on? --- Again, like I told you before, since it is clear you have been jilted in ICOs for whatever greed or ignorance you possess, I do pity your misfortune. It sucks to hear that people are constantly getting scammed in crypto because it makes ALL of our lives harder. ESPECIALLY underfunded, open source, small startup projects that have spent the majority of their time business planning and developing their product before announcing. Just FYI though, our community witnesses did uncover some issues relating to witness scheduling in the network since we have added in PoW mining for account creation. Due to their efforts, I was able to get the issues corrected and those users will be rewarded with MORPH tokens in the mainnet after launch. --- Here is a full page screenshot to help with your archival: https://i.imgur.com/4smLuLA.png--- Finally, giving my account negative trust when you have a baseless accusation that has been proven incorrect several times shows further that you are not based in "Ethics" and instead are just upset that I have bruised your little man's ego
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June 27, 2019, 04:43:34 AM |
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How does it help his "investigation" by linking to my development firm website that is the creator of Morphene Blockchain, as listed on https://boonedevelopment.com?Are you willing to admit that you jumped on board a scam accusation thread and were proven incorrect as the project is not a scam and is not performing identity theft? If you are, then I obviously have no issue with you, because you are a man of ethics and character. --- Boone Development, named after Andrew Boone Chaney, is the development company that is responsible for the creation of the Morphene Blockchain. The Morphene Blockchain is a decentralized crypto auction proof-of-concept implementation of an application specific blockchain based on the Graphene library. Please take a few moments to read the Morphene Whitepaper, research the terms I have given you above, look into my development profile https://github.com/netuoso, and see if this all adds up. Still going to call this "investigation" by ICO"Ethics" good? --- Here is a quote taken from the Services section of my website, https://boonedevelopment.comBoone Development specializes in blockchain development based on the Graphene library. Our flagship blockchain product is the Morphene Blockchain.
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June 27, 2019, 04:49:29 AM |
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Every real crypto project should use real team pictures for investors satisfaction and projects legality too. Honestly this projects isn't looking trustworthy in my eyes. From your investigation its clear to me that this guys are trying to hide their real identity and that's why they are providing fake team members pictures IMO.Its pretty much simple that they have bad intention behind their project and its really alarming for investors too.
Tagged from my end and waiting to see their real team members video clips for the final decision. Excellent investigation ICOEthics as always. Keep it up mate.
You are very clearly a sockpuppet or somehow already affiliated with ICOEthics. Your "congratulations" is disingenuous to say the least. You guys raise a scam accusation thread against Morphene on some baseless claim of identity theft despite having everything available to you through simple Google searches. You should not look for evidence to suit your hypothesis. You should form a hypothesis based on the evidence.So, identity theft has been definitively proven as false. I don't think anyone can dispute that. You never know if a project is a scam until they reveal themselves as a scam, I suppose. That logic could be applied to many many projects out there. If you wish to not invest your time or energy into Morphene, that is fair. But I fail to see how you guys are even considering a project that has not asked for funding or investment and is not doing or planning any type of massive token sale aside from the minimal that is necessary to form a functional economy a scam. What is the exit plan? What conspiracy are you guys assuming is happening here? --- Thanks for your time and consideration. If you have decided to revoke you accusation, I would be happy to read it.
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June 27, 2019, 09:48:52 AM |
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You never know if a project is a scam until they reveal themselves as a scam, I suppose. That logic could be applied to many many projects out there.
Impressive suggestion,,, so you want to say that we should wait until investors got scammed ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . You could say directly that we should give you some extra time to collect investors fund. I think it's better to inform everyone before they click on their BTC wallet send button to make investment in hope of good return but actually receiving wallet address owner is ready to get vanish on the air with raising fund.
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June 27, 2019, 02:29:01 PM |
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You never know if a project is a scam until they reveal themselves as a scam, I suppose. That logic could be applied to many many projects out there.
Impressive suggestion,,, so you want to say that we should wait until investors got scammed ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . You could say directly that we should give you some extra time to collect investors fund. I think it's better to inform everyone before they click on their BTC wallet send button to make investment in hope of good return but actually receiving wallet address owner is ready to get vanish on the air with raising fund. No one is asking for investor funds. We are building the entire product first and I'm going to continue using my personal funds to keep things going as I have been. I don't want to offer anyone like yourself the possibility to invest. So you accused me of engaging in identity theft, yet I somehow have the ability to get everyone I am supposedly stealing identity from to take a photoshoot, grant me permission to use the pictures, and their online profiles mention Morphene. At least admit that you recant your dumbass accusation of identity theft and move on. What I was saying about you can never know if a project is a scam is because I am busting my ass to provide every bit of transparency I can, I wrote the white paper from scratch, I built the product with my own ideas, and it is a heavily modified of Graphene that no other project uses. The code is available on GitHub for literally anyone to use and run right now. But the simple fact of the matter is that no one else is a threat to my company because they are all talk. You are all talk. You aren't doing anything worthy so you want to try to pretend every project is a scam. Why don't you go ahead and tell the world how we are scamming? You can't because we aren't. Just like we aren't stealing identity to use for team pictures. You and ICO(NO)Ethics are obviously working together and this isn't an actual accusation based on evidence. It is an accusation being made because ICO(NO)Ethics had his ego bruised when I called him an ignorant dumbass that is just upset he fell victim to scams in his greed. --- Your trust downvote said you will remove your accusation when we proved there was no identity theft going on. I take it you are removing that then? Thanks for actually being a man that is honest to your word. --- PS: If and when I ever seek funding from someone that isn't myself it will be from people that know me very closely in real life, know about my knowledge and commitment, and have been provided with a business prospective document. None of that has happened yet, so why don't you quit using your lane excuse of protecting investors and just admit that you and your buddy just want an ego boost of being right. (when you are obviously wrong) I want to bring my friends and family with me into success, not some old out of touch geriatric bag that thinks this is a scam anyway.
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June 27, 2019, 02:35:37 PM |
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You know you could just take a full page screenshot next time. There are even extensions to help you do it. The kind of person that prints a webpage as PDF and converts to image is not the kind of technically advanced person I would even expect to perform any kind of quality "investigation". PS: I already took a full page screenshot of the website and uploaded it for you and your buddies here. Surprising I would actually help people "investigate" my team if I knew it was a scam. Perhaps, just maybe, your buddy ICO(NO)Ethics and his bruised ego are pursuing this in bad faith and instead of doing your own due diligence you are a sheep blindly following a dumb shepherd.
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June 28, 2019, 08:12:11 AM |
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You know you could just take a full page screenshot next time. There are even extensions to help you do it.
The kind of person that prints a webpage as PDF and converts to image is not the kind of technically advanced person I would even expect to perform any kind of quality "investigation".
Excuse me? I don't install (potentially shady) extensions. Especially not at work. Why should i install such an extension if i can do this with a one-liner on the command line? I don't need pointy-clicky for that. I am faster at typing one line than checking the reputation of a pointless extension while still having doubts with it being closed source. PS: I already took a full page screenshot of the website and uploaded it for you and your buddies here. Surprising I would actually help people "investigate" my team if I knew it was a scam. Perhaps, just maybe, your buddy ICO(NO)Ethics and his bruised ego are pursuing this in bad faith and instead of doing your own due diligence you are a sheep blindly following a dumb shepherd.
I have read the thread, came across 'can not archive' and posted a screenshot. This definitely means all of them are my buddies. And in 10 minutes we go to lunch together and start making fun of you. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
I am still interested in this: Photoshoot lined up for this week ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It doesn't take more than one day to get your digital copies of the photos after being shot.
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June 28, 2019, 04:20:00 PM |
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It doesn't take more than one day to get your digital copies of the photos after being shot.
So are you actually stupid or just pretending? You personally "archived" the page that included the new photos from the photoshoot. Please tell me you aren't actually that stupid?
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June 30, 2019, 05:31:23 PM |
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It doesn't take more than one day to get your digital copies of the photos after being shot.
So are you actually stupid or just pretending? You personally "archived" the page that included the new photos from the photoshoot. Please tell me you aren't actually that stupid? It doesn't take more than one day for you to realize I uploaded new pictures just like I was asked and remove your incorrect negative trust complaint against me since the identity theft has been proven false numerous times. What's your hold up? Same goes for you ICO(NO)Ethics. You said when the identity theft was proven false you'd remove your baseless accusation. I'm waiting.
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June 30, 2019, 05:53:09 PM |
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If you already have "potential" investors, just lock this thread. Nobody will invest a penny after reading this posts. BTW..doing a video of your team will take just under 5 minutes using a simple mobile phone. But you are refusing doing so for no reasons.
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July 01, 2019, 09:00:08 PM |
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If you already have "potential" investors, just lock this thread. Nobody will invest a penny after reading this posts. BTW..doing a video of your team will take just under 5 minutes using a simple mobile phone. But you are refusing doing so for no reasons. How am I supposed to lock someone else's thread? If you can give me instructions regarding it, I will do it. I am mainly waiting for the accusers to admit to a wrongful accusation and remove their negative trust comment. You may think everyone is stupid and will blindly follow someone making a baseless accusation about identity theft when 3/4 of the team here is related, but I personally think people are capable of making an informed decision given the information provided here and on the Morphene pre-announcement thread. Thank you for your time and interest in Morphene and please continue to make threads with our name, links to https://morphene.io, https://boonedevelopment.com, and various other sites/profiles we own. SEO and backlinks care little about the content in this thread and will not devalue the search results based on your apparent inability to admit fault.
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July 02, 2019, 09:56:10 AM Last edit: July 02, 2019, 10:30:38 AM by mosprognoz |
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How am I supposed to lock someone else's thread?
Sorry, it's my mistake. I meant your ANN thread. Not this one. I'm not accusing you of scamming. It's just an advise. Lock your thread and add a video to your website. Something like a interview with team members.
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TalkStar
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July 02, 2019, 11:17:56 AM |
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It's just an advise. Lock your thread and add a video to your website. Something like a interview with team members.
This advice was given at the very beginning by OP but he didn't provide their real team members video clips yet. Still now it will be a wise decision for him to provide team members video rather than giving here time wasting reply's everytime.
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July 02, 2019, 11:12:31 PM |
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If angry trolls online compelled people to do what they say after showing they weren't satisfied with their previous "demands" being met this would be a very weird world.
Thankfully I am not compelled by false accusations that have been proven wrong. When it is time for our company to care about video based marketing we will do that but definitely not in response to a "terrorist demand".
Have a great day, gentlemen.
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July 03, 2019, 05:40:20 AM |
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When it is time for our company to care about video based marketing we will do that but definitely not in response to a "terrorist demand".
There is no company ! If yes, just show us the registration documents. I was trying to be polite with you. But it seems to me, that you are nothing, but a rude and dumb scammer. The answer of yours is a clear indication, that there is no team and all photos are just stolen from internet. Please support my flag here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=314
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