Casinos can use AI to get additional edge?

[akram143]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

when Technology developed it is also one of the good factor for the development of any field if the gambling field accept the technology as an addition then it will be giving fun and extra involvement with the attraction of the the gambling very easily so that it will be acceptable for everyone.

[whirlcoin]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

it is also important when we are doing something we also expect some new features to be add on in everything especially in gambling we need to be entertained then only it will be addictive attractive for the next time so this is also like that.

[tippytoes]

I know that there are different types of AI. Based on my research, there are two types of it with many sub-branches after it. Type 1 and Type 2 AI (based on this reference)

For Type 1 it can be classified into two

• Weak AI / Narrow AI - which is focused only on one task and that's it
• Strong AI - it can perform tasks like a human being (scary it seems lol]

For Type 2 it can be classified into four and it is based on functionalities.

• Reactive Machines - it's a basic form of AI and it's thinking on the present without using data or information from the past
• Limited Memory - it bases it's actions with past data. The past information affects the future decisions (good for gambling maybe?)
• Theory of Mind - an AI with feelings? They are able to understand peoples emotions
• Self-awareness - like a human (we're not there yet)

For the usage of AI, I think the Machine Learning process on Type 2 limited memory machines would give a lot of chances to win because the more it takes on the information it could be learned on what it's doing and think of the best possible way to achieve the target. There is so much more application to AI that you can ever imagine, not just in casinos.


Links
Artificial Intelligence: Definition, Types, Examples, Technologies
How Artificial Intelligence Is Shaping Online Gambling
AI is better at bluffing than professional gamblers

If type 2 AI is to be implemented in gambling casinos - combination of limited memory and theory of mind, that would really be scary. Gambler might not have the chance to win anymore. Before, everyone has the slim chance of winning, now with that combination, I don't think a gambler will ever win. But the question is, how much data and how long does it needs to collect data from the player to be considered that it acquired the necessary information to get the full grasp of the player's behaviour?

[goaldigger]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

This explains why there are a phenomena called beginners luck which i suppose that AI makes to make the player hooked and play in a long time. This actually some codes or systems embeded into game particularly to control the ins and outs of the gambling slots. The AI decides the winning combination depending on the money you put or some reasons.

[crwth]

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If type 2 AI is to be implemented in gambling casinos - combination of limited memory and theory of mind, that would really be scary. Gambler might not have the chance to win anymore. Before, everyone has the slim chance of winning, now with that combination, I don't think a gambler will ever win. But the question is, how much data and how long does it needs to collect data from the player to be considered that it acquired the necessary information to get the full grasp of the player's behaviour?

I do think it would be like a game changer but the fact that something like that is still not out yet in public OR probably it's in a development process that is still top secret. We will never know until we find out. I'm curious with the matter of AI and is part of a group that explores something related to that but not to gambling. Maybe you could call it gambling but it's in trading. Lol.

And I think you got it all wrong with the purpose of the AI. It's for improving your chances in winning. The player would use the AI to somehow predict the best probability of winning in a certain round or the game itself. Not the other way around. If the house uses that, they would have more advantage than ever.

[bittraffic]

I think the widely used face detecting technology can help casinos staff to detect the cheaters among local visitors and prevent their entrance to the casino. The AI based casino management will not be successful in online sphere due to the obvious reasons. The house always wins, why to combine this edge with something that has not proven yet..

LOL That face detecting technology should have been widely used in many places not just casinos but airports and crowded places to detect which people in the crowd that is most likely to commit crime. I think it can be used in mobile phones too, gamblers playing in btc casino app will ask to approve access to camera of the gamblers for face checking.

[Potchi]

I did observed some games like roulette wherein it looks like the casinos or maybe AI, when they see the pattern of your bets, you won't see success as it used to be. Of course there is almost the edge, but I don't know, see this many times when I'm playing that's why when I had a good run I will simply stop. At least I have won a few and move on the next game.

I also notice that new forms of gambling relies on numbers and code such as roll and the times we would won on a bet game. It it very noticeable that online gambling also provides auto bet that has an intent to create a bet automatically in a choice to navigate the game easily in a way we could just watch and stop when we want to.

[yvesp110]

I think the widely used face detecting technology can help casinos staff to detect the cheaters among local visitors and prevent their entrance to the casino. The AI based casino management will not be successful in online sphere due to the obvious reasons. The house always wins, why to combine this edge with something that has not proven yet..

LOL That face detecting technology should have been widely used in many places not just casinos but airports and crowded places to detect which people in the crowd that is most likely to commit crime. I think it can be used in mobile phones too, gamblers playing in btc casino app will ask to approve access to camera of the gamblers for face checking.

AI could be used in many different place as it depends on the kind of artificially designed software. For airports, it is already installed in mega airports like Dubai Airport and maybe in the US I am not sure about that. When it comes to the implications of AI in the business world, you could very easily make use of AI to boost your business and reach as many costumer in seconds so yes, it could improve the gambling market.

[JohnBitCo]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

when Technology developed it is also one of the good factor for the development of any field if the gambling field accept the technology as an addition then it will be giving fun and extra involvement with the attraction of the the gambling very easily so that it will be acceptable for everyone.

Artificial Intelligence should be used in gambling sites and casino. This will give many new interactive and extra features which gamblers will enjoy.
AI can also be used to target different players with different types of games based upon their interests and past habits.

[rodel caling]

I did observed some games like roulette wherein it looks like the casinos or maybe AI, when they see the pattern of your bets, you won't see success as it used to be. Of course there is almost the edge, but I don't know, see this many times when I'm playing that's why when I had a good run I will simply stop. At least I have won a few and move on the next game.

Yeah your right great ideas and decisions, if you are already won even if small amount you should stop because casino really use AI it's hard to predict the next streak bet if you gonna win or lose. Some advise control yourself in gambling play for just having fun do not play gambling if are not ready to lose funds and do not treat gambling as source of income.

[jademaxsuy]

AI reacting in user's game is just normal. But, the computer will not dictate on someone like controlling the results so as to give the computer an attention for the users to get the mindset to always believe i. believe cryptocurrency should never

so as giving them also

[STT]

This explains why there are a phenomena called beginners luck which i suppose that AI makes to make the player hooked and play in a long time.

They arent organising false games, that would not be AI especially just unfair and manipulative with false accounting given for open game factors.    Beginners luck is better explained by somehow receives some good luck but presumes it might continue from lack of experience where as a player who has lost plenty would know better and possible take some or all of the winnings off the table.   The experience can be a negative as removing all winnings reduces the streak continuing where as blind luck helps the person who beats the odds and has no idea they are being so brave to continue the risk.
   Always take back your initial stake so you can play again, very much basic and then past that take more if you have been lucky especially as it wont be repeated often

[davis196]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

You know the saying "The casino always wins."With or without AI and random number generation algorithms,the casinos will win 99,99% of the time.The important question here is,can a gambler develop an AI or algorithm that can predict random numbers and beat the casino.

[michellee]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

You know the saying "The casino always wins."With or without AI and random number generation algorithms,the casinos will win 99,99% of the time.The important question here is,can a gambler develop an AI or algorithm that can predict random numbers and beat the casino.

Exactly, they don't have to watch the players play the game, and in the end, the casino will get all of the money. That will help them to reduce their work in the casino, and they can do another thing to promote and attract more players. Maybe the gamblers will develop the AI or algorithm that will help them to beat the house, but the casino will prevent that thing so the casino will still take the money.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Not only is the AI going to attempt to guess your moves, it's also way better at calculating the odds than you so yes, it'll definitely put the human player at a disadvantage. Seems like an overkill but I can see them attempting to use this in such a way that it wouldn't be obvious.

[Zicadis]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

DataRobot, Optimove , IKASI  are just some of the names that are already using AI to get an edge over their competetion. Read this article here that explains more about what's happening in this space: https://www.axios.com/casinos-gambling-ai-marketing-addiction-0f01b612-7384-4875-a61e-f35684804239.html

[klaaas]

You know the saying "The casino always wins."With or without AI and random number generation algorithms,the casinos will win 99,99% of the time.

Casinos where no one will win are not the ones you want to play. The gains for the house [besides the bet sizes]  are the amount of losing bets thus the amount of users playing.

[AmoreJaz]

Not only is the AI going to attempt to guess your moves, it's also way better at calculating the odds than you so yes, it'll definitely put the human player at a disadvantage. Seems like an overkill but I can see them attempting to use this in such a way that it wouldn't be obvious.

thats totally overkill! ripping the money of the gamblers at its best!
should be discreet otherwise, their area will be like a hunted one!

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

DataRobot, Optimove , IKASI  are just some of the names that are already using AI to get an edge over their competetion. Read this article here that explains more about what's happening in this space: https://www.axios.com/casinos-gambling-ai-marketing-addiction-0f01b612-7384-4875-a61e-f35684804239.html

for casinos who are already utilising AI, i guess they will not disclose it to their players. because this will prompt the gamblers not to play with them anymore.
at least give them the chance to win. dont be greedy!

[Nellayar]

The gambler always knows that there game is being read by someone else besides them and there is no way of proving this with their famous line of defence "they can't manipulate games" but we know the truth and AI is certainly at play! I have had this experience with blackjack, dice and many other games....the losing streak is my evidence

I remember the funniest line in my country when they lose.
"If they lose, the game is cheater. If they win, the game is so amazing!"

Doubting is good because it is just proving that we are an observer. But always doubting and blaming others to your loss is not anymore good. If you always blame the AI or gambling site itself, then quit gambling. Instead, pay attention to the one that you don't know a cheater.

[Rufsilf]

Gambling is all about random number generation, and provably fair scheme provides guarantees that casino doesn't cheat, but we also know that humans are horrible random number generators - we are very easily predictable.

There are many online demonstrations available, I'll just drop one here: http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kms/schools/rps/index.php
After a small number of games, computer becomes quite good at consistently beating you at the game.

So, theoretically a casino can observe how you place your bets, then predict your next bets and make their own bets (they always go first) accordingly. The flaw here is if this algorithm is implemented too naively, it can be abused by players by making big amounts of predictable low-value bets, and then making a big opposite bet.

This explains why there are a phenomena called beginners luck which i suppose that AI makes to make the player hooked and play in a long time. This actually some codes or systems embeded into game particularly to control the ins and outs of the gambling slots. The AI decides the winning combination depending on the money you put or some reasons.

Well, casinos do have codes or programs set up when a gambler plays but I don't think adding an AI would be necessary since with the present codes they have, the longer the gambler plays the closer it is to their house edge meaning a chance that the gambler will lose. I don't know if you have noticed that most of the time a new gambler plays, normally wins in the first few games but once he is hooked up and try to play longer they lose so that is why I think casinos will no longer go that extra mile just to rip people off.