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July 11, 2019, 01:01:29 AM
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That is, he supports the status quo, since he (apparently) wants the "global elites" to control it, to justify his conspiracy theories.

Yes, he begins his analysis from the assumptions that a) "the global elite" are guaranteed to succeed in co-opting Bitcoin and b) Segwit outputs are the focal point of Bitcoin game theory. He can't establish a basis for these assumptions, logically nor historically. He just insists it must be this way.

He doesn't bother to address the lack of any market demand for his proposed fork, nor the lack of users on his proposed network. He doesn't reconcile the irrelevance of obscure hard forks nobody on the Bitcoin network can even see. He just assumes "the global elite" will back his fork and then corner the market, and therefore that all the pieces will fall into place.

You dont need to read his walltexts, this paragraph above already sums it all up. We will have a massive worldwide dystopia and there will be nowhere to run. Bitcoin is no safe haven, on the contrary, its the mouth of the beast ready to swallow you. Sell all your stash before its too late.

Thats why I dont have patience discussing with /pol/tards. Every conspiracy theory is a dead end. I believe they do it on purpose to make you feel helpless and then throw it all away. Its elaborated defeatism. Thats why I classify this as heavy FUD, the kind of which make R0ach's posts looks like child's play.

Shelby's whole theory is just a slight variation on every other conspiracy theory where "the global elite" control everything in the world and we are helpless to stop them.

He's literally launching into tirades about Israel conspiracies and Biblical symbolism and acting like these are legitimate "facts" relevant to Bitcoin. He's presenting Biblical passages as if they are proof of his deranged theories. Here's a snippit from his last article about Bitcoin:

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It’s not the selfless, superrational, anti-harlotry Jews who will be spit out of the Lord’s mouth, but instead those unrepentant who are the aforementioned 9/11 and JFK-assassination mafia that is leading the world into the Great Harlot. Plus all those who reject Jesus to (even unconsciously or unwittingly) follow the Satanists.

Who are the powerful evil doers behind the curtain?

Not run-of-the-mill, banana-republic kingpins such as Calder-Le Roux. There are the significant, more visible, anti-Christian underlings such as Summers, Soros, Zelikow, Mueller, Clintons, LBJ, James A. Donald, Bush, Cheney, more PNAC’s such as Bolton, etc.. But more importantly there’s also those unnamed in the inner circle who are pulling the strings behind the CIA, Mossad, and MI6.

This stuff is pure gold.


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July 11, 2019, 02:10:07 AM
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If "the global elites", who've completely missed the boat on bitcoin so far, come to realize its inevitability as a primary global reserve asset, this gives them a way to get a large piece of the pie.

this route seems far from a slam dunk. it actually sounds downright stupid tbh. there's no empirical evidence suggesting it'll work. in fact, it seems to go in the face of our past experiences with miner-backed forks, which have only been broadly ignored and ridiculed by the market.

i guess we're just supposed to trust that "this time is different"? as you probably know, that's a dangerous assumption with bitcoin! Cheesy

if the elites really want in, why not go the traditional route of using derivatives to suppress prices, like the gold market? that might allow them to accumulate cheap for years, which is one of the reasons i'm suspicious about bakkt's entry into the market.

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July 12, 2019, 06:09:19 AM
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Is that it? That's your debate? That didn't answer the question. But what rational exchange would give your apocalypse-coin, the chain which miners can STEAL Segwit outputs, the BTC ticker?


You do not reason, that my rebuttal implies also that the assignment of a ticker symbol and other forms of politicized optics is irrelevant.


But how is it irrelevant? Because you said it was irrelevant? That's not very relevant. Cool

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Hundreds? Can you name some of them? I believe there's none.


I won’t allow you to waste my time with your apparent ignorance of the s/w industry. Believe whatever you want to believe.

Somehow China, Russia, USA, Japan can send satellites into outer-space but you think only a few guys on this planet can write software and incorporate cryptography.  Roll Eyes


My ignorance? Or do you simply do not have an answer?

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Last edit: July 13, 2019, 04:01:43 AM by infofront
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The banned dude contacted me to tell me that the mods deleted Traxo's latest forum post, which had responses to this thread. Apparently some people have been reporting Traxo to the mods, presumably for posting content from a banned person?

The content can be found:

http://web.archive.org/web/20190711051314/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all
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http://archive.is/PfRNC

He said to, "Especially pay attention to the bolded text highlighted in blue color."

I'd like to just respond to one point (if he's still reading this thread):

Quote from: Shelby
The global elites have not missed the boat, lol. They created Bitcoin

It seems to me that bitcoin was created by Nick Szabo, probably in conjunction with Hal Finney. What is your reasoning for thinking it was created by the global elites?
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The banned dude contacted me to tell me that the mods deleted Traxo's latest forum post, which had responses to this thread. Apparently some people have been reporting Traxo to the mods, presumably for posting content from a banned person?

The content can be found:

http://web.archive.org/web/20190711051314/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all
and
http://archive.is/PfRNC

He said to, "Especially pay attention to the bolded text highlighted in blue color."


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c) You are failing to map out the mechanics of how such a hard forking off by Core will proceed. First the price will be pushed very high right before the halving. Thus the difficulty will be skyhigh. Then Craig will dump 1 million BTC on the market crashing the price as the halving occurs, thus causing the Core chain to win a block maybe every few hours or longer delays. The Core chain will slow down so much that miners can not earn any rewards there. You are very dumb person. You do not even think out the details of things. Whereas, the legacy chain will be humming along and providing donations booty. Also Craig will have amassed a $billion or more from shorting and from preloading airdropped Core shitcoins on the exchanges for dumping to Tether. So then he can buy legacy BTC on OTC exchanges with Tether providing income for miners who mine legacy.


Craig Wright owns 1 million Bitcoins? Or allegedly? Roll Eyes

Shower thought. Knowing that Craig Wright will "dump millions", would it be possible for the miners to censor Craig Wright's transactions because "game theory"? Acting in their own self-interest, and the whole network's self-interests.

What would be more rational?

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I'd like to just respond to one point (if he's still reading this thread):

Quote from: Shelby
The global elites have not missed the boat, lol. They created Bitcoin

It seems to me that bitcoin was created by Nick Szabo, probably in conjunction with Hal Finney. What is your reasoning for thinking it was created by the global elites?


Additional question for him, but do the global elites OWN the network? Cool

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July 18, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
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Quote from: infofront
Quote from: Shelby
The global elites have not missed the boat, lol. They created Bitcoin

It seems to me that bitcoin was created by Nick Szabo, probably in conjunction with Hal Finney. What is your reasoning for thinking it was created by the global elites?

I saw that Shelby responded. I'll post it here:

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Satoshi was Not Nick Szabo

Nick Szabo isn’t an adept C++ computer programmer:

https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto

https://github.com/nicksz

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6828582

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3di6zc/nick_szabos_hidden_work/

Szabo has stated he did not create Bitcoin and that he was missing the key insight of employing permissionless, decentralized proof-of-work to elect which nodes participate in the Byzantine agreement consensus for the replication of transaction ledger:

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html

Szabo was primarily a legal, history, and economics researcher and theoretician (study his website and blog) and he admits that wasn’t enough to create Bitcoin:

https://twitter.com/nickszabo4/status/977035747713675264

http://web.archive.org/web/20160209085850/http://szabo.best.vwh.net/

And Szabo was not focused on the decentralized facet:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6828435

I also remember that at the convention when Craig Wright pointed out that Bitcoin’s scripting language is Turing-complete, Szabo seemed to be ignorant of this facet of computer science (well ostensibly Gregory Maxwell was also):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282144.msg13239629#msg13239629

The above linked post was mine and here’s another where I dived into more detailed speculation on the creation of Bitcoin (including the observation that if Satoshi was not protected by the powers-that-be, he would have wanted publicity to protect himself):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1284083.msg13239420#msg13239420

Additionally Szabo asked if someone wanted to help code his bitgold, which was missing the decentralized PoW that makes Bitcoin so revolutionary:

https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/

Yet it is documented that Satoshi seemed to be unaware of Wei Dai until he contacted Adam Back (the source of PoW via hashcash, note Finney also used PoW in his centralized server RPOW):

https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/#comment-129

And Wei Dai says Satoshi was unaware of Szabo until after he contacted Wei:

https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto

There were 3 people who developed the main ideas for Bitcoin other than decentralized PoW, and any hobbyist or academic would have contacted them and admitted being aware of them (people don’t just create shit out-of-the-blue without scouring for prior art and usually getting their inspiration from the prior art):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6828582

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Dai#Relationship_with_Satoshi_Nakamoto


Satoshi was Not Hal Finney

Hal Finney denied being Satoshi and applied much effort to be transparent with the evidence that he was not Satoshi:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/

Hal Finney worked closely with Satoshi at the launch of Bitcoin in January 2009:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf


Hal Finney’s ALS

The following is highly speculative.

Hal Finney began exhibiting symptoms of ALS in May 2009:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bshZiaLefDejvPKuS/dying-outside#9uTprDmJSsXJiys3J

The odds of Finney exhibiting symptoms of ALS in May 2009, just 4 months after closely interacting with Satoshi, are astronomically improbable if it was not a premeditated outcome:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180612075358/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4418987.0;all#msg39923901

Finney was in the best shape of his life building up to running marathons:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7jsp0s/one_of_the_last_posts_made_by_hal_finney_on/

The bacteria that causes Lyme disease has been weaponized:

https://www.quora.com/Was-Lyme-disease-invented-by-the-US-government-at-Plum-Island/answer/Sue-Laib

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/lyme-disease-resolving-the-lyme-wars-2018061814071#comment-308648

A variant of that weaponized bacteria may be capable of causing ALS:

https://www.holtorfmed.com/als-another-lyme-related-disease/

https://www.holtorfmed.com/borrelia-burgdorferi-found-in-als-patients/

https://huib.me/en/blog/the-lost-link-between-als-and-lyme-disease/

The following is debunked by the above linked because of the lack of comprehensive testing for Lyme disease in the following study:

https://www.aldf.com/is-there-a-causal-relationship-between-lyme-disease-and-amylotropic-lateral-sclerosis-als/

So why would the creators of Bitcoin want to murder Hal Finney?

Because they knew Finney would take the most interest in Bitcoin due to his work on RPOW as model implementation of Szabo’s bitgold, and most importantly because they knew that when Satoshi swept the 1 MB block size limit under the rug that Finney would be too aware to not notice. And that he would have too much stature in the community and could have caused discord about the blocksize issue much too soon, disrupting Bitcoin’s lead as the sole cryptocurrency with an insurmountable first mover advantage.

In short, because Finney was capable of forking Bitcoin early and making trouble, because he was a true selfless Libertarian cyberpunk:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/meet-hal-finney-man-who-received-first-ever-bitcoin-samuel-falkon

http://www.digitpress.com/library/interviews/interview_hal_finney.html

Bitcoin was designed to be the reserve currency for Facebook Libra when it becomes a global 666 medium-of-exchange. Bitcoin was not designed to scale transaction volume and this fact would have caused lack of exuberance and much contention/forking had it been known too early.

Another evidence that this was premeditated is that Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto lived only blocks away from Hal Finney:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)#Bitcoin

This symbolism and tribute to their sacrifices at the altar of Moloch are hallmarks of the Zionist-Satanists who run this world:



https://steemit.com/info-wars/@anonymint/debunking-mark-roberts-9-11-disinformation-tactics

https://steemit.com/info-wars/@anonymint/disembarkment-of-the-9-11-passengers

https://steemit.com/info-wars/@anonymint/plane-flyover-explosives-planted-inside-the-pentagon

https://steemit.com/politics/@anonymint/powers-that-be-are-moving-us-towards-world-war-3

https://steemit.com/psychology/@anonymint/you-can-t-handle-the-truth

https://steemit.com/freedom/@anonymint/in-t-h-e-f-t-a-n-d-m-a-s-s-a-c-r-e-s-we-trust

https://steemit.com/politics/@anonymint/israel-s-mossad-did-9-11

https://steemit.com/libra/@anonymint/facebook-s-libra-bitcoin-trump-israel-666-orwellian-dystopia

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@anonymint/secrets-of-bitcoin-s-dystopian-valuation-model

https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/rise-of-hard-money-is-a-harbinger-of-misery

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/are-most-cryptocurrencies-doomed-to-collapse-because-they-re-ico-issued

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken



Gavin appears to be a CIA asset.

And now as the plan appears to be to discredit decentralized cryptocurrency in order to usher in Facebook’s Libra (later to resurrect the legacy, immutable Bitcoin to back Libra with it when they are ready to depreciate the dollar), they have their operative Craig Wright link Bitcoin to a genius drug kingpin:

https://www.wired.com/story/was-bitcoin-created-by-this-international-drug-dealer-maybe/





Links about Finney’s RPOW:

https://cryptome.org/rpow.htm

https://github.com/deosai/rpow

https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/theory.html

https://nakamotoinstitute.org/rpow/

https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html
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Why would the global elite create a slow, inefficient, hard to scale, trust-minimized blockchain/financial network, which they can't fully control, to compete with the current "666 system" that the own, and fully control?

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July 19, 2019, 12:12:46 PM
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Why would the global elite create a slow, inefficient, hard to scale, trust-minimized blockchain/financial network, which they can't fully control, to compete with the current "666 system" that the own, and fully control?


For the same reason that Hollywood created the P2P protocol, to pirate their own movies.  Grin
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Posted as an impartial messenger, which means don’t presume I agree with the choice of wording or even the points made. Nevertheless the forum benefits from hearing all sides of an argument.

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Why would the global elite create a slow, inefficient, hard to scale, trust-minimized blockchain/financial network, which they can't fully control, to compete with the current "666 system" that the own, and fully control?

To fool you into helping them erect a globalized 666 system. Of course they must get you to think that Bitcoin is harmless and/or beneficial in the fight against centralized corruption, in order to gain your fanatical, drooling, sheepeople-fanboy support.

What control have the global-elite gained over the world when the high transaction volume, efficient, permissioned, global medium-of-exchange is Facebook Libra, and backed by the slow, inefficient, low transaction volume, trustless/permissionless, reserve currency asset of Bitcoin.

Facebook Libra is a consortium blockchain to be run by large corporations which the global-elite control.

Besides who ever controls the global economy (eventually through Libra and banking for example), also controls Bitcoin, because due to the power-law distribution the top 1% will will control 33% of the BTC and also the global-elite control the all the $millionaires and $billionaires also with their control over governments, so in effect the global elite control 80+% of the wealth. When the miners take the SegWit donations probably at the halving this May 2020, then you will know that the global elite control Bitcoin and the cryptocosm. They will first crash the public confidence in Bitcoin, by destroying Core Bitcoin so that the public associates decentralized, trustless cryptocurrency with scams. This will open the door for Facebook’s 666 Libra, as the general public will want something that is more “trustworthy”. It’s all doublespeak because the global elite are playing 5D with the sheepeople’s pea-size brains.

The Libra+Bitcoin plan underway is how they consolidate their power over the world into a more firm grip with totalitarian control and tracking over everyone. So they can fully enslave all the sheepeople. Forced chemical lobotomies, forced chemical castration of males, etc.. to reduce the human population to their 500 million goal. This will come in stages over the next few decades.

NSA scans your license plate several times a day to know everywhere you go:

http://web.archive.org/web/20170904230136/https://medium.com/@amuse/did-you-know-that-the-nsa-uses-uber-drivers-and-soccer-moms-to-spy-on-you-d912fe74befd

You guys ostensibly get so enamored with yourselves when you think you’ve rebuked me and think you’ve stated something intelligent, but a person who is more intelligent than you can detect that you’re at the level of 2D checkers and the global elite are playing 5D chess. Do you really think after years of contemplating this that I would overlook such an obvious and simplistic argument as you have just made. If so, you’re not very astute at judging the intellect of others.

If I don’t reply to the next myopic thing you guys post, that doesn’t mean you’ve stated something cogent. It just means you guys are apparently not smart (and open-minded) enough to conceptualize the errors in your logic. And I’m not motivated to continue correcting you forever. If you happen to write something that I think actually pokes a hole in my conceptualization, I will surely acknowledge it if I read it. I’m fair that way.

This is my way of saying, don’t expect more replies. I’ve made my major points already.

Good luck to everyone. I hope some readers have benefited from my effort. Peace.

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If I don’t reply to the next myopic thing you guys post, that doesn’t mean you’ve stated something cogent. It just means you guys are apparently not smart (and open-minded) enough to conceptualize the errors in your logic. And I’m not motivated to continue correcting you forever. If you happen to write something that I think actually pokes a hole in my conceptualization, I will surely acknowledge it if I read it. I’m fair that way.

This is my way of saying, don’t expect more replies. I’ve made my major points already.

Good riddance.

Anyone who bothered to read your text walls can see your theory is based on layer upon layer of irrational assumptions, insane religious numbskullery, and zero substantive facts. You're a wingnut. Bye now!

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To fool you into helping them erect a globalized 666 system. Of course they must get you to think that Bitcoin is harmless and/or beneficial in the fight against centralized corruption, in order to gain your fanatical, drooling, sheepeople-fanboy support.


To erect another one? You're not listening. But the present globalized 666 system already works. They already own 99% of everything.

Why build a self-sovereign, decentralized cryprocurrency network? They can't fully control it. Why open the Pandora's box that gives power to the users?

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What control have the global-elite gained over the world when the high transaction volume, efficient, permissioned, global medium-of-exchange is Facebook Libra, and backed by the slow, inefficient, low transaction volume, trustless/permissionless, reserve currency asset of Bitcoin.


Plus let's also point out that that is misinformation. The Libra white paper never made a statement of Bitcoin as its "reserve currency". Bitcoin's high volatility would be a liability.

The Libra white paper, https://libra.org/en-US/white-paper/

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Libra is designed to be a stable digital cryptocurrency that will be fully backed by a reserve of real assets — the Libra Reserve — and supported by a competitive network of exchanges buying and selling Libra. That means anyone with Libra has a high degree of assurance they can convert their digital currency into local fiat currency based on an exchange rate, just like exchanging one currency for another when traveling. This approach is similar to how other currencies were introduced in the past: to help instill trust in a new currency and gain widespread adoption during its infancy, it was guaranteed that a country’s notes could be traded in for real assets, such as gold. Instead of backing Libra with gold, though, it will be backed by a collection of low-volatility assets, such as bank deposits and short-term government securities in currencies from stable and reputable central banks.


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Posting again as an impartial messenger.

Quote from: Shelby
I sent this in email to Coins.ph’s support. I think this addresses Wind_FURY’s latest posts in this thread. Someone with a high IQ would have already deduced the following from my prior statements, so consider the following to be remedial education for the dimwitted.

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The point is that if you are holding your BTC in SegWit addresses that begin with a 3 instead of Satoshi's protocol addresses that begin with 1, then all your BTC is going to be taken by the miners as donations if Craig Wright fulfills his promise to restore Satoshi’s protocol. You will not have any notice nor time to react. By the time you hear about it, your BTC will be gone. Poof. Gone. Note BSV is apparently a red herring and is not Satoshi’s immutable protocol that will be restored.

Read these threads very carefully:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147618.msg51584165#msg51584165

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157901.0;all

Note the plan to eventually back Libra with Satoshi’s protocol Bitcoin is not known to the public at this time. It is a speculation on how the world is going to be reshaped (eventually hyperinflation of the dollar after the strong dollar vortex) and who is really in control and why they created Bitcoin in the first place. Bitcoin and Libra are not about what overly idealistic (snowflake fantasies) young people think it is about. Only dimwitted idiots still do not understand that a 1 MB block size kicks everyone except the global elite off of legacy protocol Bitcoin eventually.

https://www.ccn.com/alex-jones-tells-joe-rogan-george-soros-offered-me-5-million-to-pump-bitcoin/

Satan (and extremely powerful men without any other goals to challenge them) is insatiable thus wants to own your soul. He’s not satisfied with just owning all the tangible resources of the earth. Also humanity refuses to follow the teachings of Jesus and thus desires to be enslaved, so the power vacuum of slavery must be fulfilled by someone.



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I updated the following Steemit post. I want you to view the charts and read at least the first (at the very top of the post) and last link (at the very bottom of) the post, which I will discuss below.

https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/re-anonymint-countries-vulnerable-to-economic-devastation-soon-20180629t105111746z

Archive:

http://archive.is/https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/re-anonymint-countries-vulnerable-to-economic-devastation-soon-20180629t105111746z


So the charts indicate the 2014 solar (sunspot) cycle peaked ~150 which was ~20% lower then the ~190 peak of the prior two 11 year solar cycles.

The #24 solar cycle (“cooling”) bottomed in 2019.

Armstrong is making the following points:

1. Cycle #25 (“warming”) will peak at least 33% less than cycle #24 and possibly as low as 50% less.

2. We’re headed into food shortages (and thus increased food prices) due to this rapid change in the climate due the Maunder Minimum in the sun which is worsening, with a backtested scientific model projecting of a Mini-Ice Age by 2030.

3. The world stands at a precipice of a significant contagion and stagflation that will make a lot of debt unserviceable. This is the bankster’s business model:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.10/thinklikeabanker.html

(note above linked blog was written in January 2010)

So the bankster’s plan is currently at the stage before the “Onset of hyperinflation”. That hyperinflation can’t come until most people do not hold debt, because the banksters would not want to hyperinflate away the widely held debt allowing people to retain their debt financed assets without paying for them. First the banksters want to default those loans and take possession of the assets while pushing most people into poverty and dependence on socialism (in short slavery).

I add to these points that the coming inflation will not only be cost push, but also monetary. The strong dollar vortex will cause huge inflation in the other countries due to the weakening value of their local currencies. Facebook’s Libra providing a way for citizens all over the world to hold dollars will exacerbate the coming strong dollar vortex.

So first we will get the strong dollar and global stagflation, so then later (~2024 – 2028?) when the dollar is to be crashed, this future extreme stagflation in the USA (because everything imported will cost more as the dollar crashes and global economy will be toasted except Asia will be starting to grow again as the dollar crashes so demand will outstrip supply of many things due to the prior contraction outside the USA under the strong dollar). So as the dollar crashes real estate values will plummet in the USA (the exhale of foreign capital that exits after stampeding into the USD during the preceding the vortex), which will cause so many debt defaults. Then after that the bankster plan is to hyperinflate the dollar which they can do by for example backing Libra (which should be ubiquitously used outside the USA by that time because of the strong dollar vortex) with legacy Bitcoin (not the Bitcoin Core which is not Bitcoin and will be destroyed this coming May 2020). That will force the Fed to monetize the government’s $1+ trillion annual debts which will worsen after 2024 when socialism grinds the USA into the abyss after Trump is done with his second term.

In short, astute investors will become extremely wealthy (although most will lose everything because they’re not paying attention), but many people are going to end up on Universal Basic Income slavery within a decade or two.
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Posting again as an impartial messenger.

Quote from: Shelby
I sent this in email to Coins.ph’s support. I think this addresses Wind_FURY’s latest posts in this thread. Someone with a high IQ would have already deduced the following from my prior statements, so consider the following to be remedial education for the dimwitted.

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The point is that if you are holding your BTC in SegWit addresses that begin with a 3 instead of Satoshi's protocol addresses that begin with 1, then all your BTC is going to be taken by the miners as donations if Craig Wright fulfills his promise to restore Satoshi’s protocol. You will not have any notice nor time to react. By the time you hear about it, your BTC will be gone. Poof. Gone. Note BSV is apparently a red herring and is not Satoshi’s immutable protocol that will be restored.

Read these threads very carefully:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147618.msg51584165#msg51584165

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157901.0;all

Note the plan to eventually back Libra with Satoshi’s protocol Bitcoin is not known to the public at this time. It is a speculation on how the world is going to be reshaped (eventually hyperinflation of the dollar after the strong dollar vortex) and who is really in control and why they created Bitcoin in the first place. Bitcoin and Libra are not about what overly idealistic (snowflake fantasies) young people think it is about. Only dimwitted idiots still do not understand that a 1 MB block size kicks everyone except the global elite off of legacy protocol Bitcoin eventually.

Satan (and extremely powerful men without any other goals to challenge them) is insatiable thus wants to own your soul. He’s not satisfied with just owning all the tangible resources of the earth. Also humanity refuses to follow the teachings of Jesus and thus desires to be enslaved, so the power vacuum of slavery must be fulfilled by someone.


I would be curious about "Rogue Wave" opinions about "Native" SegWit addresses (Bech32 addresses) like the below:

bc1qwqdg6squsna38e46795at95yu9atm8azzmyvckulcc7kytlcckxswvvzej

bc1qmrmfs07jnngy8f69sln9p7lpv5dmg0lfxhdfrz

I am also curious as to why some of those "bc1qxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" addresses are so much longer than others.  Both above addresses from Block 587155.

[edited for minor typo]
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I sent this in email to Coins.ph’s support. I think this addresses Wind_FURY’s latest posts in this thread. Someone with a high IQ would have already deduced the following from my prior statements, so consider the following to be remedial education for the dimwitted.

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The point is that if you are holding your BTC in SegWit addresses that begin with a 3 instead of Satoshi's protocol addresses that begin with 1, then all your BTC is going to be taken by the miners as donations if Craig Wright fulfills his promise to restore Satoshi’s protocol. You will not have any notice nor time to react. By the time you hear about it, your BTC will be gone. Poof. Gone. Note BSV is apparently a red herring and is not Satoshi’s immutable protocol that will be restored.

Read these threads very carefully:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147618.msg51584165#msg51584165

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157901.0;all

Note the plan to eventually back Libra with Satoshi’s protocol Bitcoin is not known to the public at this time. It is a speculation on how the world is going to be reshaped (eventually hyperinflation of the dollar after the strong dollar vortex) and who is really in control and why they created Bitcoin in the first place. Bitcoin and Libra are not about what overly idealistic (snowflake fantasies) young people think it is about. Only dimwitted idiots still do not understand that a 1 MB block size kicks everyone except the global elite off of legacy protocol Bitcoin eventually.

https://www.ccn.com/alex-jones-tells-joe-rogan-george-soros-offered-me-5-million-to-pump-bitcoin/

Satan (and extremely powerful men without any other goals to challenge them) is insatiable thus wants to own your soul. He’s not satisfied with just owning all the tangible resources of the earth. Also humanity refuses to follow the teachings of Jesus and thus desires to be enslaved, so the power vacuum of slavery must be fulfilled by someone.



Did they send you a reply back? I would have liked to see their customer support's face when he read your email. Cool

Anyone who's not delusional would know that "restoring Satoshi's protocol" would be another chain, that would not be the "BTC" ticker in the exchanges. Not worth the risk for miners.

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Update from Shelby, being passed on by an impartial observer:

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This is obviously based on the assumption of a SegWit donations attack at the halving event in May 2020, with the need for the price to moon before the halving so then when the price is crashed by Craig Wright dumping ~1 million BTC then the SegWit (i.e. Core) blockchain will lose most of its miners and thus slow down to perhaps 1 block found every week (instead of every 10 minutes) and with the mining difficult not to be reset (without some centralized intervention) for perhaps a year or never. The inability of the SegWit blockchain to proces transactions as the price craters will cause the price to crater even more in a spiraling into the death-of-coin abyss effect.



Enjoy the wild ride!
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This is obviously based on the assumption of a SegWit donations attack at the halving event in May 2020, with the need for the price to moon before the halving so then when the price is crashed by Craig Wright dumping ~1 million BTC then the SegWit (i.e. Core) blockchain will lose most of its miners and thus slow down to perhaps 1 block found every week (instead of every 10 minutes) and with the mining difficult not to be reset (without some centralized intervention) for perhaps a year or never. The inability of the SegWit blockchain to proces transactions as the price craters will cause the price to crater even more in a spiraling into the death-of-coin abyss effect.



if nothing else, the guy is consistent.

pinning all his hopes on craig wright is a baffling decision, but maybe it'll pay off. it's a high reward bet---someone's bound to take it.

only $80k though? disappointing. my asks are all in the 6-figure range. see you on the order book, shelby. Wink

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pinning all his hopes on craig wright is a baffling decision, but maybe it'll pay off. it's a high reward bet---someone's bound to take it.

Believing our psychotic Antipodean friend has a bean to his name is the last bullet in the noggin of this person's cred. I don't see how any faintly rational being can believe a word of anything surrounding that particular subject.

Maybe it's time people stopped being impartial messengers?
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Go ahead and open shorts at $80,000. I double dog dare ya. Tongue

Maybe it's time people stopped being impartial messengers?

Where are they coming from anyway? The Bitcoin.com forum? I was wondering if they were his alt accounts.
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Didn't Craig send half of Satoshi's stash to Ira Kleiman?
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