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June 25, 2019, 05:05:33 PM
Last edit: June 25, 2019, 06:51:45 PM by actmyname
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While reporting Altcoin Discussion came upon this. Definite looks like they're just grabbing synonyms from a different post.

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StiffMove
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June 25, 2019, 05:48:52 PM
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It's so painful to read those comments. Are they bots? If not, it appears that those users are using some kind of an online translator or paraphrasing tools. They are also not wearing any signature so I wonder what motivates them to post. Account farm?
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June 25, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
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It's definitely plagiarism, using text spinning tools. 33bitcoin reported it earlier this month in the Wall of fame / shame thread. I came up with a few more accounts but never reported them, simply hate searching for spinned text. Posts are taken from the same thread (for anyone interested in finding the source, usually a couple of pages earlier).


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June 25, 2019, 06:53:00 PM
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I believe these are going to be farmed accounts. They all seem to have Russian emails linked to them (@mail.ru) and account farming/selling is fairly big in their Local board.

I know the marketplace section is brimming with Jr. Members, so perhaps they're just letting the users accumulate activity under-the-radar and then they're going to gift large portions of merit.

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June 25, 2019, 07:12:55 PM
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Reference archive:
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https://archive.fo/jjOvD

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Marilis - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2594072
Bludkiller - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2594077
Drelakelv - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2594094
Jushura - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595383
Mezihn - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595397
Tekree - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595404
Dagdadar - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595433
Fearlessfury - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595863
Nuadalanim - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595868
Morluril - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595873
Kigazragore - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595879
Muzahn - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2596601
Mazugor - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2596616
Bramuro - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2597191
Budor - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2598584
ininf - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2328617
tendenc - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2329326
Butpow - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2330634
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Andthis - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2331450
Manuscr - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2336023
Churchp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2348151
Asformu - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2349199
Ballalar - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2593586
Centriril - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2593591
Dicage - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2593598
Tygotaur - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2593607
Snowworker - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2593656
Doomfang - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2593662
Bladebinder - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2594061
spacei - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2335958
Inendth - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2331629

All of them with similarities like:
  • mail.ru emails
  • No more than 10-30 posts
  • Spinned text

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June 25, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
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Seems like that all of them are nuked. Nice.

It's so painful to read those comments. Are they bots? If not, it appears that those users are using some kind of an online translator or paraphrasing tools. They are also not wearing any signature so I wonder what motivates them to post. Account farm?

It seems like that they are most likely using a bot, because the way that they spin the text, it seems like that nearly every single word is thesaurus'd which would take way too much effort and time to do by hand (they might as well post normally if they don't have a bot).

@franckuestein, are these accounts going to get nuked as well?

Even if they are not alts it is still apparent that they are doing the exact same thing, and deserving of a ban, imo.
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June 26, 2019, 05:20:27 PM
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@franckuestein, are these accounts going to get nuked as well?

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Sorry, I forgot to answer you  Tongue

It seems that another mod checked their profiles and banned all of them. Monitoring this thread in case someone sees more bumpers like those. Thanks!!

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June 26, 2019, 07:43:21 PM
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I doubt that he is substituting the words one by one because its time consuming and he might be better off posting shit so he might be using a cheap paraphrasing software/website to do this. Most of the post doesn't even makes sense when you read so this is just your traditional copy/paste plagiarism but he added an extra step and convert it with what he is using. But where is the original post coming from?
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June 27, 2019, 02:15:55 AM
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These are the exact posts I want to report.....

but for all I know;  its a person with low levels of schooling or English language knowledge....   Its close enough to make me not want to issue an un-just report....

rock.... hard place....   Im not sure on what level we should start enforcing it;  At one level;  people supporting each others perspectives or giving their own is ok...   but where do you draw the line?

The language barrier potential can be quite an impact on the interpretation of the post......   I don't want to be flagging people for using improper English or sentence structures....

I do have 100% accurate report history; and typically when I report someone;  if its not quite so obvious, I look at their post history for any irregularities.

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June 27, 2019, 01:40:59 PM
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These are the exact posts I want to report....
but for all I know;  its a person with low levels of schooling or English language knowledge....   Its close enough to make me not want to issue an un-just report....

Just report them, you'll automatically notice when a person who's bad at English puts effort into his/her posts.
It's the content that matters, not the way it was written.

These examples clearly do not make any sense, so feel free to report anything that looks similar to this.

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June 27, 2019, 10:59:10 PM
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These are the exact posts I want to report....
but for all I know;  its a person with low levels of schooling or English language knowledge....   Its close enough to make me not want to issue an un-just report....

Just report them, you'll automatically notice when a person who's bad at English puts effort into his/her posts.
It's the content that matters, not the way it was written.

These examples clearly do not make any sense, so feel free to report anything that looks similar to this.

yeah;   I have the urge often to report what I feel like are "circle jerking" posts of supporting opinions;   I saw threads with a lot of 'Veil' sig wearers doing this....  but half of their post history looked legit.

Ill just click the report button, and give a comment anyways;  I just don't wanna put more unnecessary work on the plate of mods cause they have a hard enough time sometimes dealing with the blatantly obvious stuff.

I do like the forum signup tainted IP fees; maybe banned poster IP lists can be incorporated into that taint list as well.  It's still a flawed design for the long term, but it really cuts down on the crap for now...   
I have a similar scheme on all my personal servers;  except if you ever hit my shitlist (for example you try one incorrectly made request to an SSH port for instance) your IP is perma-banned for life....   The number of daily intrusion attempts went from tens of thousands;  to literally just a few if any each day.   I know for a fact many major tor nodes and VPN endpoints are blacklisted by means of this;  which I am fine with.

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