What has changed in last 60 days to allow Yobit to have campaigns here ?

[Have_good_times]

I am seeing ALL the scam accusations against Yobit is NOT yet closed in an agreeable way.

I am not seeing Yobit hiring a manager to take care of controlling spam in all possible way.

But, people started wearing Yobit's signature and promoting them in each and every corner of this forum.

Participants' ban is temporary as they deserve another chances. But, what Yobit has done from their side to qualify to have campaigns here. The prohibition of Yobit to run campaigns should be extended until they clear themselves in all means.

There are lots of open scam accusations against Yobit. People who are all supporting/promoting a scammer might get eligible for red trust (and not obviously for spamming).

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[Steamtyme]

The clock on their punishment ran out. I'm shocked they aren't actually using an onsight manager from what I can tell. If it turns into the same spamfest I imagine the punishment will be worse. In regards to the scam accusations the forum doesn't moderate that sort of thing.

~snip~ All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.~snip~

[LoyceV]

I am seeing ALL the scam accusations against Yobit is NOT yet closed in an agreeable way.

Scams aren't moderated. Freedom of speech prevails, it's up to the users to check who they do business with.

The clock on their punishment ran out. I'm shocked they aren't actually using an onsight manager from what I can tell.

From what I've seen, they're not paying. So it's just some more free advertising until it dies out.

[Steamtyme]

From what I've seen, they're not paying. So it's just some more free advertising until it dies out.

Wow that would be a whole new level of 0 fucks given. It does look like only 1 person has received a payment, hard to say how many people are actually wearing the Sig with no spreadsheet available. Guess we'll know in a day or 2 if payments start flowing. Assuming it doesn't all fall apart by then.

[Pmalek]

Nothing has changed. Yobit signatures were banned for 60 days, that ban period is now over and now they are trying to do it again.
Similar posting requirements with up to 20 posts per day, no manager to manage and check the quality of the posts so it can only go one way I think.
Probably another ban and possibly harder punishments for everyone involved.

[Have_good_times]

So, it seems yobit signatures were wiped then as they were not doing in favor of controlling spam. I guess that was a first time occurrence where both posters and the business were punished for spamming and failed to control spamming.

Scams aren't moderated.

In regards to the scam accusations the forum doesn't moderate that sort of thing.

In recent times, duckdice were prevented to host a campaign due to open scam accusations. Some years back when betcoin.ag were running a monthly sig. camp. both Lauda and Lutpin were warning people with the possibilities of negging participants.

I guess admin and mods may not do anything about yobit but it is time for DT people to take action against yobit promoters for supporting the scammers.

From what I've seen, they're not paying. So it's just some more free advertising until it dies out.

No. some people are claiming that they are getting paid without any problems. Probably case to case things here.

[Steamtyme]

In recent times, duckdices were prevented to host a campaign due to open scam accusations. Some years back when betcoin.ag were running a monthly sig. camp. both Lauda and Lutpin were warning people with the possibilities of negging participants.
I guess admin and mods may not do anything about yobit but it is time for DT people to take action against yobit promoters for supporting the scammers.

Do you have a link for the duckdice campaign not being allowed to have a Signature Campaign? All I could find was this refusal for a forum advertising spot based on multiple Negative Feedbacks being left in regards to the service. This is different from moderating forum scams or their advertising activities through campaigns.

I should have left the whole quote in the first place but seeing as we veered that way tagging isn't an appropriate response for spam. You can tag them if you believe they are promoting a scam exchange but yobit is a grey area for a lot of people. Most have had no problems, and people who have had problems in the past haven't brought proper evidence or more than a generic claim in most cases.

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

[The-One-Above-All]

We understand users not being banned when there is not clear evidence of scamming. However when MANY people have been clearly robbed by places like yobit that switch off their wallets for months or years to create their own markets and trap peoples coins into markets that nose dive immediately now is terrible.

The board is allowing places like this to suck people in that will certainly be fleeced of their btc.

It is bad for the entire movement. Especially new traders that may be immediately put off by their initial experience with such an exchange.

They should be blacklisted until they change their MO.

People should do their own DD for individuals but when it is a large(ish) exchange that looks semi pro it already looks credible and they can bring huge sig campaigns here then it drowns out the warnings that exist.

Until they stop turning off their wallets even for projects that have up to date working ones and leaving them offline for months or years then it must be blacklisted from this board. It is a trap for anyone that trades there waiting to happen.

[Have_good_times]

Do you have a link for the duckdice campaign not being allowed to have a Signature Campaign?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.0

Edit:
Betcoin : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15753336#msg15753336
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15747871#msg15747871

[Sellman]

Nothing has changed. Yobit signatures were banned for 60 days, that ban period is now over and now they are trying to do it again.

I am not sure that Yobit has still paid for their supporters or not. In my opinion, after 60 ban days over, signature of their supporters automatically re-appeared. The point for now is, to find out whether Yobit send emails (like what happened in their previous announcement on spam signature campaign) to their users in order to announce the re-run of their campaign or not. If they actually re-run their campaign, more serious action might come next days or weeks.

Do you have a link for the duckdice campaign not being allowed to have a Signature Campaign?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.0

DuckDice locked their thread after people complained and open reputation thread
Alt of DuckDice.io which was tagged for scam

[stadus]

DuckDice locked their thread after people complained and open reputation thread
Alt of DuckDice.io which was tagged for scam

They locked the thread due to lack of interest because participants are afraid they will get tag if they will participate in the campaign.

The warning post can be seen here * https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.msg49477682#msg49477682

[hilariousandco]

From what I've seen, they're not paying. So it's just some more free advertising until it dies out.

Wow that would be a whole new level of 0 fucks given. It does look like only 1 person has received a payment, hard to say how many people are actually wearing the Sig with no spreadsheet available. Guess we'll know in a day or 2 if payments start flowing. Assuming it doesn't all fall apart by then.

I wouldn't take what that user said as truth unless he proves it.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If they actually re-run their campaign, more serious action might come next days or weeks.

If Yobit actually decided to run their campaign like every other campaign does, i.e., with a campaign manager and standards for posting, there wouldn't be much of a problem.  Unfortunately when they resurrected their campaign 60 days ago or so, they figured they could do the same shit they did in 2015.  The forum has become a lot less tolerant to shitposting since then, which Yobit should have realized.

I wasn't aware that they'd started a campaign yet again after their ban, since I have signatures blocked--but I'm not surprised that a lot of people woke up to participate in it.  There aren't a lot of campaigns left, and Yobit pays pretty well and has a good payout system.  Those are the only good things I can say about them.  Everything else they do with respect to their signature campaign sucks.

They locked the thread due to lack of interest because participants are afraid they will get tag if they will participate in the campaign.

I'm of the opinion that Yobit campaigners shouldn't get tagged, because I don't think Yobit is truly a scam exchange.  I know I'm probably in the minority there, but they've been in business for years and haven't absconded with their customers' funds like some other exchanges have, and I've used them with no problems whatsoever.  They are shady, yes.  Their customer service is non-existent, yes.  But they don't rank up there with other flat-out scam exchanges.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I wasn't aware that they'd started a campaign yet again after their ban, since I have signatures blocked--but I'm not surprised that a lot of people woke up to participate in it. 

It surprises me that you have signature ads on block when you're in one yourself, sound's funny to me. Normally when forum members come out to declare they have the signature or avatar feature disabled, they usually aren't participants of the system (signature campaign). I mean what's the profit in not giving others the opportunity to sell their product to you when you do sell your to them in the same manner (signature space). No offense, just need charity from your angle.

[FFrankie]

Yobit isnt even paying, they cant help that idiots keep wearing it on the hopes of getting paid. Its not yobits fault that people keep wearing the signatures

[TryNinja]

Yobit isnt even paying, they cant help that idiots keep wearing it on the hopes of getting paid. Its not yobits fault that people keep wearing the signatures

Are you sure? I may be wrong, but I remember an user saying that he got a payment (that was after the ban ended out).

[FFrankie]

Yobit isnt even paying, they cant help that idiots keep wearing it on the hopes of getting paid. Its not yobits fault that people keep wearing the signatures

Are you sure? I may be wrong, but I remember an user saying that he got a payment (that was after the ban ended out).

You accrue btc in the signature wallet but it will never let it transfer you over to your yobit balance

[nickenburg]

Oke what has happened in the past with Yobit that everyone is calling them scammers?
Because I was in the Yobit campaign in 2016 and at that time they would pay out no problem!
So what happened last time because when I saw their signature campaign I was like nice I can join that again.
But when I read this topic and see your reactions I am doubting if I should still stay in it?

[sowns]

Oke what has happened in the past with Yobit that everyone is calling them scammers?
Because I was in the Yobit campaign in 2016 and at that time they would pay out no problem!
So what happened last time because when I saw their signature campaign I was like nice I can join that again.
But when I read this topic and see your reactions I am doubting if I should still stay in it?

I don’t think it’s about the sig campaign at all but rather due to the fact that the exchange has a number of problems. This thread should have most of it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153493.0.

[AdolfinWolf]

Oke what has happened in the past with Yobit that everyone is calling them scammers?
Because I was in the Yobit campaign in 2016 and at that time they would pay out no problem!
So what happened last time because when I saw their signature campaign I was like nice I can join that again.
But when I read this topic and see your reactions I am doubting if I should still stay in it?

I don’t think it’s about the sig campaign at all but rather due to the fact that the exchange has a number of problems. This thread should have most of it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153493.0.

But, scams aren't moderated, so that shouldn't be the reason that the sig campaign isn't allowed.

It was rather the amount of spam it caused due to their lax posting policies (20 posts a day max etc), and no moderation of said campaign.

I wasn't aware that they'd started a campaign yet again after their ban, since I have signatures blocked--but I'm not surprised that a lot of people woke up to participate in it.  

It surprises me that you have signature ads on block when you're in one yourself, sound's funny to me. Normally when forum members come out to declare they have the signature or avatar feature disabled, they usually aren't participants of the system (signature campaign). I mean what's the profit in not giving others the opportunity to sell their product to you when you do sell your to them in the same manner (signature space). No offense, just need charity from your angle.

This is somewhat ironic indeed.

Yobit isnt even paying, they cant help that idiots keep wearing it on the hopes of getting paid. Its not yobits fault that people keep wearing the signatures

Are you sure? I may be wrong, but I remember an user saying that he got a payment (that was after the ban ended out).

I'm not sure, but i think i've seen BitBustah extolling the work of yobit, including him saying he got paid.

From what I've seen, they're not paying. So it's just some more free advertising until it dies out.

It does look like only 1 person has received a payment,