[Flag Request] YoBit Exchange

[Joel_Jantsen]

Flag Type Requested: Negative

Related Account: YoBit

Flag Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=406594

Relevant Message: YoBit has been known as one of the shady exchanges out there. From waves of unsolved scam accusations, spreading spam on the forum and pumping coins to deceive investors the list goes on when it comes to the reliability of an exchange. I believe they deserved to flagged if it does any good of making newbies aware to avoid using them.

Reference Threads :

https://archive.is/d2LAr#selection-317.1-321.118

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1857032.msg18626562#msg18626562

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1500951.msg15112807#msg15112807

Flag Supporters:
1. Joel_Jantsen
2. yogg
3. Avirunes
4. TheUltraElite
5. mocacinno
6. morvillz7z
7. subSTRATA
8. suchmoon
9. Hhampuz
10. Quickseller
Flag Opposers: None
(This is the general format I'll be using for requesting flags )

[Avirunes]

I will definitely support that. Go ahead and create a flag and report it here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0

Given the changes, there will be many request as such but I think using a common thread to report will be much more helpful.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I will definitely support that. Go ahead and create a flag and report it here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0

Why? I have my own thread to request flags. This will also serve as one place for me to create all my flags instead of creating a new topic every time I have to flag someone. I've already flagged them and you can see it in the profile linked above.

Given the changes, there will be many request as such but I think using a common thread to report will be much more helpful.

That's true and hence, my own dedicated thread.

[Tim1996]

Can someone tell me why when Avirus commented that he support the idea,his comments was not deleted while mine was just a one sentence but the gist was same as Avirus was deleted 😡

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Very nice, i like the idea.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Can someone tell me why when Avirus commented that he support the idea,his comments was not deleted while mine was just a one sentence but the gist was same as Avirus was deleted 😡

Because your post is trashy and doesn't add anything constructive to the conversation like @Avirunes post. "I like the idea", "Nice project", "Very Interesting" are some of the examples of shit-posts that get deleted and in the long run you might get a ban if you keep on creating such posts. Avoid them. Support your "Very nice, I like the idea" with - Why do you think it's a nice idea.

[yogg]

Supported your flag.

They have shady practices, and I have lost funds to them due that I sent some alts to Yobit but their altcoin wallet was on a different chain.
I never received my coins, and they never replied.

Yobit is a deceitful operation to my eye.

[Avirunes]

Given the changes, there will be many request as such but I think using a common thread to report will be much more helpful.

That's true and hence, my own dedicated thread.

Alright then. Supported the flag and support your idea as well 

[morvillz7z]

I think the correct flag link is this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=48

Needless to say,  I also backed up your flag without any hesitation, largely because of the numerous scam accusation topics opened against them and their recent ultra-spam encouraging signature campaign (which ended being banned).

[Timelord2067]

Hi guys, I've only been reading up on flags for the last ten minutes.

Your flag link wants me to start a flag whereas other flag requests have asked me to support their flags.

Which would you prefer?

[Avirunes]

Hi guys, I've only been reading up on flags for the last ten minutes.

Your flag link wants me to start a flag whereas other flag requests have asked me to support their flags.

Which would you prefer?

Do the support one.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Supported your flag.

They have shady practices, and I have lost funds to them due that I sent some alts to Yobit but their altcoin wallet was on a different chain.
I never received my coins, and they never replied.

Yobit is a deceitful operation to my eye.

Which flag did you choose? If they have personally scammed you, you should be going for that contractual flag (which is ideally responsible for the scammer tag on their profile.)

Needless to say,  I also backed up your flag without any hesitation, largely because of the numerous scam accusation topics opened against them and their recent ultra-spam encouraging signature campaign (which ended being banned).

Yeah but that wouldn't really make a big difference because we can't give them a scammer tag. Thanks for supporting the flag anyway.

Hi guys, I've only been reading up on flags for the last ten minutes.

Shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes to understand it lol 

Your flag link wants me to start a flag whereas other flag requests have asked me to support their flags.

Which would you prefer?

I wouldn't want you to start a flag since I did do that on my own. I want you to support my flag if you think it's appropriate. You can choose the Flag type as your individual choice.

[yogg]

Supported your flag.

They have shady practices, and I have lost funds to them due that I sent some alts to Yobit but their altcoin wallet was on a different chain.
I never received my coins, and they never replied.

Yobit is a deceitful operation to my eye.

Which flag did you choose? If they have personally scammed you, you should be going for that contractual flag (which is ideally responsible for the scammer tag on their profile.)

I simply supported yours.
I'd need to dig into it, since I never bothered to open a scam accusation against them. It happened somewhere in 2016.

But .. I doubt it will happen, that coin I sent to them has died since then so there is no blockchain explorer.
So it's only my word, I have no facts to present, hence why I supported your claims.

[CjMapope]

yobit is scammy, i will support this flag
sadly i seem  to have made my OWN flag on them by misclick instead
once i fix that, i will support YOUR flag lolz

edit: ok, so you never made a flag it seems?  im still learning this new system, i just saw "support flag of yobit for scamming" and tried to get in on that shit haha
fail lol

edit2: figured it out   supported Joel's flag

[Pif]

Seems like someone radically changed their mind 

[CjMapope]

haha nice try

unlike most people my views are pretty secure, unlike MOST people i can have a PAID AD as a sig
and still voice that i DONT agree with how something (or SOMEONE) is
if YOBIT has a problem with my pushing them to be better, and standing up for the community with my words
they can ban me from their campaign, plain and simple

nice try tho , i know alot will be mad this campaign is back (and banned some of their spammers it seems), but my opinion on the flag dosent change, i support it still
the PEOPLE will decide (by spamming or not) if this campaign will continue
remember yobit had a campaign here for YEARS b4

anyways this is OffTopic, take it to your own thread or something man

edit:  @macadonian.  learn the rules (you are ignored now as obviously you dont even know basic rules here and wanna judge ME? lol) , stop being offtopic, take it to your own thread, i wont bother to reply to you idiots that care way too much about internet points on this forum, i follow Theymos' rules here, thx, take care bye

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm not going to support or oppose this flag, but I have much respect for Joel_Jantsen for creating it.  The reason for my inaction is that I'm currently still using them to buy a coin that I can't conveniently get anywhere else, and I'd feel like a hypocrite if I supported the flag.

I am well aware of all the scam accusations against Yobit, but many of them never had any followup to document whether problems were resolved or not.  I never thought of them as a purely scam exchange like Cryptsy or some of the others that took off with their customers' money.  They certainly have incompetent customer service and are indeed shady, but that's as far as I'm willing to go.

My views are not set in stone, however.  I could very well change my mind about this with further research, but I have a very biased viewpoint:  I've never had a problem with them.

[Macadonian]

haha nice try

unlike most people my views are pretty secure, unlike MOST people i can have a PAID AD as a sig
and still voice that i DONT agree with how something (or SOMEONE) is
if YOBIT has a problem with my pushing them to be better, and standing up for the community with my words
they can ban me from their campaign, plain and simple

nice try tho , i know alot will be mad this campaign is back, but my opinion on the flag dosent change, i support it still
the PEOPLE will decide (by spamming or not) if this campaign will continue
remember yobit had a campaign here for YEARS b4

anyways this is OffTopic, take it to your own thread or something man

You are possibly the most confusing and morally misdirected person that I've seen with positive trust. Are you actually willing to bend your morals for monetary gain? Whether Yobit is shady or not I don't have an opinion because I've only had positive experiences with them although I am aware of the claims against them.

Yet you take a different approach don't you? You believe that Yobit poses high risk to those that use them and there are concrete red flags against them.

You created a flag with

CjMapope alleged the following, but later withdrew it: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with YoBit is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

However you continue to advertise their services although you believe they are a scammy operation according to your above reply. Are you really willing to risk your reputation and advertise for a operation that you believe to be a scam? As a result of your advertising you are exposing more members to what you consider to be a scam how on earth does your morals allow you to do that?

I share a similar view point to The Pharmacist in that I use Yobit and have had no problems myself and I don't actually consider them a scam operation. I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt that their customer service is awful and hopefully the current issues people are having are actually resolved.

[AdolfinWolf]

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What is wrong with you people. You acknowledge they're a scam yet you're eager to jump ship and be one of the first to promote them again, only to then claim that you're morally righteous for doing so/standing up for the community because... you're taking their money?

if YOBIT has a problem with my pushing them to be better, and standing up for the community with my words

"StAnDinG uP fOr tHe ComMunItY"

Anyway... If that money is worth sacrificing your dignity... Then:

Lead the way kid! The investment box at yobit is open for everyone! young and old, everyone is welcome to make 7% returns daily, totally legit!

i follow Theymos' rules here, thx, take care bye

Thank god you do follow (theymos's imaginary rules on this topic?... ) because your own moral compass for sure is missing.

[actmyname]

i follow Theymos' rules here, thx, take care bye

Thank god you do follow (theymos's imaginary rules on this topic?... ) because your own moral compass for sure is missing.

It delegates the responsibility to someone else. That's the idea.YoBit is known to enable their own pump and dump schemes. They are known to have very ponzi-like programmes and some actual ponzis (correct me if I'm wrong). Their IEO email spam and other items also add to this fire.

Don't be a part of something you don't support.

[Timelord2067]

Hey Joel, if you post something in the SexCoin thread I'm sure you'll get some more supporters.