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July 20, 2019, 06:23:28 AM |
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actually the drop in price has nothing to do with size of the amount the dumpers dump on the market. it is all about lack of demand for tokens and altcoins that are useless. so it doesn't matter how much and how you dump the tokens it will crash the market since there is nobody there to buy that token anyways. everyone has just gambled and invested in that token to try their lock in a short term to see how much they can pump it and how much profit they can get. as soon as they feel like the pumping fuel has run out, they make their exit.
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 20, 2019, 06:34:13 AM |
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But who cares about this, I'm sure a dumper will become a dumper. Dumper doesn't care about this, so they are called dumper. Oh yes, dumping is not only for large quantities of sale, but dumping occurs even though the quantity of sale is small but the quantity of dumper is high. They will continue to race to sell at low prices, I often see dumping on new coin lists on the market.
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July 22, 2019, 02:06:09 PM |
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Your idea is very ideal and I think that is not applicable in real world. We don't have the right to say to someone that you should do this or that because they own that tokens. I think we need to find a way how they will dump it gradually but they will benefit more if they do that I hope we can come up with the idea to do it. Reward system is still the best among all strategies and I think it will work.
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July 22, 2019, 02:22:14 PM |
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If dumpers can dump coins and tokens in a reasonable way it won't affect the value much , lose in value when dumping happens if a dumper dumps huge amount of the token at once , this is a wrong way to dump coins, this is why till date some devs put locks on their tokens ,some even release percent by percent on term basis just to avoid huge dump.
The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once
Real talk, you can't "make" someone to dump or sell their bag in your "reason way" that dump little by little and not all in one go. Even devs try to lock or force their way into people's bag, they can't prevent the inevitable.
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July 22, 2019, 03:39:41 PM |
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Dump means selling huge amount of coins at the same time. If someone want to sell coins without dumping price, s(he) should do it gradually, by selling small amought of coins gradually. Small amount means small enough to not dumping price. So, time is key too. Selling slowly, hours, or maybe days to avoid dumping price and create panic.
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July 22, 2019, 03:45:24 PM |
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How about a whale methode, went he pump the price to make all people put the order after a lot people put the order and we have a big order book. He started the dump, just like you only need 1 BTC to pump and make a people put the order, the whale started to dump with estimation 10 BTC. Just like trade 1 BTC to 10 BTC.
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July 22, 2019, 03:47:43 PM |
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It doesn't matter to sell lots of tokens if the purpose is not to damage the price, and in fact, it has become the right of those who have tokens to sell or not. For the distribution of bounty payments in stages it is not too influential to prevent price declines, even a decline continues
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July 22, 2019, 03:51:58 PM |
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Whales, with their huge funds and huge amount of coins, have to move very slowly and silently. So, they can not dump all their coins at once without serious impacts on price. They have to do it gradually, and it is an art of whales. They usually sell their coins over time, weeks with some bumps along the road in order to keep price as high as possible for them to sell and get as much funds as possible.
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July 22, 2019, 07:48:05 PM |
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Anyway, we will not be able to change the situation with the actions of large whales, who will always manipulate the cryptocurrency market in order to get more income. perhaps what is happening today in the cryptocurrency market is due to their fault.
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July 22, 2019, 09:35:30 PM |
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If the dumpers have huge amount of token this actually have a great impact in the market. If the Team are financially capable, they can buy the dump and still stabilize the price.
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July 22, 2019, 10:01:09 PM |
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If dumpers can dump coins and tokens in a reasonable way it won't affect the value much , lose in value when dumping happens if a dumper dumps huge amount of the token at once , this is a wrong way to dump coins, this is why till date some devs put locks on their tokens ,some even release percent by percent on term basis just to avoid huge dump.
The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once
The major reason for tokens to lose value is because simultaneous dumping from bounty participant, they get only little part of the total token but that little part is the major part of the circulating supply, that's why the effect of hunters dumping is always more effective negatively.
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July 22, 2019, 10:03:09 PM |
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If you are one of the big investors then it wont matter. Selling at one point where there is profit already is a good decision. Why would they wait for it to go back to a 20 percent loss where everybody is selling if you could do it right away.
Just like what is happening with bitcoin, no one can stop it. We have our own choices here and that is one hell of a good feature for most of the time rather than being a bad one.
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July 22, 2019, 10:28:24 PM |
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I agree with you. Selling tokens in bits will not affect the price so much, however dumping huge amounts at a specific time affects the price very much.
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July 22, 2019, 10:56:36 PM |
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Do you remember what happened with the BTCUSDSHORTS which were suddenly cleared off Bitfinex without hardly ever any affect on price back on June 30th?
Basically over 20000 BTC were claimed and it didn't affect the price at all since the shorter just covered his position by providing the shorted bitcoins.
That is one way to dump without having a large impact on price. Because he sold little by little instead of making a huge deposit and nobody took notice. If 20000 BTC was sent from a whale to an exchange then people would notice and front-run him by shorting before the transaction gets confirmed. Hence he did what he did not to get spotted.
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July 23, 2019, 12:33:20 AM |
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The simplest way is to just ensure the token has sufficient liquidity. Obviously if they are listing on a trash exchange, or have some very large bounty token holders then it can be quite easy to dump the market.
To avoid this I would just lock the tokens in the smart contract until it either has utility, or is listed on an exchange with at least $50 million daily trade volume (top 50).
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July 23, 2019, 01:17:05 AM |
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If the dumpers have huge amount of token this actually have a great impact in the market. If the Team are financially capable, they can buy the dump and still stabilize the price.
You got perfect best team ever when they want to buy all dip price. By now, Team don't have finacially capable to do that, they only hope by investor to buy back dip and make it stable, or try to geting new investor and endorsing to social media and news official.
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July 23, 2019, 02:18:23 AM |
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There is no way to stop someone to not dump their tokens when it is listed on exchanges. As investor you want to earn profit so you dump your tokens then buy again for a cheaper price. If the project behind that token has a potential then it would recover after some months if demands grow. But if it will be abandoned and the team are just into profit then dumping your tokens at the beginning is not a bad choice.
right, we can't control dumper. they have their own thoughts, but if the development team is able to develop the project very well, investors will re-assess and i think the dump will be a little restrained, their projects will slowly grow again and bring many new buyers to come.
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July 23, 2019, 02:46:14 AM |
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There is no stopping a person with large amount of tokens to dump and hit the floor. It will have an impact even with just small amount all the more with hundred thousands. Devs wouldn't be locking these tokens if there is another way. Some dev are just distributing 1/3 tokens per month.. That will slow down the dumps giving time for the real investors to sell the first but the inevitable still happens.
Indeed, because market movements change because of the actions of users and investors, no matter how much capital you use to dump, it will still affect the market, even if it's small. there is no way for you to dump without influence. back again on the dev strategy so that their coin market does not drop when a dump occurs, such as managing well disitribution of token on the market
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July 23, 2019, 02:56:42 AM |
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The way I do it is that I will really be watchful of the accumulated amount. This is also the proper way to dump so as not to affect the market much. I am always careful not build a sort of a sell wall that would only compel other sellers to sell their own shares at a much cheaper price. Although this has a lot to do with the volume as well, it is much better to spread your sell orders.
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July 23, 2019, 02:59:53 AM |
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It will have an impact even with just small amount.
no matter how much capital you use to dump, it will still affect the market, even if it's small. selling small amounts wont cause a dump , the op already said it but that if all people will unite or will agree with that terms but i dont think itll happen since some of us are in-need of a huge sums of money . there were also whales that will sell huge amount of cryptos just to manipulate . @op , dump means huge fall in the price . you should use different terms such as " decrease" or " small decline of the price" if you hate the dump .
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