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July 20, 2019, 09:12:27 PM
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Because we got ranks and shit, let's turn this into a voting forum where we get votes by ranks and shit.

This way, we can coup...erm, "transfer ownership" to a good entity through "trusted" democracy. kek.

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If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization... let's say 50% of membership, and we can do log(xxx) level, so even mods and admins get say, with a fuckton more votes.

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July 20, 2019, 09:43:09 PM
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Because we got ranks and shit, let's turn this into a voting forum where we get votes by ranks and shit.
Voting system is always flawed, it only breeds corruption, it'll never be implemented here.
This way, we can coup...erm, "transfer ownership" to a good entity through "trusted" democracy....
What authority are we tryna usurp here if I may ask, I see no dictator, and democracy today is flawed likewise.
If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization... let's say 50% of membership, and we can do log(xxx) level, so even mods and admins get say, with a fuckton more votes.
No,no,no!

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July 20, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
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If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization...
Really?  You sign a petition and magically things change to your advantage?  Are we living on the same planet here?

Honestly I don't know what your point is and what exactly you want to unionize.  Seems like you want a seniority system, which I'm pretty sure Theymos won't implement as far as rank determining how much of a voice you have in forum matters.  What matters most is your reputation and whether you can make logical arguments. 

This forum is centralized whether you like it or not, and no amount of digital signatures on a shitty-ass petition is going to change that.

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July 21, 2019, 12:07:08 AM
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Are there any unions where the unionees are not being paid by the company? To me it sounds pretty dumb to unionize when the union would be unable to collect dues of any kind. Also what would this union fight for? I think the better question is why do you want a union
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July 21, 2019, 12:23:45 AM
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Far too late at this point, with something like this it has to be implemented right from the start, otherwise it just goes to shit. Plus it just adds complexity for no reason, the forum is setup the way it is because it works and I like it just fine. Yea there are some things I would fix but anyone still using the forum likes it in one form or another. Why would you want to take something, that you like already and then give everyone else the power to change it for you?

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July 21, 2019, 03:02:11 AM
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Because we got ranks and shit, let's turn this into a voting forum where we get votes by ranks and shit.

This way, we can coup...erm, "transfer ownership" to a good entity through "trusted" democracy. kek.

After the new DT changes, the system has already changed to a voting system, just use your trust list to participate in the voting process.



If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization... let's say 50% of membership, and we can do log(xxx) level, so even mods and admins get say, with a fuckton more votes.

None of this petition would give shit here until theymos finds it worth implementing, you even don't know how many things are on his to do list anyways. This is a centralized forum for you're kind info, you should stick this in your mind.

But if you see the good side of theymos's administration he already wants the community to get the power to decide who is trustworthy and who is not, so we should just respect this young mans thoughts.

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July 21, 2019, 08:04:46 AM
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First we will need an analysis of members broken down by age and sex. Smiley

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July 21, 2019, 09:42:50 AM
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First we will need an analysis of members broken down by age and sex. Smiley

What if I decide not to identify as a particular age or gender?

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July 21, 2019, 10:44:11 AM
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If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization... let's say 50% of membership, and we can do log(xxx) level, so even mods and admins get say, with a fuckton more votes.
Or we can pull an amazon™ on your bitch' ass since unions are for pussies.  Cool



you want to unionize a forum where people simply make posts about bitcoin? Are you high? This isn't a workplace.

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July 21, 2019, 12:32:56 PM
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First we will need an analysis of members broken down by age and sex. Smiley
Unfortunately, I'm an alien so I don't know my sex Sad and also my age.

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Nope. That will never happen.

Even in real world, petition and shits never happen so it will not happen to in this forum. Do you think that you can just post a thread here like this and admins will agree with you when most of the users sign the petition?? Its pure stupidity.

In the end, admins and mods will be the final decision here so creating threads like this will be useless.

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July 21, 2019, 12:50:22 PM
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If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization...
Really?  You sign a petition and magically things change to your advantage?  Are we living on the same planet here?

Can just build a new forum with blackjack and hookers once the majority membership signs on.

Far too late at this point, with something like this it has to be implemented right from the start, otherwise it just goes to shit. Plus it just adds complexity for no reason...

Trust, merit, activity were added post-forum creation my friendly dude. I remember a time when none of these concepts were concepts here.

After the new DT changes, the system has already changed to a voting system, just use your trust list to participate in the voting process.


None of this petition would give shit here until theymos finds it worth implementing, you even don't know how many things are on his to do list anyways.

But if you see the good side of theymos's administration he already wants the community to get the power to decide who is trustworthy and who is not, so we should just respect this young mans thoughts.

Trust is only a small part of the system, but the web of trust can easily be abused. Between activity, reputation, merit, and trust, I think we can find a common ground of systems.

Theymos is slave to the community. His todo list could be made public for all the forum to do. Distributed work is done faster with more nodes.

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July 21, 2019, 11:24:23 PM
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Why would you want to take over or make a new forum ?

This forum is run by people more organised, motivated and skilled than me.

They take care of the technical issues, financial costs and associated stresses.

I just post on here, have no real responsibility and get to enjoy the use of it.

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July 21, 2019, 11:27:27 PM
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I just post on here, have no real responsibility and get to enjoy the use of it.

Yeah but doesn't it annoy you that other people post stupid shit on it too? Wouldn't it be nice if only union-approved posters could do it. /s

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July 21, 2019, 11:36:02 PM
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I just post on here, have no real responsibility and get to enjoy the use of it.
To be honest, posting here is a real responsibility too. It takes some thinking to write a post that

 - Doesn't offend anyone
 - Post an honest opinion on the drama around so you don't become the next target
 - Post something stupid or sarcastic because you never knew when newbies will pick it up and actually follow it
 

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July 22, 2019, 02:06:32 AM
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Trust is only a small part of the system, but the web of trust can easily be abused. Between activity, reputation, merit, and trust, I think we can find a common ground of systems.

Ok, so give us an example of the perfect system with no abuse please !

Most of this abuse are traceable here and acted upon by the community if you don't see.

Theymos is slave to the community. His todo list could be made public for all the forum to do. Distributed work is done faster with more nodes.

LOL, that sounds funny , Theymos is a person with high morals and ethics, great technical, political even cooking knowledge and probably much more, on the other had you seem to find it hard to get some brain cells active at least. He was made an admin here as he was trusted, not because he wanted to be a slave of the community.

His to do list is not public, it's all about his own choices and time management too.

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July 22, 2019, 04:08:04 AM
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Just checking what's this about,...



And... AFAIK, we already have. UNION ....  Here and  here....

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July 22, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
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Theymos is slave to the community. His todo list could be made public for all the forum to do. Distributed work is done faster with more nodes.
Theymos' todo list can be found there:
Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them)
Sometimes, theymos run contests to improve the forum, but it is not too often. The forum has nearly one-person-coded by theymos.
The Epochtalk forum, the new forum software has been here for too long, but there are limited developers help to test it. I don't think we should ask for more public sources if don't join and help the new forum software testing procedure. I am sorry but I am not a developer, so I can not join it, but if you or anyone else can and have spare time, you all should do it.




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July 22, 2019, 10:46:58 AM
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If enough of us sign a petition using a non-reputable signature, we get unionization...
Really?  You sign a petition and magically things change to your advantage?  Are we living on the same planet here?

Honestly I don't know what your point is and what exactly you want to unionize.  Seems like you want a seniority system, which I'm pretty sure Theymos won't implement as far as rank determining how much of a voice you have in forum matters.  What matters most is your reputation and whether you can make logical arguments.  

This forum is centralized whether you like it or not, and no amount of digital signatures on a shitty-ass petition is going to change that.

Maybe it was sarcasm.
Like these 2 replies

First we will need an analysis of members broken down by age and sex. Smiley


First we will need an analysis of members broken down by age and sex. Smiley

What if I decide not to identify as a particular age or gender?

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July 22, 2019, 08:09:01 PM
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Want to help the forum? Try working on new software here: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk

Node is trash. Javascript is trash.

That shit software won't scale beyond 50,000 users, let alone the millions on this forum.

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That shit software won't scale beyond 50,000 users, let alone the millions on this forum.
Average page views per day: 1356466.59
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Doesn't look like the forum is too resource-intensive. Smiley
We might have 2.6 million users but how many of those are actually active? Considering we have sub-10K posts per day, it doesn't seem like a lot. It's a 0.3% ratio of members to posts/day.

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