Impossibility of a gambling system (Why methods don't work)

[Aero Blue]

I read a thread today that a man won the lottery 12 times and he did so by creating an algorithm and he managed to do it so the system can be beaten but it take a genius to do it.Almost all normal gamblers who know nothing of algorithms they just play their way and although many of them say they know the secret they don't.I agree that everyone should play the way they feel more comfortable playing.Gambling should not be stressful otherwise addiction is right behind the door.

Here we go again! So, is there a possibility that someone can invent a "winning method" or there is no such possibility? I think it is the latter because no genius can hack math. Read carefully the famous story how MIT students won $8 million in the Massachusetts Lottery, and you'll see that it happened because of the mistake of the organizers, not because of some miraculous(or genius) algorithm. The "mistake" was actually an intentional one, but that's another story. If you haven't read it, it's worth reading.

In short, even if someone had won 12 times in a lottery, he was just lucky and that's it. Don't buy his method, you will not increase your chances of winning by doing so. Don't buy any "winning methods" because they are no better than those you can invent by yourself.

Yea I think people often forget that most of those stories involved some sort of "exploit". They confuse "exploit" and "method" for some reason. I guess some don't realize the difference between the two.

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[Lanatsa]

It's a given fact and proven that no method works, you can win once but you cannot win every time, so why not just allocate funds relax and play the game, without forcing yourself to win in every bet, you'll not only going to enjoy it but you will have confidence in your ability to stop when it's time to stop.

That’s right, gambling is set it in a way where no methods or strategies that works and that can secure you a win. Gambling is more on luck and no matter how smart you are in creating a strategy, it won’t work, whether we like it or not, between the gambler and the owner, it’s the owner is the one getting rich while the gambler is becoming broke.

Just come to think literally if there were methods do exist then there would be no gambling sites on the first place yet these things will just bankrupt their business.

Its a total BS for people to think of this possibility yet it isn't possible on the first place but there were fools who do push up beyond on what they are trying to believe on.

Yea this is the "logical" way to think about it. Same as the "too good to be true" mentality. If there was any "easy money", why would anyone work a job? I think it helps to look at it in a different way though, because sometimes people assume that they can "beat" the system, while others can't.

This is true in some scenarios for example, poker, where a lot of people just through away money, while others study and take calculated risks. Poker is a game that applies some skill though, unlike a truly random thing like dice.

Its a different story because there were type of gambling that can really be studied out and make advantage among other players like Poker.

It can be experienced and learn making yourself to good compared to others yet you know on what you are doing but talking about typical gambling games specially
luck based ones then theres no such thing on beating up the system.

[romero121]

Op has briefed well about the impossibility on gambling as well has given descriptions with examples. This way more important thing with gambling seems to be the luck compared to the strategies applied. Whatever the strategies applied, we're to move alongside of luck and no strategy gives assured winning probability. This way house always has its edge unlike the strategy.

[Zicadis]

The issue is people almost always gamble to make a profit, those that already have the warped bias that they are likely to strike it big and defy the odds also typically lack the logic necessary to understand that there are no systems that can beat the house edge over the long run.

Play for the fun of it, or don't play at all. Odds are you won't be the exception.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Maybe there is a method which can work to defeat the system, but I don't think that every gambler can do that because that will require genius skills. We can only play gambling without having a big chance to win the games, but for sure, we only lose the money at all time. But I am sure that there is a person who can win the game with his luck and that happens only for a few people.

Gambling is gambling. it is impossible for someone to change a destiny in the future except that the game depends on skill. it's totally different from gambling, which relies entirely on luck. if I myself consider gambling the game of mental fighting and guts. and brought with fun not to gettin stress. which I believe there is no method for getting rich through gambling. unless you are the one who runs the gambling business itself.

[TimeTeller]

It's a given fact and proven that no method works, you can win once but you cannot win every time, so why not just allocate funds relax and play the game, without forcing yourself to win in every bet, you'll not only going to enjoy it but you will have confidence in your ability to stop when it's time to stop.

That’s right, gambling is set it in a way where no methods or strategies that works and that can secure you a win. Gambling is more on luck and no matter how smart you are in creating a strategy, it won’t work, whether we like it or not, between the gambler and the owner, it’s the owner is the one getting rich while the gambler is becoming broke.

Just come to think literally if there were methods do exist then there would be no gambling sites on the first place yet these things will just bankrupt their business.

Its a total BS for people to think of this possibility yet it isn't possible on the first place but there were fools who do push up beyond on what they are trying to believe on.

Yea this is the "logical" way to think about it. Same as the "too good to be true" mentality. If there was any "easy money", why would anyone work a job? I think it helps to look at it in a different way though, because sometimes people assume that they can "beat" the system, while others can't.

This is true in some scenarios for example, poker, where a lot of people just through away money, while others study and take calculated risks. Poker is a game that applies some skill though, unlike a truly random thing like dice.

Gambling is by birth a very uncertain investment of your time and money. You rarely win at the table. There are factors like house edge that is well prevailed and matter a lot when it comes to try to win in a casino. Sports gambling is something I prefer over the casino gambling because you use your intuitions and wisdom plus experience to decide and make a move in real time.

Same here. I believe that sports betting is one of the forms of gambling that you can get high chance of winning if you know that particular sport.
Other forms of gambling are based merely on the player's luck. There might be strategies yet luck has the major role in gambling.
This is the reason why online casinos have house edge, and can generate a hefty income from those gamblers.

[Zicadis]

Maybe there is a method which can work to defeat the system, but I don't think that every gambler can do that because that will require genius skills. We can only play gambling without having a big chance to win the games, but for sure, we only lose the money at all time. But I am sure that there is a person who can win the game with his luck and that happens only for a few people.

Gambling is gambling. it is impossible for someone to change a destiny in the future except that the game depends on skill. it's totally different from gambling, which relies entirely on luck. if I myself consider gambling the game of mental fighting and guts. and brought with fun not to gettin stress. which I believe there is no method for getting rich through gambling. unless you are the one who runs the gambling business itself.

Well, there is the off-chance that so-called randomly generated results aren't as random as they first appear.

Plenty of people claim to be able to reverse engineer the results-generation algorithm, however, the vast majority are lying scumbags.

[Aero Blue]

Maybe there is a method which can work to defeat the system, but I don't think that every gambler can do that because that will require genius skills. We can only play gambling without having a big chance to win the games, but for sure, we only lose the money at all time. But I am sure that there is a person who can win the game with his luck and that happens only for a few people.

Gambling is gambling. it is impossible for someone to change a destiny in the future except that the game depends on skill. it's totally different from gambling, which relies entirely on luck. if I myself consider gambling the game of mental fighting and guts. and brought with fun not to gettin stress. which I believe there is no method for getting rich through gambling. unless you are the one who runs the gambling business itself.

Well, there is the off-chance that so-called randomly generated results aren't as random as they first appear.

Plenty of people claim to be able to reverse engineer the results-generation algorithm, however, the vast majority are lying scumbags.

They are "random" but the only way you could possibly circumvent the system that current gambling websites use is to crack the hashing algorithm. Usually any big gambling website has a "provably fair" system in which you can verify the results of the dice roll. However, after a lot of these hashing algorithms got cracked, they made them a lot stronger. Basically the good days are over for hash cracking, as people got smart and started using somewhat secure hashing algorithms and not default ones.

[bitgolden]

Most time that I gamble, I do not go with the mindset of having a strategy to win the game, I just pray to my God and the gamble with the mindset of playing with luck. Gambling is a game of luck and only God can allow it to shine on you, I am sure many people will be wondering if God is with a gambler, I will say yes and no, everything we see on earth was created by GOD, and who created luck, is it not GOD, so he can decide to look at my motive of gambling and then allow the luck to shine on me.

Where luck does not work that much, are people that gamble out of stupidity, let’s say these millionaires that says they gamble for fun, I see it’s stupidity because that money he has gone to waste in that gambling site could have as well been used for a motherless children, but I gamble because I think I could make more money for my family upkeep. The only gambling games I usually see strategy work is card game, the odd of winning is there.

[Becky666]

Maybe there is a method which can work to defeat the system, but I don't think that every gambler can do that because that will require genius skills. We can only play gambling without having a big chance to win the games, but for sure, we only lose the money at all time. But I am sure that there is a person who can win the game with his luck and that happens only for a few people.

Genius skills doesn't really matter when we talked about gambling especially the dice gambling platform's which the possibility of a gambler winning the games against the house is very minimal, but that of poker gambling platform's has some skills that can actually guaranteed a player a win if adhere to that rules of the games, so, OP will work on dice but for poker it is possible to win consecutively.

[udidrone]

Every play gamble, i always think our chance is reseted after 1 gameplay. I mean every action that we take actually have same chance and not means if we play several times, our chance will be higher to win in a gambling game for example like dice.

[emberbekas]

There is no working strategy in gambling that is why people creating many strategies and saying that it will work and it might worked.

but this is nothing more than luck if the strategies we are using working for us and only for very short time.

True, there is no strategy that will give us a steady profits if we use it continuously. Indeed, strategy can work sometimes, but it won't last long. That's why we need to manage our balance and have to know when to end our gambling session or otherwise, we will lose more and more. Let's make simple logic. If there is a strategy to give us a steady profit in gambling, will there still be a casino?

[Betwrong]

I read a thread today that a man won the lottery 12 times and he did so by creating an algorithm and he managed to do it so the system can be beaten but it take a genius to do it.Almost all normal gamblers who know nothing of algorithms they just play their way and although many of them say they know the secret they don't.I agree that everyone should play the way they feel more comfortable playing.Gambling should not be stressful otherwise addiction is right behind the door.

Here we go again! So, is there a possibility that someone can invent a "winning method" or there is no such possibility? I think it is the latter because no genius can hack math. Read carefully the famous story how MIT students won $8 million in the Massachusetts Lottery, and you'll see that it happened because of the mistake of the organizers, not because of some miraculous(or genius) algorithm. The "mistake" was actually an intentional one, but that's another story. If you haven't read it, it's worth reading.

In short, even if someone had won 12 times in a lottery, he was just lucky and that's it. Don't buy his method, you will not increase your chances of winning by doing so. Don't buy any "winning methods" because they are no better than those you can invent by yourself.

Yea I think people often forget that most of those stories involved some sort of "exploit". They confuse "exploit" and "method" for some reason. I guess some don't realize the difference between the two.

It's not the most, but rather all of them. If a "winning method" existed, no gambling platforms would survive. People tend to believe that there is a secret method only a few are aware of, and that those few are the same players who have become millionaires because of gambling. But this is just not the case. Indeed there are people who win millions through gambling, but they are neither geniuses nor hard working researchers, and, in fact, absolutely anyone can be in their place.

[logicgate]

There is no working strategy in gambling that is why people creating many strategies and saying that it will work and it might worked.

but this is nothing more than luck if the strategies we are using working for us and only for very short time.

True, there is no strategy that will give us a steady profits if we use it continuously. Indeed, strategy can work sometimes, but it won't last long. That's why we need to manage our balance and have to know when to end our gambling session or otherwise, we will lose more and more. Let's make simple logic. If there is a strategy to give us a steady profit in gambling, will there still be a casino?

  it is surely good to keep your money in your hands, when you start gambling make sure that you have whole command over the game you are betting or gambling. It is much better to invest your miner amount so later on you can increase your amount but no one could give you 100 percent surety to win that’s why better keep learning and choose good strategy.

[omonuyak]

There is no working strategy in gambling that is why people creating many strategies and saying that it will work and it might worked.

but this is nothing more than luck if the strategies we are using working for us and only for very short time.

True, there is no strategy that will give us a steady profits if we use it continuously. Indeed, strategy can work sometimes, but it won't last long. That's why we need to manage our balance and have to know when to end our gambling session or otherwise, we will lose more and more. Let's make simple logic. If there is a strategy to give us a steady profit in gambling, will there still be a casino?

You are right . No strategy can give us continue winning and if such strategies exist it will be manipulation! The gambling system is not designed for continuous winning and because of this you should prepare you mind for sometime things flow in your favor and sometimes it will not flow in your favor! If we can have this conclusion in our mind then we would no that no strategy work for continuous winning.

[gabbie2010]

There is no working strategy in gambling that is why people creating many strategies and saying that it will work and it might worked.

but this is nothing more than luck if the strategies we are using working for us and only for very short time.

True, there is no strategy that will give us a steady profits if we use it continuously. Indeed, strategy can work sometimes, but it won't last long. That's why we need to manage our balance and have to know when to end our gambling session or otherwise, we will lose more and more. Let's make simple logic. If there is a strategy to give us a steady profit in gambling, will there still be a casino?

You are right . No strategy can give us continue winning and if such strategies exist it will be manipulation! The gambling system is not designed for continuous winning and because of this you should prepare you mind for sometime things flow in your favor and sometimes it will not flow in your favor! If we can have this conclusion in our mind then we would no that no strategy work for continuous winning.

Gamblers had used all sorts of strategies to have an edge of winning many games I can only say its a pure luck thus there is never any working strategy or holy grail however what baffles is the proliferation of gambling sites, casinos on the internet that really shows that more gamblers are getting more interest in gambling of course the possibility of some gamblers earning good profits is certain while a lot of losers will also emerges while some might gamble for fun not minding winning or losing.

[monalia]

LOL you are giving mathematics class for we people to win on gambling field.

Do you have any strategy on winning sports bets? I really to bet for football and tennis matches. If there is strategy it will be happy for me

[Polar91]

LOL you are giving mathematics class for we people to win on gambling field.

Do you have any strategy on winning sports bets? I really to bet for football and tennis matches. If there is strategy it will be happy for me

Mathematical approach for determining the odds to win doesn't work in sportsbet as your luck depends on the skills of your chosen team/player. This kind of betting is something that you don't need to defeat the house edge but rather believe on your chosen bet.

[Ziskinberg]

LOL you are giving mathematics class for we people to win on gambling field.

Do you have any strategy on winning sports bets? I really to bet for football and tennis matches. If there is strategy it will be happy for me

Mathematical approach for determining the odds to win doesn't work in sportsbet as your luck depends on the skills of your chosen team/player. This kind of betting is something that you don't need to defeat the house edge but rather believe on your chosen bet.

That's the way how it's played in sports gambling, it's difference from luck based type of games.
Sports gambling is more exciting IMO due to the fact that we can analyze the game we like to bet and we can also see them live, when it comes to transparency, it is more transparent compared to other type of games.

[thisappointed]

In conclusion

Just gamble how you want to, don't feel bad because you aren't missing out on anything. Often times, methods can end up taking more of your money because of the house edge. Even though a lot of people seem to understand that methods don't change your odds, I've still seen plenty of others who believe they work. Please never buy methods, I've seen it happen too many times.

I strongly agree with this, it could just take more money from you because you have this mindset in mind that you must follow the method in order to win, so you are ignoring the loses that you are making in every rolls that you are making because you "know" that eventually you'll win if you'll follow the "method" you have in mind as your strategy to "win", but sadly you are not.

and with that, you are going to be more frustrated because it didn't work in the way you wanted it, therefore forget about this "method" and just simply enjoy every roll and trust your self-luck, or you don't have to try gambling in the first place if you are afraid losing your money.