For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?

[actmyname]

Also, about plagiarism. I don't have time for now, for looking into theymos quotes where he says that if someone net positive he can be unbaned. If whole community supporting someone, doesn't that means that this person is very net positive?

Who is banned and supported by the whole community ? I am not aware of such a case here.

See: ChiBitCTy

Though, since then, ban appeals for "positive community contributions" have come by much faster.

[malevolent]

Also, about plagiarism. I don't have time for now, for looking into theymos quotes where he says that if someone net positive he can be unbaned. If whole community supporting someone, doesn't that means that this person is very net positive?

It means they are a net positive at least for specific people supporting them. The final call is with the admins. You can message them every once in a while until they explicitly tell you 'no', other than that there's nothing you can do.

[IconFirm]

I see there's a new batch of legendary members willing to promote the livecoin scam for payment - how sad it is to see these accounts prostitute themselves so that other unsuspecting forum members can get scammed.

[heavycar]

I see there's a new batch of legendary members willing to promote the livecoin scam for payment - how sad it is to see these accounts prostitute themselves so that other unsuspecting forum members can get scammed.

Every exchange does something sketchy, Im not sure why you guys think livecoin is so special.  Binance has their own shitcoin scam project going.

People need money to survive, its not like it is any worse than advertising a casino.

[actmyname]

Every exchange does something sketchy, Im not sure why you guys think livecoin is so special.  Binance has their own shitcoin scam project going.

People need money to survive, its not like it is any worse than advertising a casino.

"Not as bad as"
"No true scotsman"
"Two wrongs make a right"
"It is the status quo"

[IconFirm]

Every exchange does something sketchy, Im not sure why you guys think livecoin is so special.  Binance has their own shitcoin scam project going.

People need money to survive, its not like it is any worse than advertising a casino.

"Not as bad as"
"No true scotsman"
"Two wrongs make a right"
"It is the status quo"

Exactly. More worrying is the fact that user heavycar only hates scammers if they are non-European/African:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160927.msg51684930#msg51684930

We do not like the Africans because they love to scam, especially Nigerians.  Scamming is in their blood and they don't know how to be good honest people.  Europe has already been invaded by these guys, I don't even recognize my country anymore.

Spoken like a true Nazi.

[AliErkic]

"For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?"

Interesting question if we consider the recent case of Sinbad.io. Next mixer will pop up and get advertised again by heroes and legends .

[hilariousetc]

"For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?"

Interesting question if we consider the recent case of Sinbad.io. Next mixer will pop up and get advertised again by heroes and legends .

Well even if they did pop up here the people who post them and also advertise them would be dealt with given that theymos has now banned them and issued a pre-emptive warning to those that do: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.0

Even like the Dutch Law Enforcement recently said about the Sinbad seizure, mixers aren't inherently illegal so most won't or shouldn't have a moral issue with them but there are always people willing to compromise their morals if they're paid to do so, but morality isn't always a black and white thing either. Some people find alcohol, gambling, sex and sex work immoral whilst others don't.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

"For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?"

Interesting question if we consider the recent case of Sinbad.io. Next mixer will pop up and get advertised again by heroes and legends .

Now the question I did put or throw back at you would be, was sinbad mixer a scam before it was seized by the government? Did or have they in any way scammed you or someone you know? Or have you seen a scam accusation against that was not attended to and resolved?

We know the forum is free for all, and that every user have the liberty to say post what ever they like, but in doing so, try not to be too ridiculous, chipmixer was not a scam, but they were seized and brought down, same thing happened to Sinbad.
Governments are generally cracking down on mixers, that does not mean they are a scam.

[EarnOnVictor]

"For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?"

Interesting question if we consider the recent case of Sinbad.io. Next mixer will pop up and get advertised again by heroes and legends .

Lol...where did you find this old topic? Well, it best fits the situation of the day and is another reminder that people are all for themselves, especially when money is involved.

You will see people preaching who they are but when money is involved, they are a different person. I will not judge anyone, our ideologies are not the same, but in reality, ideology or not, many will go for the money and repent later even if they know they are not guiltless. However, others will never care.

That's our society. My advice is that you play by your own conscience and leave others to theirs.

[OgNasty]

"For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?"

Interesting question if we consider the recent case of Sinbad.io. Next mixer will pop up and get advertised again by heroes and legends .

It was clear when the government started going after mixers that they were not only unsafe to use, but also were considered illegal. People here defended the illegal operations because they were getting a couple hundred bucks per week, claiming it is about privacy and not them getting easy money. I imagine once the ban is in place and these people find other sponsors suddenly they’ll have a change of heart and admit mixers were bad but they didn’t understand the entire problem.

[digaran]

It was clear when the government started going after mixers that they were not only unsafe to use, but also were considered illegal. People here defended the illegal operations because they were getting a couple hundred bucks per week, claiming it is about privacy and not them getting easy money. I imagine once the ban is in place and these people find other sponsors suddenly they’ll have a change of heart and admit mixers were bad but they didn’t understand the entire problem.

It's a grey area, they can both be bad and good at the same time, if you are going to say they are all bad, then think again, what are they actually doing? Mixers are considered a Bitcoin service, if you are against a Bitcoin service then you are against Bitcoin. But please save us the morality lessons. Because guess what? Most people here don't even know what STOLEN means. Guess again, they are mostly alt accounts of a group with mental issues.😉

[Smartvirus]

I wonder why you just centered on the Hero and Legendary category?
Do you have anything against those in that rank or it’s just you taking insights out of the little you’ve seen.

Heros and Legendary are about the few ranks that gives a lot of credibility to their name and reputation on the forum. You might not find a beginner (Newbie - Jr. Member - Member and even Full Member) coming back to try and recover there accounts in events that might result in it being inaccessible but, you would easily find the Hero and Legendary categories not giving up on there account so easily.

This speaks of the years or attachment and the reputation you’ve built in a user. It becomes you, even though it’s just on Bitcointalk.

Yeah, there are situations where you could find a hand full of users making meaningless of there ranks but, these are mainly hacked accounts, accounts that have changed hands and accounts that were not really built over time with the existence of the merit system. It’s just business for these persons and they really get what they deserve forum-wise.

[dkbit98]

Governments are generally cracking down on mixers, that does not mean they are a scam.

Everything governments say it's illegal or scam must be bad, right?  Right??
So let's say if one day government say that Bitcoin is illegal, or walking in the street is illegal and not safe, or using cash is bad and spread disease, you will have to think for yourself before accepting this.
First they introduce concept of ''dirty'' and ''clean'' bitcoins, people accept it, and than circus show is ready to start.
You can use this formula for anything else, just replace word 'bitcoin'' with something else.

[AliErkic]

"For how much money heroes and legends are willing to advertise fraud and scam?"

Interesting question if we consider the recent case of Sinbad.io. Next mixer will pop up and get advertised again by heroes and legends .

Now the question I did put or throw back at you would be, was sinbad mixer a scam before it was seized by the government?

Yes!
For anyone doing at least basic research about Sinbad.io, it's been easy to spot how fraudulent Sinbad.io was: Sinbad.io was a re-launch of Blender, a famous mixer operated by criminals: Crypto mixer Blender has been rebranded to Sinbad, says Elliptic: https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-mixer-blender-has-been-rebranded-to-sinbad-says-elliptic

Have centralized mixers = get shady operators behind it
For Sindbad.io = operators wanted to wash own coins from crimes and hacks, get clean funds from Bitcointalk for mixing.
Sindbad.io operators abused Bitcointalk to have fresh funds for mixing criminal coins.

Sindbad.io operators are SCUM!