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What’s up guys!
A few questions and comments from an occasional player:
1. First and foremost - BY FAR; why did rakeback potential get cut in half, from 30% to 15%? This was done with little to no warning and for mid stakes players, it has a large effect on loss rate. As you knew when you did this and in the manner in which it was done, I’d imagine. The VIP wheel doesn’t come close to making up the difference, as it depends V on losses over a single day period. So one could conceivably lose 25-50k USD on a Friday, return to the platform on Monday, and be EXCLUDED FROM PARTICIPATION. It’s
If you had a thread on a forum moderated by people w zero conflicts of interest, such as 2p2 (biggest in the world by far), the players would skewer Wolfbet for this. It is analogous to the Pokerstars heist from THEIR biggest customers - the SuperNova Elites - who were told in November of 2015 that Pokerstars would no longer be honoring their approx $120k in rewards, after the players had played for 11 months out of the year chasing SNE status. Some considered filing a class action and some organized a boycott. Some did other things. That was the key inflection point and is mostly why there is almost zero action at mid or high stakes. Ultimately, the fine print gave them an out to stiff those players.
2. Myself and another user who has also reached Beta status ($5mm-$10mm handle) have noticed something peculiar, that may be perfectly square, and I’d like to hope our observation is way off the mark. But the big Weds $5k volume race rarely seems to be won by a player who isn’t listed as “hidden”. I have a ton of faith in the crypto gambling world, from an ethical/moral POV (who wouldn’t, am I wrong?). However, enabling players to stay hidden, while they participate in the Wolf Race seems like those less trusting than myself could potentially speculate that a site is pocketing the prizes.
3. I recently had a very disappointing experience with a normally reasonable customer service team (I won’t give their stage name). After having NEVER BEFORE adjusted settings on the flashbet feature, w regards to raising or lowering a wager based on win or loss of the previous roll, I set a $0.52 100 roll flashbet w the goal to hit under 7 and/or under 9 a few days ago. I went to work and then began my FIRST FLASHBET SESSION OF THE DAY - only to find that .165 btc was “missing” and the 100 rolls only lasted 24 rolls before I received the “you’re broke, no more flashbet for you” sign.
Having been completely perplexed by now, I went back to my session ID to find that my settings had been changed to raising my wager 6% after a win (under 9) and to increase by 60% after a losing roll. It would be impossible to accomplish anything but going bust, if using these settings - it’s not like there’s a chance my on-site bankroll - or anybody else’s- could do anything but go bust with those settings.
My playing history backed up my assertion. I’d have been better off donating to charity lol - which I ended up doing to punish myself and remind myself to be grateful for the things I do have. But I strongly felt and feel an inadvertent adjustment or update to my settings had occurred when I was off line. Perhaps there was a software glitch. Or perhaps an update caused an error. I don’t know anything other than that I did not, under any circumstances, manually write in 6% and 60% into fields I had previously never used.
The manager I deal with is usually reasonable. Not this time. I received ZERO refund, as is their right. I was told that it was of my own doing and the software only performs w the settings the user implements. I don’t mind losing - whether it was this $7,500 or the other $200,000-$300,000 I’ve spent on Wolfbet as part of my leisure budget. Being told I was essentially either lying or incompetent - I didn’t appreciate that so much.
As some of you know, I’ve given away $1000’s in tips across different platforms. I offered to re-deposit immediately AND make the chat rain, if they would refund the .165 btc. No further response from them.
I have also noticed the software reload in the middle of a Hilo hand or dice roll. I often wonder why that is . . .
- Timmy88
I have also noticed the software reload in the middle of a Hilo hand or dice roll. i don't know why some times dice get too slow
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Hello admin, I want you to know that MOD'S of english chat room are biased, there are group of people on english chat room ( Some mods and normal users ) The MOD'S of the English channel BAN us at the instance of their people ( group people ) one of english channel MOD ban me for just only one line of other language that i speak in english chat, He/she didn't warn me even once. ( You know, when MOD ban someone, it appears in chat? he/she deleted that ban message, so no one can see that he/she ban me. after ban i contact to support ( LUIZ ) he said i can't do anything.
PLEASE TAKE PROPER ACTION AGAINST THE MOD ( @Lanceluther26 )
Hey! Could you send an email to our support with some screenshots supporting your claims? Thank you! And we're sorry you've encountered issues on our platform. I just sent the email yesterday with 5 screenshots. Got it! The team should get back to you shortly. It has been 4 days but there is no response from admin or support yet, When I contacted support via live chat 4 days ago, the support said that the admin would reply within 24 to 48 hours, but it's been 4 days, but no response from the admin or support yet,
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March 09, 2021, 07:51:03 AM |
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It has been 4 days but there is no response from admin or support yet,
When I contacted support via live chat 4 days ago, the support said that the admin would reply within 24 to 48 hours, but it's been 4 days, but no response from the admin or support yet,
Just wait for their reply. Nothing else you can do right now, except waiting. Hopefully they will reply you today because bitcoin price back to $54,000. Fyi, we are only allowed to bump a thread once in 24 hour, so don't make repetitive post after you created one.
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March 09, 2021, 09:32:26 AM |
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If there will be a sportsbook, I will give it a try. I only like to play on sports. I am not a bog fan of casino.
Well, yeah even I am a sports bettor and it's better to have more options on the same site, I sometimes roll dice at wolf.bet but then have to withdraw and play at another site for sports betting so if they implement sports betting soon that would be really cool. I would also request the team to consider adding some slots if possible because although dice and other provably fair games are good but having some 3rd party slots will add a new flavor because I have to admit sometimes it feels boring to play the same game and roll dice all the time. Really excited for the new update and also hoping that sports betting counts towards wagering as it does for other casinos/sportsbooks. Third-party slots are definitely coming soon to wolf.bet
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March 09, 2021, 09:52:03 AM |
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If there will be a sportsbook, I will give it a try. I only like to play on sports. I am not a bog fan of casino.
Well, yeah even I am a sports bettor and it's better to have more options on the same site, I sometimes roll dice at wolf.bet but then have to withdraw and play at another site for sports betting so if they implement sports betting soon that would be really cool. I would also request the team to consider adding some slots if possible because although dice and other provably fair games are good but having some 3rd party slots will add a new flavor because I have to admit sometimes it feels boring to play the same game and roll dice all the time. Really excited for the new update and also hoping that sports betting counts towards wagering as it does for other casinos/sportsbooks. Third-party slots are definitely coming soon to wolf.bet Can you share the providers coming to the site?
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March 09, 2021, 11:36:30 AM |
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If there will be a sportsbook, I will give it a try. I only like to play on sports. I am not a bog fan of casino.
Well, yeah even I am a sports bettor and it's better to have more options on the same site, I sometimes roll dice at wolf.bet but then have to withdraw and play at another site for sports betting so if they implement sports betting soon that would be really cool. I would also request the team to consider adding some slots if possible because although dice and other provably fair games are good but having some 3rd party slots will add a new flavor because I have to admit sometimes it feels boring to play the same game and roll dice all the time. Really excited for the new update and also hoping that sports betting counts towards wagering as it does for other casinos/sportsbooks. Third-party slots are definitely coming soon to wolf.bet Can you share the providers coming to the site? I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure, but the team will obviously pick the most popular ones ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 10, 2021, 06:16:57 AM |
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If there will be a sportsbook, I will give it a try. I only like to play on sports. I am not a bog fan of casino.
Well, yeah even I am a sports bettor and it's better to have more options on the same site, I sometimes roll dice at wolf.bet but then have to withdraw and play at another site for sports betting so if they implement sports betting soon that would be really cool. I would also request the team to consider adding some slots if possible because although dice and other provably fair games are good but having some 3rd party slots will add a new flavor because I have to admit sometimes it feels boring to play the same game and roll dice all the time. Really excited for the new update and also hoping that sports betting counts towards wagering as it does for other casinos/sportsbooks. When there is a sportsbook type of deal going on, I am sure they are going to be doing it fairly good, they must be working with some developers to make it work as well and that means it could take some time but if a place is doing sportsbook from scratch that means they are serious about this, there is no scenario where one place works really hard this much on something and then leaves for good or doesn't care about customers, they are basically proving that they are in it for being awesome and here forever by doing it by themselves. If they didn't care, they would have just get another providers sportsbook and put it on their website with their own design and that's it, it would be even connected to other place and they would be basically an affiliate for that provider, it would take like a month at tops with a good developer, probably sooner, but they take it seriously and doing it themselves which shows how much they care.
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March 10, 2021, 09:37:42 AM |
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If there will be a sportsbook, I will give it a try. I only like to play on sports. I am not a bog fan of casino.
Well, yeah even I am a sports bettor and it's better to have more options on the same site, I sometimes roll dice at wolf.bet but then have to withdraw and play at another site for sports betting so if they implement sports betting soon that would be really cool. I would also request the team to consider adding some slots if possible because although dice and other provably fair games are good but having some 3rd party slots will add a new flavor because I have to admit sometimes it feels boring to play the same game and roll dice all the time. Really excited for the new update and also hoping that sports betting counts towards wagering as it does for other casinos/sportsbooks. When there is a sportsbook type of deal going on, I am sure they are going to be doing it fairly good, they must be working with some developers to make it work as well and that means it could take some time but if a place is doing sportsbook from scratch that means they are serious about this, there is no scenario where one place works really hard this much on something and then leaves for good or doesn't care about customers, they are basically proving that they are in it for being awesome and here forever by doing it by themselves. If they didn't care, they would have just get another providers sportsbook and put it on their website with their own design and that's it, it would be even connected to other place and they would be basically an affiliate for that provider, it would take like a month at tops with a good developer, probably sooner, but they take it seriously and doing it themselves which shows how much they care. We're glad that our commitment is clear, we are here to stay and to build a good and a reputable platform. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 10, 2021, 02:19:09 PM |
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Looks like the amounts of the 7-Days streaks are lowered. Is that correct? Haven't seen any notification about that.
Is it just lowered to hard amounts or is it now based on a fix amount in $$?
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March 10, 2021, 05:12:42 PM |
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my wolf race wagered was 0.006 BTC, but when I check my Statistics my BTC wagered is 0.0044 is that possible? Something went wrong with BTC wagered
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March 11, 2021, 09:55:32 AM |
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Looks like the amounts of the 7-Days streaks are lowered. Is that correct? Haven't seen any notification about that.
Is it just lowered to hard amounts or is it now based on a fix amount in $$?
Hey! Thanks for pointing it out, I actually forgot to post the announcement here, here is the official statement about this: IMPORTANT! As you know in the last months the price of almost all cryptocurrencies we have on offer drastically increased. Unfortunately, due to that fact, we noticed that more and more farmers/tip abusers/bots are entering our site to receive free coins. Not only they don't add any value to the site but also they increase the cost of maintaining infrastructure. We want to satisfy all of our users but the most important are the ones who actually deposit and are eager to play not to farm. Because of this, we decided to decrease the 7-day streak rewards as well as decrease the rain prize. Thanks to it the minimum withdrawal amount is lower now for coins like Doge, USDT, BTC, ETH.So, while the prizes have decreased, so did the withdrawal amounts. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) my wolf race wagered was 0.006 BTC, but when I check my Statistics my BTC wagered is 0.0044 is that possible? Something went wrong with BTC wagered
We had some issues on the race from the March 7th, but its now fixed, if you reach the support they will guide you through it with the necessary help!
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March 11, 2021, 10:46:27 AM |
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I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure, but the team will obviously pick the most popular ones ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is not really about the "popularity" of it but more about how fair and different they are. There could be basically just 50 different slot games all different from each other so we do not get bored and as long as they are trustworthy your job is done, I am not saying 50 is the perfect number, it could be 10 or 100 it really doesn't matter that much as long as you offer options so that people do not have just one or two, but the idea of having more is better of course, and the fact that we need to see them as trustworthy is very important. You do not provide trust by picking good third party games, you build trust by having wolf.bet covering any mistake that may happen, and as long as you provide that, people trust wolf.bet anyway so even if there is any problems we know that we can trust you. That is why I think slots will be quicker since you could do it very easily.
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I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure, but the team will obviously pick the most popular ones ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is not really about the "popularity" of it but more about how fair and different they are. There could be basically just 50 different slot games all different from each other so we do not get bored and as long as they are trustworthy your job is done, I am not saying 50 is the perfect number, it could be 10 or 100 it really doesn't matter that much as long as you offer options so that people do not have just one or two, but the idea of having more is better of course, and the fact that we need to see them as trustworthy is very important. You do not provide trust by picking good third party games, you build trust by having wolf.bet covering any mistake that may happen, and as long as you provide that, people trust wolf.bet anyway so even if there is any problems we know that we can trust you. That is why I think slots will be quicker since you could do it very easily. It doesn't exactly work like that, when you add third-party providers you are including their catalog of games. And obviously popularity is built on the trust foundation, if a provider wasn't reliable we would not see them getting that popular. Of course, when it comes to issues or problems, we will take full responsibility where it is due. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 11, 2021, 12:28:21 PM |
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The usage of third party providers usually gives you a lot of insurance. Their APIs are professional. You can also consider to rent the whole platform, for some people that might even work better.
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March 11, 2021, 05:17:07 PM |
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I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure, but the team will obviously pick the most popular ones ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is not really about the "popularity" of it but more about how fair and different they are. There could be basically just 50 different slot games all different from each other so we do not get bored and as long as they are trustworthy your job is done, I am not saying 50 is the perfect number, it could be 10 or 100 it really doesn't matter that much as long as you offer options so that people do not have just one or two, but the idea of having more is better of course, and the fact that we need to see them as trustworthy is very important. You do not provide trust by picking good third party games, you build trust by having wolf.bet covering any mistake that may happen, and as long as you provide that, people trust wolf.bet anyway so even if there is any problems we know that we can trust you. That is why I think slots will be quicker since you could do it very easily. It doesn't exactly work like that, when you add third-party providers you are including their catalog of games. And obviously popularity is built on the trust foundation, if a provider wasn't reliable we would not see them getting that popular. Of course, when it comes to issues or problems, we will take full responsibility where it is due. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Exactly what gamblers wanted to see, taking full responsibilities in anyhow, that would give everyone an assurance that if you use third-party service providers, it's still your brand name that in control. whatever happened during the game everything is under your responsibilities, I know it's not that easy just to pick one as you mentioned once you deal to that you are bringing everything not just the game but the trust that you'll going to give to each gamblers who already using your service and adding to that are those who'll going to join in after you offer new added services.
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March 11, 2021, 06:04:00 PM |
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Another deal about sportsbook being done from zero is the fact that wolf.bet may need beta testers, after all they do have certain amount of people but they can't have thousands of staff, that means there needs to be thousands of people from few different machines and systems all gambling there in beta to see how it works, that seems to be one of the most important parts when you are building from zero. For example, if you are building from zero at beta phase you do fake money system and let thousands of testers test fake ones, and they test it and gamble and if it works perfectly for 2 weeks straight without issues, you start the alpha and you pay people like 0.1 btc whatever which they are not allowed to withdraw, but it is real money, so they gamble with real money that you give to their accounts, and if that works as well you go to real stuff. I am saying this because whenever beta starts, I would love to test it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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March 11, 2021, 08:22:27 PM |
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Another deal about sportsbook being done from zero is the fact that wolf.bet may need beta testers, after all they do have certain amount of people but they can't have thousands of staff, that means there needs to be thousands of people from few different machines and systems all gambling there in beta to see how it works, that seems to be one of the most important parts when you are building from zero. For example, if you are building from zero at beta phase you do fake money system and let thousands of testers test fake ones, and they test it and gamble and if it works perfectly for 2 weeks straight without issues, you start the alpha and you pay people like 0.1 btc whatever which they are not allowed to withdraw, but it is real money, so they gamble with real money that you give to their accounts, and if that works as well you go to real stuff. I am saying this because whenever beta starts, I would love to test it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Thanks for the valuable suggestion! We will keep you guys updated ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 11, 2021, 08:42:54 PM |
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I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure, but the team will obviously pick the most popular ones ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is not really about the "popularity" of it but more about how fair and different they are. There could be basically just 50 different slot games all different from each other so we do not get bored and as long as they are trustworthy your job is done, I am not saying 50 is the perfect number, it could be 10 or 100 it really doesn't matter that much as long as you offer options so that people do not have just one or two, but the idea of having more is better of course, and the fact that we need to see them as trustworthy is very important. You do not provide trust by picking good third party games, you build trust by having wolf.bet covering any mistake that may happen, and as long as you provide that, people trust wolf.bet anyway so even if there is any problems we know that we can trust you. That is why I think slots will be quicker since you could do it very easily. It doesn't exactly work like that, when you add third-party providers you are including their catalog of games. And obviously popularity is built on the trust foundation, if a provider wasn't reliable we would not see them getting that popular. Of course, when it comes to issues or problems, we will take full responsibility where it is due. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Exactly what gamblers wanted to see, taking full responsibilities in anyhow, that would give everyone an assurance that if you use third-party service providers, it's still your brand name that in control. whatever happened during the game everything is under your responsibilities, I know it's not that easy just to pick one as you mentioned once you deal to that you are bringing everything not just the game but the trust that you'll going to give to each gamblers who already using your service and adding to that are those who'll going to join in after you offer new added services. Sorry to bring their name up here but I was once playing Lightning Dice on Stake (a game from Evolution) and was betting on 3 (that pays 150x) and shortly before the result comes out, which ended up being a 3, my bet got invalidated, I immediately contacted Stake that told me to contact Evolution themselves since its an issue related to them, well, they didn't bother giving me any sort of compensation, just said it was a server error, I didn't win the bet because of it, all this to say that some errors with those providers, at least the live ones can be caused by them and its hard for the site to be the one responsible. But when the issues are caused by the site they should definitely have to assume the responsability.
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justdimin
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March 12, 2021, 04:55:58 PM |
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It doesn't exactly work like that, when you add third-party providers you are including their catalog of games. And obviously popularity is built on the trust foundation, if a provider wasn't reliable we would not see them getting that popular. Of course, when it comes to issues or problems, we will take full responsibility where it is due. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's true, just because one place is popular doesn't mean that it is the best one, think about it this way, there are two games, one of them is listed in 1 website that built it and that's it, there is another game and it is listed in 5000 different websites that provider sold to, which one will be played more? The one that was sold more, that is about marketing of the person that created the game and not about how great it is. This is why I do not agree that the most popular one is the best one, and even providers are like that, the one that does marketing amazingly doesn't mean that they are the best one, I would say you should test them all, popular AND unpopular ones, and you will see that some of the less popular ones could be awesome and just not marketed well enough. This is of course not common like most of the time, it is just a fair warning, because it would be something that might help you, otherwise you could ignore this and 80% chance you will still pick the best one by picking the most popular one.
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Zicadis
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Dump it!!!
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March 15, 2021, 09:35:28 AM |
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If there will be a sportsbook, I will give it a try. I only like to play on sports. I am not a bog fan of casino.
Well, yeah even I am a sports bettor and it's better to have more options on the same site, I sometimes roll dice at wolf.bet but then have to withdraw and play at another site for sports betting so if they implement sports betting soon that would be really cool. I would also request the team to consider adding some slots if possible because although dice and other provably fair games are good but having some 3rd party slots will add a new flavor because I have to admit sometimes it feels boring to play the same game and roll dice all the time. Really excited for the new update and also hoping that sports betting counts towards wagering as it does for other casinos/sportsbooks. Third-party slots are definitely coming soon to wolf.bet Can you share the providers coming to the site? I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure, but the team will obviously pick the most popular ones ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Got it, thanks for letting me know! If playcent is coming I'm already in!
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