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Popped in and seen the slots are now live, congrats wolf.bet. Now get those streamers live and maybe have some giveaways.
Agree in terms of giveaways but in terms of streamers I'd be careful. Twitch has cracked down on affiliate streaming for casinos over the recent months and I think that this is a trend that will continue. People are generally more averse towards sponsored streamers now as well. I would assume that streamers are the best marketing tunnels casinos have. You may or may not do affiliate marketing that way but they can still gamble, gambling is not illegal or anything against the rules of Twitch. It is obvious that we are talking about places that could make a little bit of profit from gamblers. Which means if twitch bans all the gamblers then they are going to lose money too, why would they be okay with it. Of course companies have made a lot of wrong moves before, this is why I wouldn't be really shocked if they ever did that, but so far it looks like it is going to stay same for now. Obviously we are going to see if wolf.bet will do that or not, but it is definitely one of the most profitable ways to do marketing when you can get in front of so many people all at once.
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my account was blocked, and my money is not paid, I did not take any bonuses, I made many deposits and many withdrawals, but today the account is blocked and my winnings have not been paid. https://ibb.co/6mbj44Bhttps://ibb.co/PZcHDYNand today I can't even log into my account https://ibb.co/ZxDyNmKsupport to say something else to wait do not play here, they will block your account and steal your money. the most arrogant thieves that I have met in gambling.
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I tried the flashbet since I think that is a cool feature and I didn't know that it was working already when I clicked it. I would like to ask is there a way to stop the flash bet once it started? I tried to click the middle green button but nothing happened or probably my connection is slow?
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I tried the flashbet since I think that is a cool feature and I didn't know that it was working already when I clicked it. I would like to ask is there a way to stop the flash bet once it started? I tried to click the middle green button but nothing happened or probably my connection is slow?
You can't stop the flash bet once it's placed. Why you want to stop it? Thousands of bets are placed within few seconds in flash bet mode. The bet will stop as it was set up. Like- after reaching max bet, profit limit, win etc. It starts instantly while you click on the flashbet option. Bet settings page get closed and they shows an animation with wolf while the flash bet process runs.
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October 07, 2021, 02:33:07 AM |
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I tried the flashbet since I think that is a cool feature and I didn't know that it was working already when I clicked it. I would like to ask is there a way to stop the flash bet once it started? I tried to click the middle green button but nothing happened or probably my connection is slow?
You can't stop the flash bet once it's placed. Why you want to stop it? Thousands of bets are placed within few seconds in flash bet mode. The bet will stop as it was set up. Like- after reaching max bet, profit limit, win etc. It starts instantly while you click on the flashbet option. Bet settings page get closed and they shows an animation with wolf while the flash bet process runs. Pretty good explanation but some people are new to some features. People need to experiment with all the options to figure out what they do, as well as try to make the best strategy for their goal.
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October 07, 2021, 07:22:17 AM |
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I tried the flashbet since I think that is a cool feature and I didn't know that it was working already when I clicked it. I would like to ask is there a way to stop the flash bet once it started? I tried to click the middle green button but nothing happened or probably my connection is slow?
You can't stop the flash bet once it's placed. Why you want to stop it? Thousands of bets are placed within few seconds in flash bet mode. The bet will stop as it was set up. Like- after reaching max bet, profit limit, win etc. It starts instantly while you click on the flashbet option. Bet settings page get closed and they shows an animation with wolf while the flash bet process runs. Pretty good explanation but some people are new to some features. People need to experiment with all the options to figure out what they do, as well as try to make the best strategy for their goal. Yeah I'm actually new to it and wanted to test out that feature I thought you can pause it in the middle of the process or something like that but it's really nice that there's something like this flashbet since I wanted quick results rather than the normal dice game even if turn of the animation I think it's still slow, yes I see the wolf's animation I though it was loading or something I didn't know that it is working already.
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yahoo62278
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October 08, 2021, 02:12:48 PM |
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I tried the flashbet since I think that is a cool feature and I didn't know that it was working already when I clicked it. I would like to ask is there a way to stop the flash bet once it started? I tried to click the middle green button but nothing happened or probably my connection is slow?
You can't stop the flash bet once it's placed. Why you want to stop it? Thousands of bets are placed within few seconds in flash bet mode. The bet will stop as it was set up. Like- after reaching max bet, profit limit, win etc. It starts instantly while you click on the flashbet option. Bet settings page get closed and they shows an animation with wolf while the flash bet process runs. Pretty good explanation but some people are new to some features. People need to experiment with all the options to figure out what they do, as well as try to make the best strategy for their goal. Yeah I'm actually new to it and wanted to test out that feature I thought you can pause it in the middle of the process or something like that but it's really nice that there's something like this flashbet since I wanted quick results rather than the normal dice game even if turn of the animation I think it's still slow, yes I see the wolf's animation I though it was loading or something I didn't know that it is working already. They have all kinds of settings you can set, just set to stop at 0.00000001 profit and as soon as you're in the positive the flashbet will stop.
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I used the flash bet in a system where it stops after reaching a certain profit, or certain loss. I didn't had too much to begin with so I didn't put any stops on the losses, just stop when you can't wager anymore, but I did put a stop on 10x profit. That actually hit once, normally it never hits and since I have small change here I do not care if it is all gone, maybe 10-15 times I did this and lost it all but it was like maybe 2 bucks that I was gambling with so I didn't care, nothing too important anywhere in the world.
However I ended up gambling with the same thing and won once, and it took me maybe 30 seconds tops, and that was the weirdest feeling in the world. Turning 2 dollars into 20 dollars in 30 seconds. It was really weird because it was so fast, without that speed the idea itself is not really that weird but to do that in 30 seconds? Ever since then I am quite in love with the idea.
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I used the flash bet in a system where it stops after reaching a certain profit, or certain loss. I didn't had too much to begin with so I didn't put any stops on the losses, just stop when you can't wager anymore, but I did put a stop on 10x profit. That actually hit once, normally it never hits and since I have small change here I do not care if it is all gone, maybe 10-15 times I did this and lost it all but it was like maybe 2 bucks that I was gambling with so I didn't care, nothing too important anywhere in the world.
However I ended up gambling with the same thing and won once, and it took me maybe 30 seconds tops, and that was the weirdest feeling in the world. Turning 2 dollars into 20 dollars in 30 seconds. It was really weird because it was so fast, without that speed the idea itself is not really that weird but to do that in 30 seconds? Ever since then I am quite in love with the idea.
Flash bet system is sort of like that. You can't just simply bet it and leave, you have to put reasons for it to stop as well. Without putting a reason to stop, it is so big that if you let it be forever then it will lose, there is no other scenario that could happen, you will end up with zero and there is no alternative. The only way you could either win or just not lose it all would be to put parameters in so that system would know when to stop. For example, if you put "stop when profited this much" then it will stop there, and you will have a profit and you won't have to worry about losing that, or if you put "stop when it lost this much" then it is similar to stop loss in trading as well. There are countless others as well, you need to check every single one of those and put that data in so that system would not just simply gamble until it loses it all.
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I have published my honest wolf.bet review today, and want to receive a commentary from the casino management regarding one situation that happened during my review. So I have reached the live support to understand more about the withdrawal fees that your casino is deducting: Here is my chat with the support agent: Here is the screenshot, where you can see the transaction fee that my cashout was sent with: I was able to make a deposit same day paying 30 times less in fees: After asking the support regarding this matter, another guy stated this: My questions are:- Why there are controversial answers provided by different support agents?
- Why do you send the transaction with a 30 times higher bitcoin network fee than actually needed?
- You have spent only half of the deducted amount to sent the withdrawal. How did you spend another part of the deducted amount?
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October 11, 2021, 08:53:45 PM |
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- Why do you send the transaction with a 30 times higher bitcoin network fee than actually needed?
0.00043 BTC at current rates is equivalent to around 25 bucks which is completely messed up. I have no idea why some gamblers are okay with such exorbitant fees just because they provide alternate cryptocurrencies with cheaper fees. I sent close to 300 bucks recently with a network fee of only 1-6 sat/vB which is a miniscule fee when compared to 25 bucks. Wolf.bet needs to learn from sites like Bitcasino which literally charge zero withdrawal fees.
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October 11, 2021, 08:58:21 PM |
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- Why do you send the transaction with a 30 times higher bitcoin network fee than actually needed?
0.00043 BTC at current rates is equivalent to around 25 bucks which is completely messed up. I have no idea why some gamblers are okay with such exorbitant fees just because they provide alternate cryptocurrencies with cheaper fees. I sent close to 300 bucks recently with a network fee of only 1-6 sat/vB which is a miniscule fee when compared to 25 bucks. Wolf.bet needs to learn from sites like Bitcasino which literally charge zero withdrawal fees. I disagree with you on many points, but here I fully agree with you. Sometimes it seems to me that these delays are due to the fact that the hot wallet of casinos is too small, and it is not controlled on an ongoing basis. When in a certain period there are more payouts than loses, the hot wallet is empty and such delays occur. In my opinion, it's quite unprofessional.
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October 11, 2021, 11:04:14 PM |
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My questions are:- Why there are controversial answers provided by different support agents?
- Why do you send the transaction with a 30 times higher bitcoin network fee than actually needed?
- You have spent only half of the deducted amount to sent the withdrawal. How did you spend another part of the deducted amount?
First of all, just want to mention that you are the guy who does the most amazing and full, detailed and very structural reviews of crypto casinos! According to bitcoinfees.earn.com the fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 102 satoshis/byte, in your case that would result in the deducted amount of fee, i.e. 0.0002 BTC. I usually don't use the fees that are provided by Blockchain.com Many times when I used their calculations, I ended up receiving payments after multiple hours or even after a day. But... But right now, fees from them are right, just checked on a lot of websites and right now in order to get 2 input/output transaction confirmed in 60 minute, you have to pay 15 satoshis/byte. Seems they are taking information about fees from bitcoinfees.earn.com ?
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October 13, 2021, 08:27:21 PM |
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First of all, just want to mention that you are the guy who does the most amazing and full, detailed and very structural reviews of crypto casinos!
According to bitcoinfees.earn.com the fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 102 satoshis/byte, in your case that would result in the deducted amount of fee, i.e. 0.0002 BTC. I usually don't use the fees that are provided by Blockchain.com Many times when I used their calculations, I ended up receiving payments after multiple hours or even after a day. But... But right now, fees from them are right, just checked on a lot of websites and right now in order to get 2 input/output transaction confirmed in 60 minute, you have to pay 15 satoshis/byte. Seems they are taking information about fees from bitcoinfees.earn.com ?
I also believe that paying a little extra so that you could withdraw from casino is a very important thing. You could wait for it from some other person because you could chat with them and ask how it is going or check blockchain if it is gone and so forth, you could do that from an exchange because you can see it there and you know what is going on and it is riskless. But, when we are talking about a casino I feel like we should be very careful about it, like take your money out of a casino as soon as possible the moment the you want it and you should be getting in a minute or less. The reason for this is that the longer you linger the more you may end up spending, so pay a little more but get out right away.
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yahoo62278
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October 13, 2021, 08:33:08 PM |
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But, when we are talking about a casino I feel like we should be very careful about it, like take your money out of a casino as soon as possible the moment the you want it and you should be getting in a minute or less. The reason for this is that the longer you linger the more you may end up spending, so pay a little more but get out right away.
This sounds like a personal problem, not a casinos problem. Players need to have self control instead of no control and having to gamble until broke.
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Justn85
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October 13, 2021, 08:51:22 PM |
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Hey,
Can someone tell me something about the bookmaker? Good limits? Serious bookmaker, not like Betop?
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Haunebu
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October 13, 2021, 10:42:14 PM |
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Hey,
Can someone tell me something about the bookmaker? Good limits? Serious bookmaker, not like Betop?
Are you talking about Wolf.bet's sportsbook section? If so, they do offer legitimate services since they have been around for sometime now and the limits are decent(Don't expect very high limits). You can find great odds with value here now and then though you need to check thoroughly. Never used Betop, but Wolf.bet is definitely legit though their withdrawal fees are on the higher side.
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Lanatsa
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October 13, 2021, 10:46:14 PM |
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Hey,
Can someone tell me something about the bookmaker? Good limits? Serious bookmaker, not like Betop?
Are you talking about Wolf.bet's sportsbook section? If so, they do offer legitimate services since they have been around for sometime now and the limits are decent(Don't expect very high limits). You can find great odds with value here now and then though you need to check thoroughly. Never used Betop, but Wolf.bet is definitely legit though their withdrawal fees are on the higher side. So he do basically talks about Betop.gg and here's their ANN thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328184.0So seeing that they had just started of this year and I wasn't honestly aware of their existence until it had been mentioned as of this post. Whenever you do tend to compared it on Wolf.bet then I could say that this site is way more better but doesn't mean that Betop is bad its up on your personal choice though.
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Justn85
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October 14, 2021, 06:25:25 AM |
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Hey,
Can someone tell me something about the bookmaker? Good limits? Serious bookmaker, not like Betop?
Are you talking about Wolf.bet's sportsbook section? If so, they do offer legitimate services since they have been around for sometime now and the limits are decent(Don't expect very high limits). You can find great odds with value here now and then though you need to check thoroughly. Never used Betop, but Wolf.bet is definitely legit though their withdrawal fees are on the higher side. Hey, yes, exactly I'm talking about Wolf.Bet's sports betting. Betop is unfortunately a scam, still waiting for my payout there. Do you have other reputable crypto sports betting providers? Thank you for your answer :-)
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