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July 24, 2019, 07:16:48 AM
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July 28, 2019, 11:31:07 AM
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I'm interested in joining but it seems you aren't calculating the ROI but you are calculating the ROC
what are the books that you quote the prices from ? BTC books or fiat ?
also any chance you send the picks through telegram ? discord is really not that much suitable for picks and telegram is much better

anyways let me know when you see my post
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July 29, 2019, 05:43:02 PM
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I'm interested in joining but it seems you aren't calculating the ROI but you are calculating the ROC
what are the books that you quote the prices from ? BTC books or fiat ?
also any chance you send the picks through telegram ? discord is really not that much suitable for picks and telegram is much better

anyways let me know when you see my post

You can find answers of all your questions in the discord channel.

Also there's a discount going on till 01.08.2019 price dropped to 10 €
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August 13, 2019, 03:51:03 PM
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I'm interested in joining but it seems you aren't calculating the ROI but you are calculating the ROC
what are the books that you quote the prices from ? BTC books or fiat ?
also any chance you send the picks through telegram ? discord is really not that much suitable for picks and telegram is much better

anyways let me know when you see my post

You can find answers of all your questions in the discord channel.

Also there's a discount going on till 01.08.2019 price dropped to 10 €
Today I try to join your channel but every time I have message its invalid channel can you help me in this case.
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August 14, 2019, 05:24:08 PM
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So if you're so good at e-sports betting and such, why sell your secrets? Why not just bet all your money, and some investors money into your bets instead of just selling out for a low sum of money like you're doing.

Probably because the real money is made in having people pay you for bets, instead of gambling.




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August 16, 2019, 08:09:39 PM
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So if you're so good at e-sports betting and such, why sell your secrets? Why not just bet all your money, and some investors money into your bets instead of just selling out for a low sum of money like you're doing.

Probably because the real money is made in having people pay you for bets, instead of gambling.


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August 27, 2019, 10:13:53 PM
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I wonder why no good feedbacks here despite so many of your bumps.
Can someone verify the claim of ROI this guy is making.. ?
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August 28, 2019, 06:15:24 AM
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I wonder why no good feedbacks here despite so many of your bumps.
Can someone verify the claim of ROI this guy is making.. ?

ROI is never close to that number , he just doesn't know what ROI is and he assumes that it's the money won divided on the starting bankroll
I joined the service and don't really like it , the majority of bets have really shitty odds which usually indicates blindly picking up the favorites

also the odds there most of the times aren't obtainable with btc books and the tipster doesn't even mention the book that he quotes the price from which makes it almost impossible to verify if the odds are true or not
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August 28, 2019, 11:02:29 PM
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It's pretty easy to verify odds from hltv also most of the people think esport's odds system same as sport.

Also as i mentioned before CS:GO having a player break we skipped almost 4-5 days in August. It's normal not having the average ROI this month.

odds on hltv are outdated most of the times , not sure about all the sites that they offer but I'm sure about pinnacle and buff where I found most of the times the odds that they are showing not accurate

the whole way that you are tracking results is wrong , people don't care how much you bet so followers don't want to see how many btc you are making
you should start tracking in terms of units and units only , your staking on the sheets getting changed frequently

and ROI isn't how you calculate it , ROI should be like you staked 100K and you got back 120K that means ROI is 20% and it has nothing to do with your bankroll
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August 28, 2019, 11:36:12 PM
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and ROI isn't how you calculate it , ROI should be like you staked 100K and you got back 120K that means ROI is 20% and it has nothing to do with your bankroll
Using your example, is he claiming that ROI is 120% instead of 20%?
I am still wondering why some ROIs seem so high yet from experience it's hard to attain such high percentages especially if you are one person who does so many bets in a month.

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August 28, 2019, 11:49:29 PM
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and ROI isn't how you calculate it , ROI should be like you staked 100K and you got back 120K that means ROI is 20% and it has nothing to do with your bankroll
Using your example, is he claiming that ROI is 120% instead of 20%?
I am still wondering why some ROIs seem so high yet from experience it's hard to attain such high percentages especially if you are one person who does so many bets in a month.

in my example bankroll has nothing to do with ROI , you may have 1 million dollar bankroll but placed only 100K woth of bets and won 20K$ total
the ROI doesn't factor the bankroll and it only relates to how much profit you made comparing it to your stakes

but this tipster isn't calculate it the right way , if you check November sheet for example you would see that he started with 0.1 BTC and ended the month profiting 0.2065
he wrongly posts that ROI in that month is 206% which is completely wrong and misleading as well

people who follow tipsters don't care about these numbers cause this depends on the style , when someone is profiting double of his bankroll in just one month then most likely he is doing stupid bets and risking more than what his bankroll actually affords
by stupid bets I don't mean the actual bets cause bets may be good actually , I guess the better word is he is doing extremely bad money management which will either leads to insane profits or busting the whole roll
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August 29, 2019, 01:52:04 PM
Last edit: August 31, 2019, 08:14:18 PM by mprep
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I didn't understand any word said probably you did not either. Nothing misleading about spreadsheets or calculating ROI



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August 30, 2019, 12:45:48 AM
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I didn't understand any word said probably you did not either. Nothing misleading about spreadsheets or calculating ROI

then you should stop tipping and study sportsbetting more , IDK how you don't even know how to calculate ROI while running a tipping service
read this small article and see yourself if you are doing it right or not

https://www.sportsinsights.com/how-to-bet-on-sports/calculating-sports-betting-roi/
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August 30, 2019, 06:39:26 AM
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I didn't understand any word said probably you did not either. Nothing misleading about spreadsheets or calculating ROI

then you should stop tipping and study sportsbetting more , IDK how you don't even know how to calculate ROI while running a tipping service
read this small article and see yourself if you are doing it right or not

https://www.sportsinsights.com/how-to-bet-on-sports/calculating-sports-betting-roi/



Spreadsheet is automatically calculating it. I double checked nothing wrong about it, finely working.I think you should prove your claims about the faking ROI
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August 30, 2019, 11:26:57 AM
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Spreadsheet is automatically calculating it. I double checked nothing wrong about it, finely working.I think you should prove your claims about the faking ROI

did you open the link I sent ? it clearly explains ROI and you or your sheet are doing it wrong
how can people trust a tipster who doesn't know what ROI is ??

I don't need to prove anything the link clearly explains what ROI is and if you read that link you would know that your ROI is wrong , just open any month and divide the total profit on your total stake and you will see that your ROI is nowhere close to 117%

also your whole staking is wrong , every month you have different stakes and you aren't calculating your stakes in unit
professional tipsters will tell their followers to stake something between 1-10 points , but your sheets clearly showing that you aren't doing that and you are just putting random stakes
in February alone you made 10 bets where you staked 0.1 BTC or more , and magically 9 picks of these 10 won  Roll Eyes

everyone can profit after faking the numbers , there is no proof that you are recommending your followers how much to stake especially when comparing it with your sheets

everyone can be a winner on papers if he can fake how much he staked , I can tell people that I made a lot of 1000$ bets and magically they all won while I lost some of 500$ bets
so you can easily be faking the numbers , the picks may be right but the stakes are probably fake
it's like you say bet certain match , if it lost you record the stake 0.05 BTC but if it won you record the stake as 0.1 btc or more ( that's what I'm seeing in the sheets honestly )

and please note that I tried your service , I do track a lot of tipsters and people here in the forums know that I'm honest about my reviews
you don't mention the source of odds as well which may be faking odds as well , I wasn't able to get the odds for the majority of your picks
also in February you staked a lot of BTC and I'm 100% sure you can't stake that much on BTC sites

you had a lot of games where odds were quoted from buffbet and when I tried to bet I found that limits are less than 3$ for these events , so no idea how you are betting that much


don't understand that I'm judging you , you might actually be good but I'm telling you the following facts so you may improve in the future :
1- this isn't how ROI is calculated
2- you should change the staking plan to units so it makes it more accurate to follow the stats
3- you should mention the source of odds and not count on hltv since they have wrong odds most of the times
4- limits on a lot of the games you quote are really tiny especially the ones from buffbet
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August 30, 2019, 03:20:23 PM
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the way you are calculating it is about how much money you are profiting a month divided on your starting bankroll , but your followers don't care about this
they need to know how much money you are profiting on average for each bet

so as a tipster when you say your ROI is 117% that means for every 100$ bet your followers are expecting to make 117$ which is insane and not accurate
if you want I can send you links for reputable tipping sites for real tipsters and you can check their stats by yourself

also why don't you try blogabet for your picks ? this way they can track all your bets and record your stats exactly
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August 30, 2019, 04:12:45 PM
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here is a screenshot from one of the tipsters on tipstrr platform



you can see for the 10/10 stakes he made 178 bets which means he staked 1780 units staked and he profited 493.61 units which means his ROI is 27.7% which means for every 100$ bet you are expected to win 27.7$

followers don't care about your starting bankroll or how much you win of that bankroll at the end of the month since everyone has a different strategy for managing bankroll , this is the professional way of calculating ROI

aren't you really familiar with this concept ? this is the real ROI that matters for tipsters and this is the way to determine if the tipster is good or not ( of course when it's combined with a large sample )
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August 30, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
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August 31, 2019, 05:21:13 PM
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Results of today:


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