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December 15, 2023, 05:12:40 AM
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It would have been a much better contest if it was PM XI vs Pak.

They are just piling runs here, 476/7 and counting but I don't understand why comms for the most part keep pointing out that it's a tough pitch to bat on. I know Pak's bowling looked pretty toothless so far but the pitch is not tough at all, especially for the home team. There must be some tired legs in the Pakistani camp but hope they cross at least 300 runs in their inning.

The pitch is not an issue, but may turn bad by the end of the second day. Aamer Jamal has already taken 4 wickets in just 19 over and I feel another one is coming to him shortly. Already the youngster is looking motivated after taking 4 wickets and a fifer would be great for his stats. Already the scoreboard is looking good for the Australian side and if they are able to add another 30 runs then it won't be easy for the Pakistani batters.
 
I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?

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December 15, 2023, 05:28:32 AM
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I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?
Lol! You're right. They ended up posting a huge target of around 487 runs though they could have surpassed 500 if it wasn't for Jamal ripping into the tail-enders. He performed admirably though he needs to stop leaking so many runs.

Warner and Marsh were the highlights. Pakistan could lose the first test by an innings if they don't bat smartly.

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Given the fact that they sent a very inexperienced squad, I would say that Pakistan did well to restrict Australia to 346/5 in the first day. Now they are 416/6, as Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey added 90 valuable runs for the 6th wicket partnership. Now Mitchell Starc has come out to join Marsh, and there is a good chance that Australia may get to a total of 500 plus. In that case, avoiding follow on will be difficult for Pakistan. Australia has a full strength attack, which includes Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon and Josh Hazlewood.   

Australia concluded there innings at 487 runs. Pakistani bowlers have done a decent job, apart from picking the wicket of Warner very late. As usual they were sloppy in field, missed catches and stumping chances. All these blunders allowed Australia to score 487 runs. Now it will be interesting to see how Pakistan respond to this total of 487. There are high expectations from Babar Azam and I hope Pakistan has the ability to score 300 or more runs.
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December 15, 2023, 05:42:24 AM
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I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?
Lol! You're right. They ended up posting a huge target of around 487 runs though they could have surpassed 500 if it wasn't for Jamal ripping into the tail-enders. He performed admirably though he needs to stop leaking so many runs.

Warner and Marsh were the highlights. Pakistan could lose the first test by an innings if they don't bat smartly.

I was expecting a 5 wicket haul, but this guy surpassed it and got 6 wickets. Only because of him that Pakistan was able to restrict Australia to 487 which is still a big target. I think Warner was the player who gave Australia a good start, all other except Marsh were just not up to the level required to bat in test format. It won't be easy for Pakistan to chase those runs and if they want to then they would need a good partnership.
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December 15, 2023, 05:43:33 AM
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Given the fact that they sent a very inexperienced squad, I would say that Pakistan did well to restrict Australia to 346/5 in the first day. Now they are 416/6, as Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey added 90 valuable runs for the 6th wicket partnership. Now Mitchell Starc has come out to join Marsh, and there is a good chance that Australia may get to a total of 500 plus. In that case, avoiding follow on will be difficult for Pakistan. Australia has a full strength attack, which includes Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon and Josh Hazlewood.   

Australia concluded there innings at 487 runs. Pakistani bowlers have done a decent job, apart from picking the wicket of Warner very late. As usual they were sloppy in field, missed catches and stumping chances. All these blunders allowed Australia to score 487 runs. Now it will be interesting to see how Pakistan respond to this total of 487. There are high expectations from Babar Azam and I hope Pakistan has the ability to score 300 or more runs.

The Australian team ended the first innings but scored 487 runs, a huge score for the Pakistani team. The batsmen of the Australian team performed well in the beginning, but the fall of wickets was high towards the end of the match. However, if the Pakistan team can stay on the field with patience today, there will be a chance of meeting the target of 487 runs. If the Pakistan team can finish the first day of the first innings without a wicket today, they will certainly be able to collect a good number of runs. Shafique and Imam-ul-Haq entered the field as the opening batsmen of the Pakistan team and the duo must be strong.

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December 15, 2023, 05:57:48 AM
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I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?
Lol! You're right. They ended up posting a huge target of around 487 runs though they could have surpassed 500 if it wasn't for Jamal ripping into the tail-enders. He performed admirably though he needs to stop leaking so many runs.

Warner and Marsh were the highlights. Pakistan could lose the first test by an innings if they don't bat smartly.

I was expecting a 5 wicket haul, but this guy surpassed it and got 6 wickets. Only because of him that Pakistan was able to restrict Australia to 487 which is still a big target. I think Warner was the player who gave Australia a good start, all other except Marsh were just not up to the level required to bat in test format. It won't be easy for Pakistan to chase those runs and if they want to then they would need a good partnership.
Australia team collected 487 runs based on David Warner's great innings.Out of Australia's 487 runs, David Warner alone scored 164 runs and Mitchell Marsh scored 90 runs.Before the start of this match I thought Australia might score 300-350 because Pakistan's bowling line-up is very strong but Pakistani bowlers failed to prove it.But Pakistan's fast bowler Aamer Jamal has to be credited as he single-handedly took six wickets against Australia otherwise Australia could have scored more runs.
Now Pakistan comes to bat and they have already collected nine runs.Best wishes to my beloved team Pakistan.

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December 15, 2023, 06:04:39 AM
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I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?
Lol! You're right. They ended up posting a huge target of around 487 runs though they could have surpassed 500 if it wasn't for Jamal ripping into the tail-enders. He performed admirably though he needs to stop leaking so many runs.

Warner and Marsh were the highlights. Pakistan could lose the first test by an innings if they don't bat smartly.

I was expecting a 5 wicket haul, but this guy surpassed it and got 6 wickets. Only because of him that Pakistan was able to restrict Australia to 487 which is still a big target. I think Warner was the player who gave Australia a good start, all other except Marsh were just not up to the level required to bat in test format. It won't be easy for Pakistan to chase those runs and if they want to then they would need a good partnership.

Aamir Jamal had a wonderful debut! Congratulations on taking six wickets in a Test match against the World's best side on their home turf – that's serious achievement. Thanks to Jamal's performance, Pakistan managed to wrap up Australia's innings shortly after lunch. Mitchell Marsh falling just 10 runs short of a well-deserved hundred, however Australia finished their innings at 487 runs. While it's a challenging task, Pakistan has at least kept Australia below 500. Now, it's the Pakistani batters' turn to make the most of the opportunity.

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December 15, 2023, 06:30:01 AM
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The Australian team ended the first innings but scored 487 runs, a huge score for the Pakistani team. The batsmen of the Australian team performed well in the beginning, but the fall of wickets was high towards the end of the match. However, if the Pakistan team can stay on the field with patience today, there will be a chance of meeting the target of 487 runs. If the Pakistan team can finish the first day of the first innings without a wicket today, they will certainly be able to collect a good number of runs. Shafique and Imam-ul-Haq entered the field as the opening batsmen of the Pakistan team and the duo must be strong.


There are 46 overs to be bowled today, so it won't be easy to not lose even a single wicket. Pakistan must try to score as much runs as possible today and must not play defensive cricket. If Pakistan can bat till stumps of Day 3 then there is fair chance that they can draw this test, which is the only win situation for Pakistan in this game.
Aamer Jamal had a great test debut, picking 6 wickets in his first ever test and that too against Australia.
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December 15, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
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Aamir Jamal had a wonderful debut! Congratulations on taking six wickets in a Test match against the World's best side on their home turf – that's serious achievement. Thanks to Jamal's performance, Pakistan managed to wrap up Australia's innings shortly after lunch. Mitchell Marsh falling just 10 runs short of a well-deserved hundred, however Australia finished their innings at 487 runs. While it's a challenging task, Pakistan has at least kept Australia below 500. Now, it's the Pakistani batters' turn to make the most of the opportunity.

Okay so he is a debutant and that is a big achievement from him playing his first international test match. I looked further into his bio and found out that he is an all rounder. Not sure about the information that I got from ESPN Cricinfo. If he is a all rounder then he is a good find by PCB. Need to see him bat to find out how good he is in scoring runs.

Till now everything is going well for Pakistan as a partnership is brewing between the opening pair. They should continue batting in the same manner till the end of today.
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December 15, 2023, 09:02:10 AM
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There are 46 overs to be bowled today, so it won't be easy to not lose even a single wicket. Pakistan must try to score as much runs as possible today and must not play defensive cricket. If Pakistan can bat till stumps of Day 3 then there is fair chance that they can draw this test, which is the only win situation for Pakistan in this game.
Aamer Jamal had a great test debut, picking 6 wickets in his first ever test and that too against Australia.
Can we expect Pakistan to win this Test?Pakistan must bat very defensively against Australia if they want to win this match.One of the reasons is that Australia scored 487 runs which is a mountain.
However, Pakistan are batting in the third season on the second day of this Test match and they have collected 107 runs for one wicket.
Pakistan still need to cross 380 runs.

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Aamir Jamal took 6 wickets against Australia on his debut match which will be memorable and history in his cricket career.

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December 15, 2023, 09:17:54 AM
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Australia team all out for 487 runs. Pakistan team came out to bat today. 110 runs in 43.4 overs. Pakistan team lost 1 wicket so far. Abdullah Shafique was out for 42 runs off 121 balls. Australia batted well in 1st inns.  Now if you can do well in the bowling line, Australia can still be ahead by many runs. However, Pakistan team is very strong in the batting line. Now wait to see how Pakistan team can perform in batting. Still Pakistan team is behind by 374 runs.

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The strategy of Imam-ul-Haq is working for him, he is playing defensively and giving more chances to Shan Masood to bat. Only 1 wicket was lost and Pakistan is trailing by 372 runs, a partnership in the making. Australian bowlers are not getting much from the pitch being a team playing on their home ground. They would need another wicket before the game ends, if they get another wicket then Babar Azam would come to bat. He would be under pressure which would affect his batting.

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India woman and England woman  between 2nd day start of second inning has been going. Toady India not palying well they have 155 score with lose of 6 wickets.Verma made 33 run in 54 balls and Mandhana made 26 runs in 29 balls and S Rane out at zero run . Now H Kaur and Vastrakar playing  going partnership , if she as well inning they made high score for team so England woman can  come under the pressure. England woman side C Dean palying very well in bowling she took 4 wickets by giving 54 runs in 16 over and Ecclestone she took 2 wickets by giving 72 run in 13 overs

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December 15, 2023, 11:27:36 AM
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The strategy of Imam-ul-Haq is working for him, he is playing defensively and giving more chances to Shan Masood to bat. Only 1 wicket was lost and Pakistan is trailing by 372 runs, a partnership in the making. Australian bowlers are not getting much from the pitch being a team playing on their home ground. They would need another wicket before the game ends, if they get another wicket then Babar Azam would come to bat. He would be under pressure which would affect his batting.


Today Pakistan at last done their job.. Mitchel Marsh makes crucial runs at he end and now Australia hasba good total in the first inining. 487 runs is a good target in a first inining test match. All the players of Australia batted very well and Australia captain along with coach will be happy from their performance.  Aamer Jamal has bowled very fantastic. Although he is a new player and stilm taken 6 wickets while Shaheen Afridi is an old and experienced player but still he took only one wicket. Aamer Jamal is such a player. If he is given a chance in future.  So it will shine as a star for Pakistan team.

 The batting condition of the Pakistan team at the moment is in trouble because if they continue to play like this it is very difficult for them to score 487 runs. Imam-ul-Haq is still in the batting but the run rate is very low. one big difference between both team is, Australia players was so good in scoring runs. Pakistan run rate is very low as compared to Australia.

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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

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Given the fact that they sent a very inexperienced squad, I would say that Pakistan did well to restrict Australia to 346/5 in the first day. Now they are 416/6, as Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey added 90 valuable runs for the 6th wicket partnership. Now Mitchell Starc has come out to join Marsh, and there is a good chance that Australia may get to a total of 500 plus. In that case, avoiding follow on will be difficult for Pakistan. Australia has a full strength attack, which includes Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon and Josh Hazlewood.   

Australia concluded there innings at 487 runs. Pakistani bowlers have done a decent job, apart from picking the wicket of Warner very late. As usual they were sloppy in field, missed catches and stumping chances. All these blunders allowed Australia to score 487 runs. Now it will be interesting to see how Pakistan respond to this total of 487. There are high expectations from Babar Azam and I hope Pakistan has the ability to score 300 or more runs.
Australia managed to score a great score on the first day in their first test match where 487 runs I think is too much. A few cashes and stumping misses saw Australia put up a huge score today, only for a poor performance from the Australian bowlers. Now it is to be seen whether the Pakistan team will be able to complete the target of 487 runs, although the Australian team has already lost two wickets to meet the target. Scored 132 runs in 53 overs for the loss of 2 wickets though none of the players put together a very good pair due to which none reached a century. At the moment, however, Australia still need to collect 355 runs to meet the target, but if Pakistan can keep playing then this target is definitely achievable. If Babar Azam can do something good for the team today then surely the match can successfully reach the good target and give Australia a good lead by completing the target.

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December 15, 2023, 12:32:28 PM
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I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?
Lol! You're right. They ended up posting a huge target of around 487 runs though they could have surpassed 500 if it wasn't for Jamal ripping into the tail-enders. He performed admirably though he needs to stop leaking so many runs.

Warner and Marsh were the highlights. Pakistan could lose the first test by an innings if they don't bat smartly.
I'd have trusted these folks more if they had used the word "Discipline" with the Pakistani bowling lineup but that wasn't the case at all.

Jamal did wrap the tail and 6 wicket haul in his debut series is commendable but tbh he was all over the place and offered plenty of freebies in every over, his wicket ball for Alex Carey was peach tho and could've rattled any batter in the world.

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I'd have trusted these folks more if they had used the word "Discipline" with the Pakistani bowling lineup but that wasn't the case at all.

Jamal did wrap the tail and 6 wicket haul in his debut series is commendable but tbh he was all over the place and offered plenty of freebies in every over, his wicket ball for Alex Carey was peach tho and could've rattled any batter in the world.

Both Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shahzad were a bit wayward at times, and given the fact that they were playing their debut test perhaps the nerves got the better of them. Despite that Jamal got a spectacular 6-wicket haul and without that Australia would have got to a 600+ total. But then what about Shaheen Shah Afridi? He is the most experienced bowler in Pakistan squad and he returned figures of 27-7-96-1. He was neither economical, nor successful. I guess in order to take wickets, he need Naseem or Haris at the other end.

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December 15, 2023, 01:59:52 PM
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I'd have trusted these folks more if they had used the word "Discipline" with the Pakistani bowling lineup but that wasn't the case at all.

Jamal did wrap the tail and 6 wicket haul in his debut series is commendable but tbh he was all over the place and offered plenty of freebies in every over, his wicket ball for Alex Carey was peach tho and could've rattled any batter in the world.

Both Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shahzad were a bit wayward at times, and given the fact that they were playing their debut test perhaps the nerves got the better of them. Despite that Jamal got a spectacular 6-wicket haul and without that Australia would have got to a 600+ total. But then what about Shaheen Shah Afridi? He is the most experienced bowler in Pakistan squad and he returned figures of 27-7-96-1. He was neither economical, nor successful. I guess in order to take wickets, he need Naseem or Haris at the other end.
I am impressed with Khurram Shahzad, yesterday he bowled quite beautifully and he was the only disciplined guy in the Pakistani bowling lineup. Didn't watch his spell today so don't know how he reacted to the 2nd new ball.

Bowling in Australia is not an easy task for the subcontinent bowlers, most of the time bowlers from our part of the world get too excited with the bouncy wickets. Extra bounce and fast paced pitch give them the illusion of being fast (Similar to SENA spinners in India) so they try extra hard and in doing so they leak runs like a club cricketer, some do learn the art if they are given a long rope but for the new guys only time can tell. 

I've noticed this with Afridi, if batsmen start attacking him he goes into his shell and looks quite average and it happens in every format. Having said that today he bowled a good spell with the 2nd new ball but he's nowhere close to what he was 2 years back. Naseem is injured so no point talking about him but he could've been effective here because he take care of his line n length. Regarding Haris, i won't say much as i don't consider him a Test bowler.

Haris Rauf understands his body condition and if he focuses on his financial security by prioritizing T-20, then there is nothing wrong with it.

He has virtually no FC experience, The last time he played a test match on his debut series he gave up after a couple of spells and had to leave the ground so he clearly can't ball more than 10 overs in a test match. Pakistani fans should understand this and management should leave the poor guy alone, On top of that FFS they must stop shaming him and they need to come up with a better solution. Pakistan is lucky that he's not in the team otherwise they could have been 1 bowler short for the next 4 days.

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December 15, 2023, 02:08:11 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve.

Yes, their strike rate was too low. But, hey, this is called test cricket. When you are under pressure and see that opponent bowling nicely, you have to respect the ball and leave it. You have to stay on the wicket as long as you can. It was only the 2nd day. So, I won't blame the openers because of the low strike rate. Even, I would say that was perfect test show from the openers.

It's not like ODI crickets. Batters will come to the crease and they will score 30 from 45 balls and get back to the dressing room. But in test match, someone has to play more than three hundred balls and try to stay on the crease as long as they can.
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