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December 20, 2023, 02:14:28 PM
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More bad news coming out for Pakistan cricket and Pakistani fans. Khurram Shahzad may not be fit to play the second test match. He has complained about a discomfort on his left side during the opening match. He has been sent for a MRI scan, results are still awaited. Pakistan already depleting bowling attack has become an issue. If he is out of the second test than PCB would need to find a suitable replacement for him. He was the one who took 5 wickets in the first test match.
Khurram Shahzad is a big no-no for Pakistan as he did not perform well in the first match against Australia and there is no guarantee that he will do well in the subsequent matches.  So this is not a big bad news for Pakistan. I don't think Pakistan can win matches against Australia if Khurram Shahzad can play. So I don't think it will be a big loss for Pakistan if he is not fit to play the second match.
Sums up a random fanbase's thinking tbh.

Pakistani bowlers took 15 wickets in the first match and Khurram Shahzad bagged 5 wickets in the last match and looked good with the ball in both innings but for some reason, his injury is not a big concern. He might not be able to win the match singlehandedly but in his first outing he looked good enough to hold one end with his disciplined bowling, which is necessary in test cricket.


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December 20, 2023, 02:40:50 PM
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Khurram Shahzad is a big no-no for Pakistan as he did not perform well in the first match against Australia and there is no guarantee that he will do well in the subsequent matches.  So this is not a big bad news for Pakistan. I don't think Pakistan can win matches against Australia if Khurram Shahzad can play. So I don't think it will be a big loss for Pakistan if he is not fit to play the second match.

I am not sure whether you have watched the first test. Without any doubt, Khurram Shahzad was their best bowler. He got only two wickets in the first innings, but then he didn't had much luck. In the second innings he made up for it by taking 3 wickets. In the end Aamer Jamal was the one who emerged as the top wicket taker for Pakistan, but both him and Shaheen Shah Afridi were wayward at times. Only Shahzad bowled with some sort of discipline. And they are going to miss him sorely in the second match.

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December 20, 2023, 02:54:31 PM
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I am not sure whether you have watched the first test. Without any doubt, Khurram Shahzad was their best bowler. He got only two wickets in the first innings, but then he didn't had much luck. In the second innings he made up for it by taking 3 wickets. In the end Aamer Jamal was the one who emerged as the top wicket taker for Pakistan, but both him and Shaheen Shah Afridi were wayward at times. Only Shahzad bowled with some sort of discipline. And they are going to miss him sorely in the second match.

The reason why new bowlers peform well in their initial games is because not much is known about their bowling techniques. Teams like Australia use technology to know in advance about bowling techniques of opponents. Shaheen won't be much useful in this series as necessary work has been done on how to handle him.
Pakistan has got decent batting lineup that has experience of playing in Australia. There is still chance of Pakistan bouncing back in this series
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December 20, 2023, 03:15:33 PM
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Khurram Shahzad is a big no-no for Pakistan as he did not perform well in the first match against Australia and there is no guarantee that he will do well in the subsequent matches.  So this is not a big bad news for Pakistan. I don't think Pakistan can win matches against Australia if Khurram Shahzad can play. So I don't think it will be a big loss for Pakistan if he is not fit to play the second match.

I am not sure whether you have watched the first test. Without any doubt, Khurram Shahzad was their best bowler. He got only two wickets in the first innings, but then he didn't had much luck. In the second innings he made up for it by taking 3 wickets. In the end Aamer Jamal was the one who emerged as the top wicket taker for Pakistan, but both him and Shaheen Shah Afridi were wayward at times. Only Shahzad bowled with some sort of discipline. And they are going to miss him sorely in the second match.

I don’t think you should judge a player after seeing him play only 1 match. Players need time to grow. It was his first match in the national team and he definitely felt the pressure. But I don’t think he performed that badly.

Aamer Jamal was definitely the best bowler for Pakistan in that match no doubt. But as @Sithara007 said, I am not sure whether you have said, He was more disciplined. Pakistan should keep giving him chances to make him ready and be a long-term asset for Pakistan Cricket in this format.

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December 20, 2023, 03:39:52 PM
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If Khurram Shahzad is indeed ruled out of the second Test, it will be very bad news for the Pakistan team. Because Khurram Shahzad performed brilliantly in the first Test. If he doesn't play in the second Test, it will be very damaging for the team. But starting with Shahensha Afridi would not be bad. Shahenshah is in great form. Australia batsmen performed very well in the first innings.If Khurram Shahzad is not able to play, it will be a lot of pressure for the Pakistan team because Pakistan did not bowl very well in the first innings, Australia batted well.
If khuram shahzad didn't played in second test match then chances of pakistan winning test match is very low. Instead of Kharam Shahzad i think Pakistan will select mir Hamaza who is good test bowler also Hassan ali playing the second test match is more chances. Pakistan team needs to improve his bowling department in second test against Australia. In 1st match Pakistan played will 7 Bateman that a bad decision, now Pakistan will take 1 extra fast bowlers in team to win this test match.
Pakistan's chances are already below then your expectations for winning in Australia and with this injury they are going more deep with things can go worst which are already bad for them after end of first test match because they are not prepared for this series, and they will face same consequences which are they already facing in last two decades their batsmen and bowlers been never understand how to face Australians in Australia, and they are doing worst ever things.

Change of coach is also really mess-up because Mohammad Hafeez never been good for this spot with their already coach and other staff are out of the frame without any information which is another issue, but currently all things are going down for them with no good news in near future are expecting from anywhere.

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December 20, 2023, 07:21:43 PM
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The reason why new bowlers peform well in their initial games is because not much is known about their bowling techniques. Teams like Australia use technology to know in advance about bowling techniques of opponents. Shaheen won't be much useful in this series as necessary work has been done on how to handle him. Pakistan has got decent batting lineup that has experience of playing in Australia. There is still chance of Pakistan bouncing back in this series

I don't have much faith in Shaheen Shah Afridi now. He has been performing quite poorly for the last few years. But the plus point for Pakistan is that Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal, the two debutants bowled exceptionally well during the first test. There are plenty of positives to take away from first test for Pakistan. But the problem for second test is that Shahzad will not be available. In all probability, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Aamer Jamal will open the bowling for Pakistan in the second test. Maybe Hasan Ali will be the third pacer. 

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I am not sure whether you have watched the first test. Without any doubt, Khurram Shahzad was their best bowler. He got only two wickets in the first innings, but then he didn't had much luck. In the second innings he made up for it by taking 3 wickets. In the end Aamer Jamal was the one who emerged as the top wicket taker for Pakistan, but both him and Shaheen Shah Afridi were wayward at times. Only Shahzad bowled with some sort of discipline. And they are going to miss him sorely in the second match.

The reason why new bowlers peform well in their initial games is because not much is known about their bowling techniques. Teams like Australia use technology to know in advance about bowling techniques of opponents. Shaheen won't be much useful in this series as necessary work has been done on how to handle him.
Pakistan has got decent batting lineup that has experience of playing in Australia. There is still chance of Pakistan bouncing back in this series
Kind of a weird argument, Being new does help, it could also backfire on debutants and there is no guarantee of success or failure. All teams use the same tactics against their opponents. Using footage, analyzing techniques of opponents etc. It even happens in a domestic circuit so it's not restricted to Australia only. 

If Pakistan can't do the same against the Australian team then they have some serious problems and losing/winning/competing is not one of em.


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December 21, 2023, 01:57:11 AM
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Kind of a weird argument, Being new does help, it could also backfire on debutants and there is no guarantee of success or failure. All teams use the same tactics against their opponents. Using footage, analyzing techniques of opponents etc. It even happens in a domestic circuit so it's not restricted to Australia only. 

If Pakistan can't do the same against the Australian team then they have some serious problems and losing/winning/competing is not one of em.

Agreed. Going with an inexperienced pace attack in Australia can easily backfire upon you. However, both Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal bowled really well in the first test. After the initial fireworks from David Warner, they managed to keep Australia under 500 (that itself if a big achievement). From 238/2, Australia ended up at 487 all out. The two experienced bowlers (Shaheen Shah Afridi and Faheem Ashraf) were the weak links in Pakistan attack. The sole spinner (Agha Salman) also went wicketless in the first test. 

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December 21, 2023, 04:42:36 AM
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Test match of India Women vs Australia Women team has already started. Australia Women came out to bat now. Scored 27 runs in 6.1 overs. But Australia Women team lost 2 wickets. Phoebe Litchfield was out for 0 runs from 0 balls. Phoebe Litchfield  Ellyse Perry is out for 4 runs from 2 balls. Beth Mooney has scored 8 runs from 23 balls. Tahlia McGrath has scored 24 runs from 17 balls. India Women team has started with a great performance in the bowling line. Today's match is at Wankhede Stadium Mumbai.  It has started.

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December 21, 2023, 06:26:21 AM
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Test match of India Women vs Australia Women team has already started. Australia Women came out to bat now. Scored 27 runs in 6.1 overs. But Australia Women team lost 2 wickets. Phoebe Litchfield was out for 0 runs from 0 balls. Phoebe Litchfield  Ellyse Perry is out for 4 runs from 2 balls. Beth Mooney has scored 8 runs from 23 balls. Tahlia McGrath has scored 24 runs from 17 balls. India Women team has started with a great performance in the bowling line. Today's match is at Wankhede Stadium Mumbai.  It has started.
Australia women's team has collected 103 runs for 4 wickets at the moment.Now, however, the lunch break is going on for which the game is stopped for a limited time.
Australia Women's Tahlia McGrath is out after completing her fifty. Australia Women's team still has six wickets in hand, maybe today they can play to their full potential and score 300 plus runs. At the start of the game, I saw the Indian bowlers bowling well and they picked up two Australian wickets in just seven runs.Then gradually the batsmen of the Australian women's team started to get set and started to make runs.

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December 21, 2023, 06:28:52 AM
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Agreed. Going with an inexperienced pace attack in Australia can easily backfire upon you. However, both Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal bowled really well in the first test.
Now hearing that he's ruled out and going back to Pakistan. He has a decent FC career, which means he has enough overs under his belt so not sure how his body broke after just 1 test and it's not like he was bowling on Pindi's pitch. Very unfortunate for sure.

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Pace bowler Khurram Shahzad has been ruled out of the remainder of the Test series in Australia due to a rib stress fracture and abdominal muscle tear.

Shahzad had reported side soreness while bowling on debut in the first Test in Perth and was sent for scans with those revealing the fracture in his left tenth rib
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/khurram-shahzad-ruled-out-of-australia-test-series-1413765


Not a bad start for the Indian W team but it could've been better if Deepti was a little quick at slip and Skipper, spinner and keeper had some experience with the DRS.


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December 21, 2023, 08:02:13 AM
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Australia women's team has collected 103 runs for 4 wickets at the moment.Now, however, the lunch break is going on for which the game is stopped for a limited time.
Australia Women's Tahlia McGrath is out after completing her fifty. Australia Women's team still has six wickets in hand, maybe today they can play to their full potential and score 300 plus runs. At the start of the game, I saw the Indian bowlers bowling well and they picked up two Australian wickets in just seven runs.Then gradually the batsmen of the Australian women's team started to get set and started to make runs.
According to the current situation the Australian women team now lost 5 wickets. And made 156 runs in 50 overs. The situation is saying that they will not go to 300 runs because they are losing the wicket quickly.
Annabel Sutherland and Ashleigh Gardner are playing at this time and I am looking that they will go to 250 runs. By the way This is only one Test match they have remaining two series ODI and T20I. So the remaining series will show that which team is strong.

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December 21, 2023, 09:01:35 AM
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Kind of a weird argument, Being new does help, it could also backfire on debutants and there is no guarantee of success or failure. All teams use the same tactics against their opponents. Using footage, analyzing techniques of opponents etc. It even happens in a domestic circuit so it's not restricted to Australia only. 

If Pakistan can't do the same against the Australian team then they have some serious problems and losing/winning/competing is not one of em.

Agreed. Going with an inexperienced pace attack in Australia can easily backfire upon you. However, both Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal bowled really well in the first test. After the initial fireworks from David Warner, they managed to keep Australia under 500 (that itself if a big achievement). From 238/2, Australia ended up at 487 all out. The two experienced bowlers (Shaheen Shah Afridi and Faheem Ashraf) were the weak links in Pakistan attack. The sole spinner (Agha Salman) also went wicketless in the first test. 

They both were far better than Afridi if compared. They were trying to get a wicket and not bowling for the sake of bowling. Not only that, but they both were bowling a good line and length and in the end they both got rewarded for their effort. I am sure Pakistan will miss Khurram Shahzad in the second test match. They are out of bowlers and I feel this test match is now looking like a practice match for Australia. From 26th the second test will start and we might get the same result as the first match.
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Australia women team vs India women team test match Australia team batting in the first innings. Australia's batsmen's batting performance is not so good due to which India could not score many runs against women's team. Australia Women's team has already lost eight of their crucial wickets on the first day and they may be all out soon. Australia's women's batsmen Alyssa Healy, Beth Mooney, and Tahlia McGrath put in excellent batting performances but could not sustain a partnership after being dismissed, which resulted in a reduced run rate. At the moment Australia women team has collected 194 runs with the loss of eight wickets, India women India women bowled well in today's match, and they might be able to meet the target given by Australia in the second innings and give a huge lead.

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December 21, 2023, 09:54:31 AM
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Australia women's team batted at the start and collected only 207 runs for nine wickets. The performance of the Australian team in the test game is very bad because in the test game one must survive for a long time. The Australian team has become completely helpless against the bowling of the Indian women's team. Bowling performance was so good by Pooja Vastrakar she picked up 4 wickets alone with 53 runs in 16 overs. Today, the Australian team is very likely to lose all the wickets as they are under heavy wicket pressure on the first day.

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December 21, 2023, 10:51:21 AM
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Australia women team vs India women team test match Australia team batting in the first innings. Australia's batsmen's batting performance is not so good due to which India could not score many runs against women's team. Australia Women's team has already lost eight of their crucial wickets on the first day and they may be all out soon. Australia's women's batsmen Alyssa Healy, Beth Mooney, and Tahlia McGrath put in excellent batting performances but could not sustain a partnership after being dismissed, which resulted in a reduced run rate. At the moment Australia women team has collected 194 runs with the loss of eight wickets, India women India women bowled well in today's match, and they might be able to meet the target given by Australia in the second innings and give a huge lead.

Currently, Australia women are all out, and Indian batters are looking good with no loss in cricket. They have a pretty good run rate as well scoring 42 runs in 6.3 overs. Shafali Verma and Smriti Mandhana are looking good and they may achieve a good total.

It can be said that India won on the first day of the test. The Australian bowlers need to show their magic to get back on the front foot. Lauren Cheatle and Kim Garth can't seem to be bothering the Indian batters now as they are scoring runs easily. If I had to predict the end result I think India would win it. But it's test cricket and the best format of the cricket game, and each team has 4 more days to come back in the game.

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December 21, 2023, 11:17:49 AM
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Australia women's team batted at the start and collected only 207 runs for nine wickets. The performance of the Australian team in the test game is very bad because in the test game one must survive for a long time. The Australian team has become completely helpless against the bowling of the Indian women's team. Bowling performance was so good by Pooja Vastrakar she picked up 4 wickets alone with 53 runs in 16 overs. Today, the Australian team is very likely to lose all the wickets as they are under heavy wicket pressure on the first day.

I was thinking that they will hardly to reach 250 runs and now they made only 219 runs. And now India has started their batting and they are going really well in batting Smriti Mandhana and Shafali Verma are playing at this time and they have made 77 runs partnership and still they are playing. India didn't lose a single wicket. If they will continue this performance so I think they will give 150 runs lead to Australian team. India is still looking better as compare to Australia team. And I think India will win this test match. The situation is saying I might be wrong.

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Australia women team vs India women team test match Australia team batting in the first innings. Australia's batsmen's batting performance is not so good due to which India could not score many runs against women's team. Australia Women's team has already lost eight of their crucial wickets on the first day and they may be all out soon. Australia's women's batsmen Alyssa Healy, Beth Mooney, and Tahlia McGrath put in excellent batting performances but could not sustain a partnership after being dismissed, which resulted in a reduced run rate. At the moment Australia women team has collected 194 runs with the loss of eight wickets, India women India women bowled well in today's match, and they might be able to meet the target given by Australia in the second innings and give a huge lead.
1 day of this series Women International and this series was played between India-W team and Australia-W team. Australia team won opportunity for chose bat or bowl first and they took bat first in field. This game was held on Wankhede Stadium and effort of Australia team in batting lineup was not brilliant and entire team was dismissed. Australia-W team set 219 runs target in 77.4 overs by all wickets gone. India-W team chased down 98 target and 121 runs were are trail now. S. Verma wicket was dismissed and he catched up by J.Jonassen bowler and she scored 40 runs in 59 balls and she hitted eight 4s. India-W team lost only one wickets and these S. Rana and S. Mandhana are still batting on pitch, S. Rana scored only 4 runs with one 4s and S. Mandhana scored 43 runs with eight 4s in 49 balls.

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December 21, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
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Now hearing that he's ruled out and going back to Pakistan. He has a decent FC career, which means he has enough overs under his belt so not sure how his body broke after just 1 test and it's not like he was bowling on Pindi's pitch. Very unfortunate for sure.

Well... the workload was very heavy during the first test, after David Warner went berserk. And also, before the test match Khurram Shahzad had played in the tour match against the Australian Prime Minister's XI. He bowled a total of 23 overs in that match. So effectively he broke down after playing two tests. Still it is suspect. Perhaps he carried a minor injury to the first test and the heavy load meant that it got worse. Anyway disaster awaits for Pakistan in the second test, if they are planning to include Hasan Ali in the squad. 

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Now hearing that he's ruled out and going back to Pakistan. He has a decent FC career, which means he has enough overs under his belt so not sure how his body broke after just 1 test and it's not like he was bowling on Pindi's pitch. Very unfortunate for sure.

Well... the workload was very heavy during the first test, after David Warner went berserk. And also, before the test match Khurram Shahzad had played in the tour match against the Australian Prime Minister's XI. He bowled a total of 23 overs in that match. So effectively he broke down after playing two tests. Still it is suspect. Perhaps he carried a minor injury to the first test and the heavy load meant that it got worse. Anyway disaster awaits for Pakistan in the second test, if they are planning to include Hasan Ali in the squad. 
If Khurram was carrying a minor injury then it's painfully hilarious and tells you more about the sorry state of PCB. That's how they broke their bowler's backs, which happened with Ali, Shaheen, Rauf, Naseem and now the poor debutant.

I just hope he gets proper treatment and PCB serious about his fitness otherwise he'll fade away. I like Hasan Ali, yeah he sometimes gets off the road with his bowling but very spirited cricketer.
 

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