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[Sithara007]

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

And without their top batsmen they made 399/5 against one of the best bowling sides in the world! And this was after Ruturaj Gaikwad got out cheaply. The partnership between Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer simply destroyed the Australians. By the time Iyer got out, Australia was far ahead. And I was disappointed with the performance from Australian bowlers. This team once had bowlers like McGrath and Lee, who would have terrorized Indian batsmen in any type of wicket. And now they have bowlers who get deflated on flat tracks.

[Vaskiy]

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

And without their top batsmen they made 399/5 against one of the best bowling sides in the world! And this was after Ruturaj Gaikwad got out cheaply. The partnership between Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer simply destroyed the Australians. By the time Iyer got out, Australia was far ahead. And I was disappointed with the performance from Australian bowlers. This team once had bowlers like McGrath and Lee, who would have terrorized Indian batsmen in any type of wicket. And now they have bowlers who get deflated on flat tracks.

Once after the wicket of Gaikwad good partnership of 200 runs came between Shreyas Iyer and Shubman Gill. The wickets of Shreyas Iyer and Shubman Gill fell consecutively. After that kL Rahul took the responsibility and it was evident every player fulfilled their responsibility. When we talk of legendary bowlers like McGrath and Lee, we should also state that the present day's batsmen were also good enough with better skills to play against those kind of bowling.

[LDL]

It is important to mention that this is not Australia's full-strength bowling attack, but still, the way India is batting, it will be difficult for a bowling attack to restrict them at a low score. We have seen their batting against Pakistan in the Asia Cup against one of the best bowling attacks. I think it will be a rare occasion for a team to go past 400 runs, as the pitches for the World Cup will be different along with World Cup pressure. So a 300 total will be a par score in the World Cup, with few exceptions.
Yes! Spinners will be crucial in this World Cup, and the teams you mentioned do not have a quality spin attack. Those middle overs are important in deciding the fate of the ODI game, and if a team loses the momentum in middle overs, they will lose the match.

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

Although the Indian squad did not include Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, their absence was not felt in the batting performance of Shubman Gill (104), Shreyas Iyer (105), Rahul (52), SKY (72). One thing is clear that if the Indian squad is packed with star players, multiple teams can be packed. But we cannot easily accept that Australia will perform so badly when they come to India. On the tour of South Africa, despite a strong performance in the early batches of the series, Australia were beaten by poor performances towards the end of the matches. The same trend continues in the tour of India, where the Indian team is batting brilliantly in the first innings while Australia are losing by a huge margin at the same venue which may require a lot of accountability in Australia's batting line and bowling line.

[Mahdirakib]

And without their top batsmen they made 399/5 against one of the best bowling sides in the world! And this was after Ruturaj Gaikwad got out cheaply. The partnership between Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer simply destroyed the Australians.

Every batsman of India team belongs to the top category. Some of them used to be in off-form in the last few matches. But Indian batting lineup has become strong again as the players are getting runs continuously. Shubman Gill is the top scorer of ODI cricket in this year. And the good thing is that Suryakumar Yadav is playing some good innings now. His form was very bad a few months ago. Indian batting lineup will be able to destroy any team if they can continue like this. Now India is the most favourite team for the upcoming ODI world cup.

[GigaBit]

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

And without their top batsmen they made 399/5 against one of the best bowling sides in the world! And this was after Ruturaj Gaikwad got out cheaply. The partnership between Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer simply destroyed the Australians. By the time Iyer got out, Australia was far ahead. And I was disappointed with the performance from Australian bowlers. This team once had bowlers like McGrath and Lee, who would have terrorized Indian batsmen in any type of wicket. And now they have bowlers who get deflated on flat tracks.

Once after the wicket of Gaikwad good partnership of 200 runs came between Shreyas Iyer and Shubman Gill. The wickets of Shreyas Iyer and Shubman Gill fell consecutively. After that kL Rahul took the responsibility and it was evident every player fulfilled their responsibility. When we talk of legendary bowlers like McGrath and Lee, we should also state that the present day's batsmen were also good enough with better skills to play against those kind of bowling.

In the beginning, when the partnership grows, confidence increased in every player in the team. Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer have scored 200 runs and Captain Rahul also consistent, Ishan Kishan and Suryakumar Yadav each contributed to the team. Due to which the India team was able to score such a big score. Any good bowler of Australia didn't impact against India. On the other hand, no one was consistent except David Warner for Australia. On 27th September if Australia is to prevent the Whitewash, there is no option for them to win.

[JunaidAzizi]

If India can pile up close to 400 runs against one of the best bowling lineups in the world, then imagine what they can do against weak teams such as Bangladesh and Netherlands. There is a good possibility that new records will be created and 500 plus totals will be scored. Anyway, the matches are being played in India and therefore there is good chance of pitches offering zero support for the bowlers (at least for the pace bowlers). Teams that doesn't have quality spinners, such as Australia, England and Pakistan are going to struggle.

you are right, India's batsmen have the ability to bat responsibly against any strong bowling attack and score big total. Australian bowlers are very experienced, also I thought Pakistan's pace bowling attack is the best in the world right now.  Against these two teams I have seen Indian batsmen perform brilliantly in recent times, this is why I think India is the most favorite team for this year's World Cup.

But the main problem of Indian batsmen is that their performance is somewhat erratic. We have seen India lose badly against Bangladesh, however I think the team will not make such a mistake in the World Cup. And this is the team we will see in the final of the World Cup...

The Indian teams are no doubt very strong nowadays and have good players. The team is good in both bowling and batting. If we talk about the bating then they face anyone and at least one of them definitely makes a century on the other side if you look at their bowling which is too good yesterday they out the Australian batsman on 9 runs. But it could be harder if we say that the Indian team wins this World Cup because there are other teams also that make efforts like England New Zealand and Pakistan to win this cup. During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

[romero121]

If India can pile up close to 400 runs against one of the best bowling lineups in the world, then imagine what they can do against weak teams such as Bangladesh and Netherlands. There is a good possibility that new records will be created and 500 plus totals will be scored. Anyway, the matches are being played in India and therefore there is good chance of pitches offering zero support for the bowlers (at least for the pace bowlers). Teams that doesn't have quality spinners, such as Australia, England and Pakistan are going to struggle.

you are right, India's batsmen have the ability to bat responsibly against any strong bowling attack and score big total. Australian bowlers are very experienced, also I thought Pakistan's pace bowling attack is the best in the world right now.  Against these two teams I have seen Indian batsmen perform brilliantly in recent times, this is why I think India is the most favorite team for this year's World Cup.

But the main problem of Indian batsmen is that their performance is somewhat erratic. We have seen India lose badly against Bangladesh, however I think the team will not make such a mistake in the World Cup. And this is the team we will see in the final of the World Cup...

The Indian teams are no doubt very strong nowadays and have good players. The team is good in both bowling and batting. If we talk about the bating then they face anyone and at least one of them definitely makes a century on the other side if you look at their bowling which is too good yesterday they out the Australian batsman on 9 runs. But it could be harder if we say that the Indian team wins this World Cup because there are other teams also that make efforts like England New Zealand and Pakistan to win this cup. During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

Almost every team have the same problem. If the opening is good, automatically rest of the players will contribute the best. In the match between Australia and India, opening failed but the one down gave hands. This boosted the performance of the middle order and they were able to handle situation without much of pressure. We don't know how far will be the consistency in performance. Top teams on the list will have close competence in the World Cup matches. As said, real match between India and Pakistan hadn't taken place in the Asia Cup. During the World Cup this is going to be really interesting as the bowling unit of Pakistan is strong as India have already shattered the leading Australian bowling.

[JSRAW]

This is why I think India is the most favorite team for this year's world cup. But the main problem of Indian batsmen is that their performance is somewhat erratic . We have seen India lose badly against Bangladesh. But I think the team will not make such a mistake in the world cup . And this is the team we will see in the final of the World Cup...

You guys need to temper your expectations frankly speaking because India usually performs really well in certain matches and underperform badly in critical matches(Eg: Recent WTC final against Australia).

They are number one across all formats which is insane indeed, but high rankings don't always translate to big tournament wins.

True! When you become a favorite for any big event, there is a possibility of being complacent or like Indian management says " 30 minutes of bad cricket" Don't want to hear these words again.

Let's hope no left arm fast bowler takes us by surprise, if it happens then we are practically 3 down in powerplay lol. In the last 5-6 years it happened in literally every crucial match and we never recovered.

[Patrol69]

The Indian teams are no doubt very strong nowadays and have good players. The team is good in both bowling and batting. If we talk about the bating then they face anyone and at least one of them definitely makes a century on the other side if you look at their bowling which is too good yesterday they out the Australian batsman on 9 runs. But it could be harder if we say that the Indian team wins this World Cup because there are other teams also that make efforts like England New Zealand and Pakistan to win this cup. During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

Team India is now the number one team in three formats of cricket. Every one of their players is in great form right now. Whether you say batting, bowling or fielding, the Indian players look much stronger now. India was one of the favorites for the 2023 World Cup till the Asia Cup tournament but now their performance seems to make them one of the best contenders for the 2023 World Cup. 

India have arranged the team in such a way that even number 10 players can bat brilliantly. The performance of every player in the team has made it difficult for India to select the players, where all the players are doing well, who will be left in the eleven, now it has become a big challenge for the team management.

[Haunebu]

During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

Come on! I have no idea why you guys bother with these lame excuses to defend your favourite teams. Fact is that Pakistan lost against India and Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup and they are definitely the underdogs going into the World Cup.

They don't have great spinners and most of their batsmen keep performing inconsistently. Their teammates fighting over various matters makes things worse for them. Think!

[Crypto Library]

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

And without their top batsmen they made 399/5 against one of the best bowling sides in the world! And this was after Ruturaj Gaikwad got out cheaply. The partnership between Shubman Gill and Shreyas Iyer simply destroyed the Australians. By the time Iyer got out, Australia was far ahead. And I was disappointed with the performance from Australian bowlers. This team once had bowlers like McGrath and Lee, who would have terrorized Indian batsmen in any type of wicket. And now they have bowlers who get deflated on flat tracks.

I am actually disappointed with the performance of both the Australian bowlers and batsmen. Because they have done bad bowling as well as bad batting, as on my own thoughts.
If you look at the scoreboard you will understand that, but I think the Australian batsmen getting out early is the main reason why they lost this match.
And the Indian bowlers have been successful here, the batsmen have set a big target in advance and put them under pressure. Then every bowler of India was able to stop them quickly by taking wickets. Otherwise, if the Australian batsmen could perform well, then maybe they would not have to face such a loss. But here, through these victories, the Indian team is telling that they are going to be one of the best favorite teams in this year's ODI format.
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[JunaidAzizi]

During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

Come on! I have no idea why you guys bother with these lame excuses to defend your favourite teams. Fact is that Pakistan lost against India and Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup and they are definitely the underdogs going into the World Cup.

They don't have great spinners and most of their batsmen keep performing inconsistently. Their teammates fighting over various matters makes things worse for them. Think!

No, I am not supporting any team I just tell the facts. It its right Pakistan lost the match against them but just look at the other two matches that can't perform due to rain . The Indians played but the bowlers of Pakistan gave them a very tough time in both matches Pakistan won those matches but due to rain it was postponed. In the case of spinners, I think they may lack spinners but they have good fast bowlers who fulfill the space of spinners and also one spinner is good in a team.
And I am not aware of any kind of violence among them if you have any knowledge about their fighting then please proceed.

[Fuso.hp]

During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

Come on! I have no idea why you guys bother with these lame excuses to defend your favourite teams. Fact is that Pakistan lost against India and Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup and they are definitely the underdogs going into the World Cup.

They don't have great spinners and most of their batsmen keep performing inconsistently. Their teammates fighting over various matters makes things worse for them. Think!

All things considered, the Pakistan Cricket Board is not in a very good place at the moment. First of all, Pakistan is not in a good mood at the moment due to extremely poor performance in the Asia Cup as well as discussions with their team mates and the latest visa complications for Pakistani cricketers. With only 10 days left for the start of the World Cup tournament, if Pakistan's condition is like this, then how can Pakistan perform well in a big tournament like the World Cup? Pakistan has enough experienced spinners but not enough spinners to compete with other teams.  

Pakistan's dressing room is heated while other teams are busy with batsman spin bowling and fast bowling. I think Pakistani cricketers must forget all these things and focus on cricket only then they can achieve something good in this tournament.

[Sithara007]

Come on! I have no idea why you guys bother with these lame excuses to defend your favourite teams. Fact is that Pakistan lost against India and Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup and they are definitely the underdogs going into the World Cup.

They don't have great spinners and most of their batsmen keep performing inconsistently. Their teammates fighting over various matters makes things worse for them. Think!

Looks like Pakistan is now really weak. They suffered some very heavy defeats, and many of their regular players are either injured, or out of form. And obviously, the lack of a quality spinner is going to be their biggest headache. Without a good spinner, how do you expect them to win on Indian pitches? Even England has come up with Rehan Ahmed (two days back, he picked up 54/4 against Ireland), while Pakistan is still struggling to find a quality spin bowler. Compared to Pakistan, Bangladesh is having good spinners in their squad.

[cozytrade]

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

Without Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma, it was certainly a remarkable performance for the Indian team to make such a big score; Key players of both these teams were not involved in the match, but India's performance so well is a moment of concern for all the teams. The Australian players did not have the enthusiasm that the Australian players are known for. The Indian team easily controlled them.

The way the Australian team is playing matches against India is very disappointing, and Australia will have to revise it. Indian team will definitely be favorites to win the World Cup but nothing can be said too early in cricket as there are strong cricket teams apart from Australia who can be expected to do well. For example, there are teams like South Africa, England and New Zealand. That has the potential to cause problems for any good team

I think this shows how well the next gen of India has improved. Once the older gen eventually retires, I think India is not going to have any problems throughout the transition period. And of course India did very well in the last match against Australia. I didn't expect that India is going to win the match so easily. But the performance that India actually put on was incredible and I don't think that anyone will deny India deserving to win the match.

But we can also say that Australia was actually unlucky. The rain interrupted the match at the most inconvenient time for Australia. The track was not best suited for batting after the rain. Son that is one reason for Australia not doing well at all in the match.

The track was not well suited for batting after the rain. Yes, I accept your point, but I will never accept that Australia lost the match against India due to rain. Australia would never have won the match against India had it not rained in yesterday's match. Because the Indian cricket team gave Australia a target of 400 runs and this 400 run target was never possible for the Australian cricket team to fulfill. Yes you can say that if the Australia cricket team could have played the whole match then maybe they could have reduced the target gap given by the India cricket team. Indian cricket team is very strong not only in batting but also in bowling. The proof of how strong the Indian cricket team is in bowling has also been shown in the final match of the Asia Cup

[Sithara007]

The track was not well suited for batting after the rain. Yes, I accept your point, but I will never accept that Australia lost the match against India due to rain. Australia would never have won the match against India had it not rained in yesterday's match. Because the Indian cricket team gave Australia a target of 400 runs and this 400 run target was never possible for the Australian cricket team to fulfill. Yes you can say that if the Australia cricket team could have played the whole match then maybe they could have reduced the target gap given by the India cricket team. Indian cricket team is very strong not only in batting but also in bowling. The proof of how strong the Indian cricket team is in bowling has also been shown in the final match of the Asia Cup

Advantage with India is that for the first time in their cricket history, they have a bunch of world class pacers representing them. Previously also India had pacers such as Kapil Dev, Javagal Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Irfan Pathan. But these bowlers hardly got any support from other members in the team. This time it is different. Pacers like Bumrah, Siraj, Shami and Shardul are working together as a team. The good thing is that even if one, or even two of the pacers get injured, there is enough bench strength to replace them without impacting the team balance. 

[Compromise me]

I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.

No doubt ,India is most strongest team whole the World but luck is very important to Win World Cup Final.India played excellent.Shubman Gill and Iyer made centuries for their teams.Glen Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh  are top performer of Australia .When they will be fit,this team will give tough to India in World Cup.India showed thay without big players like Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli ,India can win match easily against Australia.

[WatChe]

No doubt ,India is most strongest team whole the World but luck is very important to Win World Cup Final.India played excellent.Shubman Gill and Iyer made centuries for their teams.Glen Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh  are top performer of Australia .When they will be fit,this team will give tough to India in World Cup.India showed thay without big players like Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli ,India can win match easily against Australia.

World cup is a total different story. Usually teams that are not favorite mostly win the world cup. India, Australia and England are favorite for this world cup, they have strong ODI squad and are performing well in ODI games. With rise in T20 cricket, not many teams are focusing on test and ODI games. West Indies, Newzealand, South Africa and Pakistan don't have strong ODI teams this time.

[GbitG]

World cup is a total different story. Usually teams that are not favorite mostly win the world cup. India, Australia and England are favorite for this world cup, they have strong ODI squad and are performing well in ODI games.  West Indies, Newzealand, South Africa and Pakistan don't have strong ODI teams this time.

Just like you had mentioned above that world cup is totally a different story and most of those team who got underestimate, sideline or somehow underdog mostly perform well and won such a big tournament unexpectedly, so it will be not a wrong that currently, paksitan, NewZeland, South Africa were underdogs and I am quite sure that if they rise at a correct them at mid of tournament then they will be a huge challenge for any big names, just like we have history of paksitan who done same thing's in 1992, when everyone sideline them and said you are finished, out of tournament then they comback and win the worldcup also same situation happen in 2017 Champions trophy when every one degrade them and then they rise and won the final so we expect same thing's from paksitan again and hope we will get same drama and excitement

[JSRAW]

No doubt ,India is most strongest team whole the World but luck is very important to Win World Cup Final.India played excellent.Shubman Gill and Iyer made centuries for their teams.Glen Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh  are top performer of Australia .When they will be fit,this team will give tough to India in World Cup.India showed thay without big players like Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli ,India can win match easily against Australia.

World cup is a total different story. Usually teams that are not favorite mostly win the world cup. India, Australia and England are favorite for this world cup, they have strong ODI squad and are performing well in ODI games. With rise in T20 cricket, not many teams are focusing on test and ODI games. West Indies, Newzealand, South Africa and Pakistan don't have strong ODI teams this time.

Kiwis might surprise as they are dark horses and always punch above their weight.

Proteas batting order is looking threatening to me this time and if their bowling clicks at the right time then they could wonder as well, although one of their primer bowler is ruled out due to injury.

You never know what Pakistan can do, one day they will look Prime Pakistani team and they also have a strange capability of becoming a club level cricket team so highly unpredictable.