How I lost 200,000 EURO on Bitcasino.io

[chateaux]

I would not say this is a clear indication of a scam.

To understand why the account balance updated before the "spins took place" you need to understand how games are built and work.

There are two sides to every game:

1. The server side, this is where the game takes place using its RNG mechanism.
2. The client-side, the pretty picture running in the user's browser. This will "play" the outcome of the game as determined by the server mechanics.

So for a normal game, you will click a button, this action calls the server, the server runs the game, and returns the result to the UI. The UI then plays the outcome of the game (as a slot machine, crash game, scratch card... whatever).

By the time the game plays the UI to the user, the outcome has been determined. In some games, you will notice that your account balance goes up when the game loads.

In this case, I would assume that the game and its bonus spins are determined on the first call.

1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data

Once the data is returned to the UI, the user plays the game not knowing that the result has already been determined.

There are other ways to write games like this and that would be to give the user "free spin credits". The code may look something like this:

1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin(), creditBonusCredits()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data

At this point, the user now has "bonus credits" which can be used to run a separate game...

In most cases an all in one game is preferred since managing credits etc. becomes a chore.

[game-protect]

Bitcasino has a huge history of criminal offenses committed and therefore you have to expect everything!

[ralle14]

Can someone please explain this to me:

https://imgur.com/a/T5rvQFn

I got free spins on Win Escalator, my balance was 143,906.71 which you can see in the left corner. As soon as I won the free spins my balance in the top right corner updated to 211,906.71

During the free spins I won exactly 68,000.00 which is 143,906.71 + 68,000.00 = 211,906.71

If the games use a RNG and each spin is unique, how was the game able to predict before even starting the free spins that I would win exactly 68000 credits in those 8 free spins?

This happened on another game where I won 12 free spins.

Slots from software providers usually have a skip button and as what chateaux explained while you're on the free spin animation the outcome of all the free spins is  known already.

Maybe it only does it with that provider. On the screenshots they seem to be on the same provider because of the button design.  With other slot providers i've tried I usually receive my updated balance after.

[Kevinn22]

Bitcasino has a huge history of criminal offenses committed and therefore you have to expect everything!

They don't actually...
They just have 1 demented soul running around on BCT falsely claiming this with nothing to back him up.
Also, when someone disagrees with this demented soul, he claims they are 'mentally ill' (when, in fact, he is extremely mentally ill)

[cbnrules]

roulette is lower variance than a slot game.

[proTECH77]

That was a great loss and I can see some sort of greediness on the aide of the player here, why aiming to get the biggest odd and found yourself losing and still want to quit for.better? Lesson to learn, never aim at a bigger odd atbyour first play, always set limit of what you intend to use or Loose, never put winning at the front of your games, take gambling as a fun and entertainment. Sorry for the lost.

[game-protect]

Bitcasino has a huge history of criminal offenses committed and therefore you have to expect everything!

They don't actually...

Game Protect received proof of over 10 bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io scams!

[justdimin]

Game-protect lives on these kinds of topics, he loves it when someone loses money, think about it who profits from getting you to lose and who profits from scamming you?

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers and whatever they have made from you will be the last money they made, so they will basically lose their job and even though they have a lot of money that is just tip of the iceberg for a real good casino, without scamming anyone you can keep printing money forever so they literally have no interest in scamming you because they want to be known as a good place in order to keep making ton of money in legit ways.

However, game-protect wants it to be scam, he wants you to lose all your money, if all casinos are legit and good then we need no game-protect, hence he wishes you to be scammed, he wants you to be scammed, he is happy when you are scammed, do your own calculations based on that.

[game-protect]

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers and whatever they have made from you will be the last money they made, so they will basically lose their job and even though they have a lot of money that is just tip of the iceberg for a real good casino, without scamming anyone you can keep printing money forever so they literally have no interest in scamming you because they want to be known as a good place in order to keep making ton of money in legit ways.

Great extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit story!

I will give you 2 examples of known scams with a huge number of customers:

1) 1xbet.com and 1xbit.com

2) bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io

[Kevinn22]

Bitcasino has a huge history of criminal offenses committed and therefore you have to expect everything!

They don't actually...

Game Protect received proof of over 10 bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io scams!

which 10?
you mean the 10 cases of people either trying to double spend bitcoin or making multiple accounts in order to abuse the 1st deposit bonus?
and where is this "proof"?
is the proof just some random guy, who created an account here, and says he lost his deposit? shortly thereafter giving you a positive review and talking extremely mentally ill the whole time?

[STT]

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers

Always go with the established betting houses for this reason, if you are a new gambler especially you want a bet provider who has something to lose by not keeping you as a customer.  A website that has existed only weeks and might be gone just as fast may not care about a fair game as any complaints can be ignored before the community recognises the games they run are biased.    A very long term site will just not survive in the end because they will lose more customers then the money gained.

[FanEagle]

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers

Always go with the established betting houses for this reason, if you are a new gambler especially you want a bet provider who has something to lose by not keeping you as a customer.  A website that has existed only weeks and might be gone just as fast may not care about a fair game as any complaints can be ignored before the community recognises the games they run are biased.    A very long term site will just not survive in the end because they will lose more customers then the money gained.

Yeah definitely, when you gamble in places like stake, primedice and so forth you are not risking much, they are telling you the house edge already and you will definitely lose all of your money if you are not careful however at least that is already mentioned and informed by the casino to you.

Aside from that these places are making millions of dollars every single year, they have absolutely no reason to scam you, what could they gain from scamming someone, even if it is like 500 bitcoins they still do not need to scam a person because they can make that much money anyway. Hence always pick casinos that wouldn't mind people winning a ton of money because in the end they will profit, if you pick that type of super rich and wealthy casino then you would be fine (except hackers of course).

[Ucy]

OMG, I'm finding it difficult to believe that anyone could just throw that sum of money into gambling, just like that and keep on putting more even when they are losing  . Well, maybe because I don't have that much.

But, even if I had that much there are other thing that I can do with that amount of money than letting it all go in gambling. You should know that in every casino the house always have more chances of winning than the players, so the luck only comes to a few people

And the next spammer xD
You should be banned from signature campaign.

Why do you think he is a spammer?  He actually made a valid point.

Anyway, I wonder what other members think of op claim. Do you guys think the amount he  mentioned here is true or is exaggerated?

[Astargath]

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers and whatever they have made from you will be the last money they made, so they will basically lose their job and even though they have a lot of money that is just tip of the iceberg for a real good casino, without scamming anyone you can keep printing money forever so they literally have no interest in scamming you because they want to be known as a good place in order to keep making ton of money in legit ways.

Great extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit story!

I will give you 2 examples of known scams with a huge number of customers:

1) 1xbet.com and 1xbit.com

2) bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io

The only known scam here is you lol. You don't have proof that this casino is a scam, you only have some shitty proof about their gambling license, nothing about them cheating with the rolls.

[BTCevo]

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers

Always go with the established betting houses for this reason, if you are a new gambler especially you want a bet provider who has something to lose by not keeping you as a customer.  A website that has existed only weeks and might be gone just as fast may not care about a fair game as any complaints can be ignored before the community recognises the games they run are biased.    A very long term site will just not survive in the end because they will lose more customers then the money gained.

Yeah definitely, when you gamble in places like stake, primedice and so forth you are not risking much, they are telling you the house edge already and you will definitely lose all of your money if you are not careful however at least that is already mentioned and informed by the casino to you.

Aside from that these places are making millions of dollars every single year, they have absolutely no reason to scam you, what could they gain from scamming someone, even if it is like 500 bitcoins they still do not need to scam a person because they can make that much money anyway. Hence always pick casinos that wouldn't mind people winning a ton of money because in the end they will profit, if you pick that type of super rich and wealthy casino then you would be fine (except hackers of course).

Actually by gambling you are already risking your money, even if you played on the big sites like the one you mentioned. But the chance to lose it by yourselves or by get scamming will have a different story. The only thing you played on some big sites is they will never scam away your money because this is profitable business, they do not want to lose people trust just because of little issues. But the chance of losing money on gambling site will stay the same

[btmarketmod]

Yeah I'm pretty sure this is legit: https://youtu.be/3NAr4T-G8ck

It took the entire balance after this btw.

[Stakefast]

Yeah I'm pretty sure this is legit: https://youtu.be/3NAr4T-G8ck

It took the entire balance after this btw.

So just keep playing there then... 

[game-protect]

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers and whatever they have made from you will be the last money they made, so they will basically lose their job and even though they have a lot of money that is just tip of the iceberg for a real good casino, without scamming anyone you can keep printing money forever so they literally have no interest in scamming you because they want to be known as a good place in order to keep making ton of money in legit ways.

Great extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit story!

I will give you 2 examples of known scams with a huge number of customers:

1) 1xbet.com and 1xbit.com

2) bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io

The only known scam here is you lol.

Why do not you put the proof on the table and get 5 BTC instead of spamming your signature for cents?

Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much?

You don't have proof that this casino is a scam, you only have some shitty proof about their gambling license, nothing about them cheating with the rolls.

Game Protect has a lot of proof that the bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io and vegascasino.io group scammed customers!

[lotfiuser]

Can someone please explain this to me:

https://imgur.com/a/T5rvQFn

I got free spins on Win Escalator, my balance was 143,906.71 which you can see in the left corner. As soon as I won the free spins my balance in the top right corner updated to 211,906.71

During the free spins I won exactly 68,000.00 which is 143,906.71 + 68,000.00 = 211,906.71

If the games use a RNG and each spin is unique, how was the game able to predict before even starting the free spins that I would win exactly 68000 credits in those 8 free spins?

This happened on another game where I won 12 free spins.

its a normal thing when you play online games I tried it with different gambling websites and its safe

If a casino was a scammer and they scammed you then they will be known as a scamming website and they will not get any more customers and whatever they have made from you will be the last money they made, so they will basically lose their job and even though they have a lot of money that is just tip of the iceberg for a real good casino, without scamming anyone you can keep printing money forever so they literally have no interest in scamming you because they want to be known as a good place in order to keep making ton of money in legit ways.

Great extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit story!

I will give you 2 examples of known scams with a huge number of customers:

1) 1xbet.com and 1xbit.com

2) bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io

1XBET IS A SCAM? are you sure about it cuz I use it and I bring some friends  to this website and we didn't withdraw yet and what you suggest to bet on football with cryptocurrency

[EdenHazard]

Can someone please explain this to me:

https://imgur.com/a/T5rvQFn

I got free spins on Win Escalator, my balance was 143,906.71 which you can see in the left corner. As soon as I won the free spins my balance in the top right corner updated to 211,906.71

During the free spins I won exactly 68,000.00 which is 143,906.71 + 68,000.00 = 211,906.71

If the games use a RNG and each spin is unique, how was the game able to predict before even starting the free spins that I would win exactly 68000 credits in those 8 free spins?

This happened on another game where I won 12 free spins.

Slots from software providers usually have a skip button and as what chateaux explained while you're on the free spin animation the outcome of all the free spins is  known already.

Maybe it only does it with that provider. On the screenshots they seem to be on the same provider because of the button design.  With other slot providers i've tried I usually receive my updated balance after.

That's correct happened to me a lot of times , i think everyone has experienced the same thing too. Sometimes it's smell a rat due how disappointed you are having a bad day , a bad luck that time , a wise gesture needed.

However when it comes to bitcasino.io i think it's well known since 2016 that they have too much problem unsolved like :

Withdrawal on hold for months ..
Ignoring customer complaints ..
Rejecting withdrawal request for unclear reason ..

Also a shady gaming platform ..
Most importantly, their t&c changing as they wish. Stay away.