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Gambling isn't a risk free way to make money. If it was possible, we wouldn't call it "gambling", we would call it "job" or "business" instead. Actually there is a way to make money taking risks, be very good in finding positive results. Not every game is purely random, alot are but its possible to enter into a site with free bets and come out a good gain if you find very long odds on reasonable risk bets. Its easy to state these things but pretty much a life times work to find the high risk scenarios that would pay off. Obviously random luck is possible, sometimes people stumble across games which benefit them disproportionally or they have a natural skill for. Some people are gods at poker somehow or learn very well and very quickly; you only really have to be better then the other people at the table and theres a million tables out there to take part in. Its not wrong to try, only a bad loss if you cannot recognise the loss as one likely to be repeated. I said this elsewhere but there are faucet sites or many gamble sites that will give something like a faucet for a registered member. At least one faucet site lets you bet on real world events, sporting, politics and all kinds of things. A recent bet was the results on best 2019 MTV music video, the surprise result was the Jonas brothers with odds of 26 to 1 which is amazing because surely they are a top name. I think what happens sometimes is people are purposely biased or just dont have a clue and guess by their own point of view. The money returned on good judgement then is very good and I would suggest finding similar situations is the path to make some profits regularly. Its not always exciting and requires patience but its very possible to gain from participation, people are often making mistakes in sports betting I find as its very hype or ego driven type gambling.
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Why not gambling with own money if you tactic is so good instead of looking for someone who takes the risk?? That is what I thought too. At least, we don't have a big risk by using other people money because that will be a problem if somehow, we are losing in the games. He might get scam if he still wants to try, but if that is for curiosity, then he can do that but don't regret if you lose the money because gambling will suck your money at all. It still better at playing gambling with our own money because we can have a responsibility with the money, we need to manage the money, so we don't have to get a big loss in the gambling games.
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If you want reliable income go get a job, buy a house and rent it, or put your money in a bank and collect interest.
Gambling isn't a risk free way to make money. If it was possible, we wouldn't call it "gambling", we would call it "job" or "business" instead.
Alternatively, you can be the house or build your own casino. You'll have all the advantages of limiting max bet amount, house edge etc. Nobody can win against math. Otherwise we wouldn't have bitcoin.
Hey, I already have a job, a house and investments in another areas, but this is just a thread to share ideias and talk about gambling, I like this subject and this is a good way to know another's people methods As I can see, you are not from those looking for a way to make their living from gambling. Good for you! Seeing gambling as pure entertainment is the best approach to it, imo. Regarding the strategy, you ask in the OP, I suggest you to try the following. Always try to participate in promo games which are +EV (in some cases they are not, so you should check that every time), and even if you will not succeed in some of them, statistically you should be in profit in the long run. Those who make any living with gambling cannot continue it for a longer term. Even if they succeed in the short term, it will be very hard for them to keep on winning. Dice and other gambling games are too much risky and no one can win them constantly. However sports betting is by far the safest and if you have good knowledge of it, you can have better chances of wining. Yes, I know and agree with you guys sports bets are safer because it's not only lucky, if you really know about the sport you're betting you'll increase the profits I already did some money on sports bets, but consumes a lot of time if you are really into and wanting to gain money, you have to know a lot of details about players, places, the championship in general, but it's a great area to gain money Well it does not take much time to understand and bet on the right team. Everyone has some games and sports which they love and watch, You only bet on those sports as you already aware of the teams of that sports and you are in better position to place a bet. Placing a bet on a sports which you do not watch and getting knowledge of it only to bet on it, is not recommended.
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~ However sports betting is by far the safest and if you have good knowledge of it, you can have better chances of wining.
In order to have better chances of winning compared to that of other bettors, you should know something they don't. It's been always a question to me, how can you know more than others, unless you are a team doctor, a coach or a relative of a player? Since all the info is equally available on the Internet to everybody, how can you get better chances of winning, by what kind of analysis?
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Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after
It would be nice if you win but if unfortunately you lost then what? Obviously you will wonder to recover it even next day. But who know if you loss again ? Depend on luck also on gambling. It will better if you think about small profits instead of huge. But very rare it will happen. Its true there is no strategy for gambling but much greed one of reason for loss funds.
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~ However sports betting is by far the safest and if you have good knowledge of it, you can have better chances of wining.
In order to have better chances of winning compared to that of other bettors, you should know something they don't. It's been always a question to me, how can you know more than others, unless you are a team doctor, a coach or a relative of a player? Since all the info is equally available on the Internet to everybody, how can you get better chances of winning, by what kind of analysis? Sometimes, if you really know the sport you are beting, you'll find some good opportunities to bet Just an example, the best player of your team is injured, this is the player who scores most of goals, maybe you can find a good alternative to bet that the match will not have more than 3 goals... It's just a generic example, but you can understand the logic behind
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~ However sports betting is by far the safest and if you have good knowledge of it, you can have better chances of wining.
In order to have better chances of winning compared to that of other bettors, you should know something they don't. It's been always a question to me, how can you know more than others, unless you are a team doctor, a coach or a relative of a player? Since all the info is equally available on the Internet to everybody, how can you get better chances of winning, by what kind of analysis? Sometimes, if you really know the sport you are beting, you'll find some good opportunities to bet Just an example, the best player of your team is injured, this is the player who scores most of goals, maybe you can find a good alternative to bet that the match will not have more than 3 goals... It's just a generic example, but you can understand the logic behind But my point was that anyone could be aware of that injury. People can google, right? Thus you can't have better chances of winning compared to other bettors. If the best goal scorer of a team injured, the odds for the rival team will not remain the same as before. And instead of having, say, 3x multiplier in the case of winning you can have 1.5x or 1.2x even. Unless other bettors don't know how to google, I can't see how can you have advantage over them with that information.
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Theres always the chance of a low speed reaction to news, or sometimes an incorrect reaction. With really big games, its unlikely that the odds will lag news that much. I bet or used to bet alot of really small sports and esports games and sometimes people really didnt know the full picture. Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after This method is a fallacy, its not giving an advantage or a strategy that will result in long term gains. I wish it were so but its kind of an urban myth, a misconception. I advise people to stay away from it because its misleading. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy#Retrospective_gambler's_fallacy Theres probably a better article out there but people make common mistakes in presuming some stuff, some of that is why gambling operations are profitable to run. Best idea is to run through whatever theory with throw away amounts ie. doesnt matter, at some point you just go get a burger instead so you are not 'stuck in the orbit' of the idea of winning. I'd argue the best strategy is to never put on large amounts only the profits from previous bets. Money management then being the best strategy of all.
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This is just a random example I made right now, but I want to see if there's someone who try to use a strategy to gain very small profits daily instead of trying with big bets
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity
Have you heard of you win some, you lose some ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . As far we talk about gambling, that is how it rolls. The owners if those businesses will run down if they don't get something from people. In fact, they get more and that is why you see more businesses opening up in that direction. But come to talk of steady wins, even a salary earner, sometimes loses his or her money one way or the other, either by theft, misplacement, wrong calculation. Anything can happen to money
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In order to have better chances of winning compared to that of other bettors, you should know something they don't. It's been always a question to me, how can you know more than others, unless you are a team doctor, a coach or a relative of a player? Since all the info is equally available on the Internet to everybody, how can you get better chances of winning, by what kind of analysis? Maybe, because you can be less biased and thus more rational in your attitudes? I'm not involved in this kind of thing (I mean sports betting) but I think I can draw a valid analogy with trading (well, it may be somewhat loose but still better than nothing). In trading, you can fare better than the rest of the pack not because you know something what others don't know but simply because you make fewer mistakes by being less emotional and taking a more balanced approach to what you are doing. I suppose it works with sports betting as well (as with anything else in life, for that matter)
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Have you heard of you win some, you lose some ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . As far we talk about gambling, that is how it rolls. The owners if those businesses will run down if they don't get something from people. In fact, they get more and that is why you see more businesses opening up in that direction. Few addicted gamblers actually understand this. They think that players make huge amounts everyday seeing the advertisements which casinos put up. They dont use their logic that in the end the casino is the winner if you dont cash out your money when you are winning. Most EV- games that is. But come to talk of steady wins, even a salary earner, sometimes loses his or her money one way or the other, either by theft, misplacement, wrong calculation. Anything can happen to money We should not compare gambling with daily wage earning. A daily wagered would rather be meticulous in collecting his money and keeping it safe while gamblers will carelessly gamble it away. That is why they are gamblers. However some can be a mix of the two - who play at times for fun but is diligent about their expenditure.
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In order to have better chances of winning compared to that of other bettors, you should know something they don't. It's been always a question to me, how can you know more than others, unless you are a team doctor, a coach or a relative of a player? Since all the info is equally available on the Internet to everybody, how can you get better chances of winning, by what kind of analysis? Maybe, because you can be less biased and thus more rational in your attitudes? I'm not involved in this kind of thing (I mean sports betting) but I think I can draw a valid analogy with trading (well, it may be somewhat loose but still better than nothing). In trading, you can fare better than the rest of the pack not because you know something what others don't know but simply because you make fewer mistakes by being less emotional and taking a more balanced approach to what you are doing. I suppose it works with sports betting as well (as with anything else in life, for that matter) Maybe this approach can work in trading, but in gambling if you think that your past wins were due to your being less emotional and more balanced than others, it's an illusion, and a very dangerous one, if you ask me, because believing in it you can lose a lot of money eventually. Let me explain with an example. In trading, if you buy 20 coins about which you read that they can rise 10,000% within the next 24 hours, each of them, your failure is guaranteed, because only scam projects promise that. So, being less emotional and more balanced than others, you don't do that, and you are absolutely right. In gambling, on the other hand, you can make 20 bets with 110x multiplier, win just 1 of them, and be in profit, and every gambler knows that it's not something unusual. I mean, when in trading you can profit from buying a coin that "should rise" 10,000% within the next 24 hours, once in a million years, in gambling such things happen many times every day. Betting with less than 1% win chance is not a stupid thing to do, and to prove my point I won such a bet just several minutes ago. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKAadais.png&t=665&c=Adb0WX-9tCKRqw) But I won that bet not because I know something others don't and not because I'm less emotional than others or anything, but simply because of luck. My point is that some patterns that work in trading don't work in gambling, and vice versa.
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September 08, 2019, 12:54:05 PM |
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i have analyzes that increase your chance of winning. i can guide high rollers with shared profit. pm for details.
Why not gambling with own money if you tactic is so good instead of looking for someone who takes the risk?? Maybe he does not have the money to invest and in this shared way he want to earn some money. But I will advise to stay away from it. There are so many cheaters and scammers out there that you will hardly find any honest person who can do a fair business and deal.
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September 09, 2019, 04:06:46 AM |
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i have analyzes that increase your chance of winning. i can guide high rollers with shared profit. pm for details.
Why not gambling with own money if you tactic is so good instead of looking for someone who takes the risk?? Maybe he does not have the money to invest and in this shared way he want to earn some money. But I will advise to stay away from it. There are so many cheaters and scammers out there that you will hardly find any honest person who can do a fair business and deal. If he has a way to win and get money with a higher chance. He will not tell anyone for this strategy, because it is the same that he spills the beans. In gambling, everything has to do with money. If you are not careful then you will lose money.
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shoreno
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September 09, 2019, 04:14:00 AM |
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i have analyzes that increase your chance of winning. i can guide high rollers with shared profit. pm for details.
Why not gambling with own money if you tactic is so good instead of looking for someone who takes the risk?? Maybe he does not have the money to invest and in this shared way he want to earn some money. But I will advise to stay away from it. There are so many cheaters and scammers out there that you will hardly find any honest person who can do a fair business and deal. If he has a way to win and get money with a higher chance. He will not tell anyone for this strategy, because it is the same that he spills the beans. In gambling, everything has to do with money. If you are not careful then you will lose money. playing with higher multipliers are too risky and the ocurence of winning is pretty slim so i dont think that there are working strategy for it . its just pure luck if ever you win . i did tried higher multipliers before but i can one once in ever 10 to 15 lossing streaks , so id say that its not really worth it to risk your balance . low profits with the default settings is still better imo because you can win daily on them .
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September 09, 2019, 04:27:26 AM |
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Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after
This is just a random example I made right now, but I want to see if there's someone who try to use a strategy to gain very small profits daily instead of trying with big bets
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity
as a trader, he must have good and correct trading techniques in formulating strategies even though he gets very small profits, because at this time the market is unstable and getting huge profits is very difficult, so he must be smart in determining strategies to get profits.
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michellee
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September 09, 2019, 05:10:33 AM |
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Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after
This is just a random example I made right now, but I want to see if there's someone who try to use a strategy to gain very small profits daily instead of trying with big bets
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity
as a trader, he must have good and correct trading techniques in formulating strategies even though he gets very small profits, because at this time the market is unstable and getting huge profits is very difficult, so he must be smart in determining strategies to get profits. I am sure if we use $100 in trading, we can make a profit many times but we are in the gambling which we don't know how much we can win from the games. And to be honest, with $100, that will be big money to use to play gambling, and for me, it is better to use small money than $100 in one-time of gambling. You don't need to risk $100 in the gambling because you know that if you use that money in trading, you will have a chance to make the profit. So you can choose for yourself.
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September 13, 2019, 07:12:06 AM |
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Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after
This is just a random example I made right now, but I want to see if there's someone who try to use a strategy to gain very small profits daily instead of trying with big bets
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity
I can't believe that there are still gamblers think martingale really. In my opinion, perhaps the casino owners invented it because your wager increases unless you finally win which is not favorable because I did it and just on the 10th time, I have lose it all. If you want a dollar everyday and safe then why don' t you just work for for captcha instead. It's sure profit and can be huge if you are very hardworking.
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September 13, 2019, 03:58:51 PM |
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Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after
This is just a random example I made right now, but I want to see if there's someone who try to use a strategy to gain very small profits daily instead of trying with big bets
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity
as a trader, he must have good and correct trading techniques in formulating strategies even though he gets very small profits, because at this time the market is unstable and getting huge profits is very difficult, so he must be smart in determining strategies to get profits. I am sure if we use $100 in trading, we can make a profit many times but we are in the gambling which we don't know how much we can win from the games. And to be honest, with $100, that will be big money to use to play gambling, and for me, it is better to use small money than $100 in one-time of gambling. You don't need to risk $100 in the gambling because you know that if you use that money in trading, you will have a chance to make the profit. So you can choose for yourself. Using small money in gambling is a good Idea because once you use big capital possible to lose it all. But maybe their method is really works to him and to others and I believe we have different method in gambling but better not too confident of what method we have because sometimes rhat also can cause for us to lose insteaf of win. Small profit is enough to decrease the risk.
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September 14, 2019, 11:27:35 AM |
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Some example, you deposit 100 USD, you use martingale method to gain at least 1 dollar (1%) and you stop, and do the same the day after
This is just a random example I made right now, but I want to see if there's someone who try to use a strategy to gain very small profits daily instead of trying with big bets
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity
I can't believe that there are still gamblers think martingale really. In my opinion, perhaps the casino owners invented it because your wager increases unless you finally win which is not favorable because I did it and just on the 10th time, I have lose it all. If you want a dollar everyday and safe then why don' t you just work for for captcha instead. It's sure profit and can be huge if you are very hardworking. From what I know solving captcha is a hard work which can bring you $2-$3 per day, but never more than that. And you should be working 7-10 hours during that day doing one the most boring jobs ever. In the OP's example, on the other hand, you can earn $1 within seconds. Why martingale is attractive is because it works most of the time. Here's what you typically get when martingaling (for the experiment, imagine that 1 DOGE is $100): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FomW4sAT.png&t=665&c=ZkJQSiavVlgf4A) As you can see it seems easy to win one dollar, and then another one, and then another one. You have to lose 6 bets in a row to be unable to double your next bet amount, and normally it's not happening. The odds of losing 6 bets in a row at 49.5% win chance - once every 60 bets or so, and thus one might think that if you don't make more than 10 bets in one day, you'll never hit that killing losing streak. But, in fact, this is not the case, because it doesn't matter whether you make 60 bets within 30 seconds or withing 30 days, you still have a good chance of losing 6 times in a row within those 60 bets.
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