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August 07, 2019, 06:47:36 AM
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Hi there!

I was using the last days to read up on the lightning network and wanted to try it out with friend. We both downloaded the Eclaire mobile wallet and funded the addresses with 0.0011BTC each (because 0.001BTC seems to be the minimum required to open a channel??).

Next, we both opened a channel by connecting to the ACINQ node.

In the channel details it shows the full amount in the "can send" section. but the "can receive" section is 0BTC.



Can anybody help me understand why this is the case? And how can we set it up in order to be able to send funds between us?



Thanks in advance!

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August 07, 2019, 07:09:51 AM
Last edit: August 07, 2019, 07:32:40 AM by BitCryptex
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Can anybody help me understand why this is the case? And how can we set it up in order to be able to send funds between us?

If you fund a channel then coins are on your side of the channel. You won't be able to receive money over the Lightning Network unless you spend some coins. You have to free some space in the channel (some coins have to be on the other side). More detailed and easy to understand explanation can be found here. There are also services which open a channel to you for a small fee. In such a case, you would be able to receive payments.

Have you seen my LN FAQ and the basics of the Lightning Network? I might not reply you for the next few hours.

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August 07, 2019, 07:34:01 AM
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I can help you out with this, I'll give you several options:

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I've been running LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans for 2 months now, and I can also do it the other way around: send me 0.0001BTC (10,000 sat), and I'll send it back to you when you want it. I'd give you 100 sat interest too, but you'll need more receiving capacity to be able to use it.

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Install Bluewallet. This is a custodial Lightning wallet, which means you have to trust them with your funds (so use small amounts only), but you can instantly receive LN funds. Send some there, so you get some Receiving capacity in Eclair. Note that you have to send more than the minimum channel reserve to be able to receive something back (10,000 sat will be more than enough to test).

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Sell some of your Lightning funds for either on-chain Bitcoin or an altcoin. I've used coinplaza.it a few times for this, as it has the lowest fees I could find.

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August 07, 2019, 08:06:47 AM
Last edit: August 08, 2019, 06:46:57 AM by Chironexxx
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Have you seen my LN FAQ and the basics of the Lightning Network? I might not reply you for the next few hours.

Thanks for your answer! I have read the threads but apparently not studied them well enough. I will have another close look.

I can help you out with this, I'll give you several options:


@LoyceV Thank you so much for your answer and the merit! I should finally be able to be promoted to member status!

I remembered that I have seen a topic where somebody was offering test transactions but I could not find it anymore (and I usually don't look into the lending section  Cool). I will look into all the options and hopefully get used to the LN a little bit more because I think its a great step towards mass adoption!

Thanks Guys!


[EDIT: one day later]

I thought I briefly share my experience from the testing for others be also encouraged to test it out! As LoyceV suggested, I went to coin-plaza to get me some Dogecoin in order the free up inbound capacity in my channel. Just a few clicks later I was proud owner of 1000 doge and had done my first lightning transaction.
After this, I could create a payment request and send it to my friend. From then on, sending even a few sats back an forth was easy, lighting fast ( Cool) and basically free (1-3 sats fee per transaction).

In the next days, I will also try out the Blue wallet. So far everything I have done was with the Eclair wallet.

To me, it looks like a great system and I really hope that this will facilitate bitcoin adoption.


Thanks again, for the help. really appreciate it!



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