Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II

[Yamifoud]

Ruiz and Anthony Joshua can fight all they want... but they can not get even near Tyson Fury.
He is better fighter in and out of ring tan both of them.
Joshua is still avoiding him, and that is hilarious   

It probably a deep breath for them if they want to fight Tyson, but they don't cause they don't have a match for him. Tyson Fury has a name already on his boxing career, but these two guys Ruiz and Joshua tried to build their reputation and to prove whos gonna be the beast. How'd a big thrill to come since both of them getting hot and trained hard but as the result of their first fight might able to see still the same?

[fortunecrypto]

Ruiz and Anthony Joshua can fight all they want... but they can not get even near Tyson Fury.
He is better fighter in and out of ring tan both of them.
Joshua is still avoiding him, and that is hilarious  

Tyson has nothing to do with this fight let's focus on this one, why it's exciting we have seen a different fight on their first fight and so we have two hungry fighters one who wants to prove it's not a fluke the other who wants to prove it's not, so we have two hungry fighters, Tyson will have his time to anyone of the two, but right now it's Joshua and Ruiz.

[uray]

Tyson has nothing to do with this fight let's focus on this one,

Tyson Fury has nothing to do with the fight but it is true that Anthony Joshua and his management was avoiding him for a long time.

why it's exciting we have seen a different fight on their first fight and so we have two hungry fighters one who wants to prove it's not a fluke the other who wants to prove it's not, so we have two hungry fighters, Tyson will have his time to anyone of the two, but right now it's Joshua and Ruiz.

Anyone who watched the first fight knows it was not fluke knockout and Anthony Joshua did not have an answer for the punches and he quit without any answer and hence you cannot call it a fluke as Andy Ruiz was far superior in the first fight and in the second fight we will see whether AJ can stand with the elite fighters.

[inthelongrun]

Tyson has nothing to do with this fight let's focus on this one,

I think there is not yet a general boxing thread here so I can understand people talking other fighters but still inter connected like Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury has nothing to do with the fight but it is true that Anthony Joshua and his management was avoiding him for a long time.

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

[suzanne5223]

Tyson Fury has nothing to do with the fight but it is true that Anthony Joshua and his management was avoiding him for a long time.

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

[inthelongrun]

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     

[DarkDays]

Anybody else seen the latest pictures of Andy Ruiz lol, he looks heavier than he did in the first fight with Joshua, despite apparently losing a ton of weight.

I think he's going to come in approximately the same weight as before, which probably isn't a bad thing since he'll need that insulation to take some of AJ's shots.

Maybe a bookie should put a prediction market on Ruiz's prefight weight? I'm betting 270

[Theb]

Anybody else seen the latest pictures of Andy Ruiz lol, he looks heavier than he did in the first fight with Joshua, despite apparently losing a ton of weight.

I think he's going to come in approximately the same weight as before, which probably isn't a bad thing since he'll need that insulation to take some of AJ's shots.

Maybe a bookie should put a prediction market on Ruiz's prefight weight? I'm betting 270

I've watched a clip of him in Youtube which I think was uploaded just last week and I have to disagree with you maybe "heavier" is not the right term use here since he clearly lost weight but he physically gained a lot of muscles at the same time. So maybe the right word is "swole" he might even have more muscle mass compared to AJ now. Keep in mind that Andy Ruiz still has about a month left and he really looks prepared physically he even mentioned in the interview that he still intends to lose another 10 lbs before the official weight in and that weight cut I think will be converted to a more endurance type of boxer for Andy Ruiz.

[Baofeng]

Tyson Fury keeping it real,

Perhaps obvious to most of us Tyson Fury has pointed out that there is no chance of himself and Anthony Joshua ever fighting should the latter lose his December 7th world heavyweight title rematch against Andy Ruiz Jr.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-no-joshua-fight-if-he-loses-andy-ruiz--143821

Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

[NavI_027]

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome .

[mirakal]

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome .

AJ was still underrated, he needs to prove again in the rematch against AJ that he can win, if he loss, his dream might be over to face the 2 top boxers in his division.  He won by a major upset, so people are not convince since they believe AJ would dominate Ruiz in the first fight, it takes two fight for people to finally change their view.

[Jating]

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome .

AJ was still underrated, he needs to prove again in the rematch against AJ that he can win, if he loss, his dream might be over to face the 2 top boxers in his division.  He won by a major upset, so people are not convince since they believe AJ would dominate Ruiz in the first fight, it takes two fight for people to finally change their view.

And that is why this could be a redemption fight for Joshua to be in the discussions again if he win and KO Ruiz. And then the whole Fury vs AJ could be in the horizon or Wilder vs AJ, which ever comes first.

But if Joshua wins by a close UD their could be a third fight here and end everything in a trilogy. We don't know if there is a clause on something for a 3rd fight but it will be interesting to see if there is.

[Baofeng]

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome .

AJ was still underrated, he needs to prove again in the rematch against AJ that he can win, if he loss, his dream might be over to face the 2 top boxers in his division.  He won by a major upset, so people are not convince since they believe AJ would dominate Ruiz in the first fight, it takes two fight for people to finally change their view.

I would not say that AJ is underrated because of his lost to Ruiz. Remember that he beat Wladimir Klitschko (although that time Wladimir Klitschko is already past his prime). That's why I think it is still favour AJ in this rematch. AJ just need to focus on Andy Ruiz in this rematch and not discuss about his potential fight with Wilder or Fury. In his first fight against Ruiz, he admitted that he was looking about his futures fight with the two and that cost him a lot because Ruiz defeated him.

[Botnake]

I would not say that AJ is underrated because of his lost to Ruiz.

Ruiz is underrated I guess, this is base on the betting odds, he was the champion and AJ now is the challenger but still he remains the underdog in this 2 fights. Odds does not matter at all, its just the opinion of the majority of people (that's how odds maker make the odds), what matters is my analysis and my belief that Ruiz has a big shot of beating AJ twice.

[carlfebz2]

I would not say that AJ is underrated because of his lost to Ruiz.

Ruiz is underrated I guess, this is base on the betting odds, he was the champion and AJ now is the challenger but still he remains the underdog in this 2 fights. Odds does not matter at all, its just the opinion of the majority of people (that's how odds maker make the odds), what matters is my analysis and my belief that Ruiz has a big shot of beating AJ twice.

Each does have their own insights though and also to our favorites.Once you loss then its considered that the opponent is much better than you.
Some say that their last fight was a fluke but it isnt really actually yet AJ was just too careless yet he do mind up things which he plans in the future about
other fight on other boxer without even thinking or making himself safe in front of his opponent and now AJ becomes the challenger but i do also believe that he would able
to get it back but not would really be an easy job to do.

[ene1980]

Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

There is a lot of stakes for Anthony Joshua to win the fight and i hope he will be prepared for this one if not his golden days of making easy money will be over, he was selling record tickets for all of his fights but the loss has dented his plans and hence this rematch is a must win for Anthony Joshua and if he losses this one then his selling power will be a big issue.

[suzanne5223]

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     

I'm a boxing fan and I follow almost all the fighters you mention on Instagram so I only miss whats going on in the boxing if unable to check my Instagram account.
I misunderstand what you mean by turn up when you said because you don't explain it clearly. However, I don't see Ruiz taking Anthony cause Anthony don't feel bothered about his lost cause it long gone and what matters is their next fight.

[Lanatsa]

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     

I'm a boxing fan and I follow almost all the fighters you mention on Instagram so I only miss whats going on in the boxing if unable to check my Instagram account.
I misunderstand what you mean by turn up when you said because you don't explain it clearly. However, I don't see Ruiz taking Anthony cause Anthony don't feel bothered about his lost cause it long gone and what matters is their next fight.

Its impossible for us to think on that previous fight was already completely gone on AJ's side.I can rather say that he do made this
thing to be his motivation to beat him up on their rematch.Yeah the next match would be important but going back into the thing where
he committed loss because he was minding too much of future fights with other boxers is really a big mistake.

[d3nz]

Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

There is a lot of stakes for Anthony Joshua to win the fight and i hope he will be prepared for this one if not his golden days of making easy money will be over, he was selling record tickets for all of his fights but the loss has dented his plans and hence this rematch is a must win for Anthony Joshua and if he losses this one then his selling power will be a big issue.

I will vote for the biggest odds. Last time i voted Ruiz and and got a huge profit and for now i think joshua could win if he will not lose his stamina quickly. I hope joshua will have the biggest odd than ruiz but let's see.

But i'm all in with joshua that i think he will get his revenge.

[suzanne5223]

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     

I'm a boxing fan and I follow almost all the fighters you mention on Instagram so I only miss whats going on in the boxing if unable to check my Instagram account.
I misunderstand what you mean by turn up when you said because you don't explain it clearly. However, I don't see Ruiz taking Anthony cause Anthony don't feel bothered about his lost cause it long gone and what matters is their next fight.

Its impossible for us to think on that previous fight was already completely gone on AJ's side.I can rather say that he do made this
thing to be his motivation to beat him up on their rematch.Yeah the next match would be important but going back into the thing where
he committed loss because he was minding too much of future fights with other boxers is really a big mistake.

I'm not saying the previous was completely all gone on Anthony's side. What I'm trying to say is that he accept his mistakes, don't let it weigh him down and he's doing his best to learn and also correct it which his also the reason he's not bothered while he stay focus on what matters the most.