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November 30, 2019, 12:42:50 PM
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Guys, you should watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4

I think Ruiz mentally more prepared than Joshua. On minutes 09:48, he believes that AJ quit the last match. What do you think?

Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.

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November 30, 2019, 10:19:25 PM
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Guys, you should watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4

I think Ruiz mentally more prepared than Joshua. On minutes 09:48, he believes that AJ quit the last match. What do you think?

Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.

Yeah it was the referee that stop the fight,.. in boxing especially in championship fight, its very rare to see a fight quit even though its very clear that he was beaten up so badly, one example I can give is Oscar De La Hoya, he quit and gave Manny a TKO, but its know a heavyweight fight however, its all the same.

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December 01, 2019, 05:24:55 PM
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Guys, you should watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4

I think Ruiz mentally more prepared than Joshua. On minutes 09:48, he believes that AJ quit the last match. What do you think?

Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Ruiz was confidence because he has beaten Anthony before and is thought is that he have seeing Anthony's all while Anthony is not well prepared for the fight which is the reason why he ask for an immediate rematch to prove the first fight was just a fluke. Like you said, it very risky to his career and this is what make this rematch very important to him.
@mu_enrico, interview are just for evaluation and it can't 100% justify the result of the rematch.

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December 01, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
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Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Boxing is an art and Andy Ruiz got the better of Anthony Joshua in the first fight and there were reports that Anthony Joshua got knocked out in the gym while training for the Andy Ruiz fight and he was concussed coming into the main event and since it was his debut here in the US he was having panic attack in the back stage before coming to the ring and now he has a loss in his career and i am expecting him to fight better in this fight as it will be a career changing rematch and one more defeat will end the hype he created.
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December 01, 2019, 06:48:46 PM
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Guys, you should watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4

I think Ruiz mentally more prepared than Joshua. On minutes 09:48, he believes that AJ quit the last match. What do you think?

Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Ruiz was confidence because he has beaten Anthony before and is thought is that he have seeing Anthony's all while Anthony is not well prepared for the fight which is the reason why he ask for an immediate rematch to prove the first fight was just a fluke. Like you said, it very risky to his career and this is what make this rematch very important to him.
@mu_enrico, interview are just for evaluation and it can't 100% justify the result of the rematch.
Of course there would such kind of reasoning that AJ isnt on his top form when they fought which these fluke sayings flying everywhere.

Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.

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December 01, 2019, 11:54:06 PM
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Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Boxing is an art and Andy Ruiz got the better of Anthony Joshua in the first fight and there were reports that Anthony Joshua got knocked out in the gym while training for the Andy Ruiz fight and he was concussed coming into the main event and since it was his debut here in the US he was having panic attack in the back stage before coming to the ring and now he has a loss in his career and i am expecting him to fight better in this fight as it will be a career changing rematch and one more defeat will end the hype he created.

They wouldn't have let their prize fighter get into the ring if he had been KO'd in sparring, let's be honest.

Ruiz just got in a great shot, and AJ never recovered, it's as simple as that. Nobody could have seen that punch coming, AJ wasn't being sloppy at all.
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December 02, 2019, 05:47:01 PM
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Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.
If Andy Ruiz win the rematch then there is no point in having a trilogy and the promoters and the coaching staff of Anthony Joshua will be doing their best to prepare him to keep on winning as he is a big cash cow in the UK and if he needs to earn money like he used to do in the past he needs to win this rematch somehow and i am expecting a better prepared Anthony Joshua and i am waiting for the fight and still the underdog is Ruiz even though he won the first fight convincingly.
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December 02, 2019, 06:18:53 PM
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They wouldn't have let their prize fighter get into the ring if he had been KO'd in sparring, let's be honest.
Ruiz just got in a great shot, and AJ never recovered, it's as simple as that. Nobody could have seen that punch coming, AJ wasn't being sloppy at all.
I am not saying that Anthony Joshua lost because of a lucky shot, Andy Ruiz was a superior fighter in the first fight and i just said about the excuse the team said about the loss and it is not a fake news either as Anthony Joshua got knocked out during sparring session and once the fight is announced as the main event you cannot pull out just like that and the pressure will be too much.
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December 02, 2019, 07:05:14 PM
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Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.
If Andy Ruiz win the rematch then there is no point in having a trilogy and the promoters and the coaching staff of Anthony Joshua will be doing their best to prepare him to keep on winning as he is a big cash cow in the UK and if he needs to earn money like he used to do in the past he needs to win this rematch somehow and i am expecting a better prepared Anthony Joshua and i am waiting for the fight and still the underdog is Ruiz even though he won the first fight convincingly.

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

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December 02, 2019, 11:16:37 PM
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Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.
If Andy Ruiz win the rematch then there is no point in having a trilogy and the promoters and the coaching staff of Anthony Joshua will be doing their best to prepare him to keep on winning as he is a big cash cow in the UK and if he needs to earn money like he used to do in the past he needs to win this rematch somehow and i am expecting a better prepared Anthony Joshua and i am waiting for the fight and still the underdog is Ruiz even though he won the first fight convincingly.

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

Surely there will be a trilogy, Ruiz before the fight number 1 was just an ordinary boxer, now he became a superstar, and even if AJ will beat him in this upcoming fight, for sure AJ would give what Ruiz gave to him, its'a another chance for fans to see them fight again provided AJ will win this rematch.

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December 03, 2019, 10:20:13 AM
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Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.
If Andy Ruiz win the rematch then there is no point in having a trilogy and the promoters and the coaching staff of Anthony Joshua will be doing their best to prepare him to keep on winning as he is a big cash cow in the UK and if he needs to earn money like he used to do in the past he needs to win this rematch somehow and i am expecting a better prepared Anthony Joshua and i am waiting for the fight and still the underdog is Ruiz even though he won the first fight convincingly.

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

Yes it is there are a lot of uploaded  videos about the fights, some of them are interviewed on both camps and reviews on the upcoming fights, everyone here is excited, this is going to be a much bigger events than what happen in all the fights this year, I hope they eclipse the actions on their first meeting.

This is one of the videos I liked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fX6DuoAGxM

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December 03, 2019, 11:02:47 AM
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Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Boxing is an art and Andy Ruiz got the better of Anthony Joshua in the first fight and there were reports that Anthony Joshua got knocked out in the gym while training for the Andy Ruiz fight and he was concussed coming into the main event and since it was his debut here in the US he was having panic attack in the back stage before coming to the ring and now he has a loss in his career and i am expecting him to fight better in this fight as it will be a career changing rematch and one more defeat will end the hype he created.

That first fight served as a wake up call for AJ to be not over confident and not over looked opponents. Ruiz is a substitute opponent for AJ since Miller failed the drug test, that may also be the reason why AJ is over confident that he could beat Ruiz.

The first few rounds of the fight belongs to Joshua, in the third round, that's where the misery begins for AJ when he's trying to go for the kill when Ruiz was knock down and he's the one being hit by that short and crispy punch that put him in the canvass. I could not say that Ruiz is superior in the first fight, it's just that AJ was careless. Anyways, if AJ would still lose this rematch, his boxing career is over.

But still i am betting for AJ to win this one.

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December 03, 2019, 11:59:03 AM
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Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Boxing is an art and Andy Ruiz got the better of Anthony Joshua in the first fight and there were reports that Anthony Joshua got knocked out in the gym while training for the Andy Ruiz fight and he was concussed coming into the main event and since it was his debut here in the US he was having panic attack in the back stage before coming to the ring and now he has a loss in his career and i am expecting him to fight better in this fight as it will be a career changing rematch and one more defeat will end the hype he created.

That first fight served as a wake up call for AJ to be not over confident and not over looked opponents. Ruiz is a substitute opponent for AJ since Miller failed the drug test, that may also be the reason why AJ is over confident that he could beat Ruiz.

The first few rounds of the fight belongs to Joshua, in the third round, that's where the misery begins for AJ when he's trying to go for the kill when Ruiz was knock down and he's the one being hit by that short and crispy punch that put him in the canvass. I could not say that Ruiz is superior in the first fight, it's just that AJ was careless. Anyways, if AJ would still lose this rematch, his boxing career is over.

But still i am betting for AJ to win this one.

If you bet on AJ to win the fight whether through decision or KO, you will only get 1.44 odds, I think that's too cheap.

Maybe you'll consider betting on AJ to win via decision @ 5.40 because he might not be too confident in this fight trying to knock out the champ, maybe he will just use his length and consistently score throughout the 12 rounds.

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December 03, 2019, 12:15:04 PM
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Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Boxing is an art and Andy Ruiz got the better of Anthony Joshua in the first fight and there were reports that Anthony Joshua got knocked out in the gym while training for the Andy Ruiz fight and he was concussed coming into the main event and since it was his debut here in the US he was having panic attack in the back stage before coming to the ring and now he has a loss in his career and i am expecting him to fight better in this fight as it will be a career changing rematch and one more defeat will end the hype he created.

That first fight served as a wake up call for AJ to be not over confident and not over looked opponents. Ruiz is a substitute opponent for AJ since Miller failed the drug test, that may also be the reason why AJ is over confident that he could beat Ruiz.

The first few rounds of the fight belongs to Joshua, in the third round, that's where the misery begins for AJ when he's trying to go for the kill when Ruiz was knock down and he's the one being hit by that short and crispy punch that put him in the canvass. I could not say that Ruiz is superior in the first fight, it's just that AJ was careless. Anyways, if AJ would still lose this rematch, his boxing career is over.

But still i am betting for AJ to win this one.

And I thought the same thing, I thought back then it's  just another  fight and another paycheck for Joshua, but something happens, on this fight he should not only be motivated but also fast and strong, remember Ruiz is just a replacement, he really has no good preparation for that fight, what more if he is well prepared, so let's see.

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December 03, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
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Well then, that's interesting. Nor ring girls mean no ring emotions as well? What do you think?  Wink

But being serious, as each day goes by and brings us closer to this fight, I have much more doubts about AJ-s performance. He's a fantastic athlete, one of the best of his generation but there's something magical in this American-Mexican podge. He has so much power, so much flex, so much swag.

When he destroyed AJ in June, I was totally shocked. Now i see chances even at 50/50.
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December 03, 2019, 01:57:37 PM
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Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?
Usually a triology is interesting when two fighters are one and one in the win column and to know the ultimate winner a third fight is scheduled and if Andy Ruiz wins the second fight then what interest does it have from the audience when they know the result.

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.
Everyone is waiting to see what happens in this fight as Anthony Joshua needs to win this fight to have a successful career in boxing and a loss here will halt his career.
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December 03, 2019, 02:10:39 PM
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Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?
Usually a triology is interesting when two fighters are one and one in the win column and to know the ultimate winner a third fight is scheduled and if Andy Ruiz wins the second fight then what interest does it have from the audience when they know the result.

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.
Everyone is waiting to see what happens in this fight as Anthony Joshua needs to win this fight to have a successful career in boxing and a loss here will halt his career.

Could only happen if Joshua wins by decision or by knock out, I feel the pressure for Joshua because he is going to greatness until this fight happen, that loss was his first fight in America, and suddenly the hometown crowd is not within on that fight, he is used fighting at home and now for the second time he is not at home again, this fight will be either a road for redemption for him or a road for greatness for Ruiz, this is a must-win for him.

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December 03, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
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Guys, you should watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4

I think Ruiz mentally more prepared than Joshua. On minutes 09:48, he believes that AJ quit the last match. What do you think?

Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.
Ruiz was confidence because he has beaten Anthony before and is thought is that he have seeing Anthony's all while Anthony is not well prepared for the fight which is the reason why he ask for an immediate rematch to prove the first fight was just a fluke. Like you said, it very risky to his career and this is what make this rematch very important to him.
@mu_enrico, interview are just for evaluation and it can't 100% justify the result of the rematch.
Of course there would such kind of reasoning that AJ isnt on his top form when they fought which these fluke sayings flying everywhere.

Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.
Everybody knows that the rematch between the two fighter (Anthony and Ruiz) won't be an easy fight which is the reason why Ruiz took his time to train hard till the extent of loosing some few pounds and a lot of comment have been made about Ruiz weight lost  that it will trigger his lost to Anthony during the rematch which I also believe.
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December 03, 2019, 03:17:46 PM
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Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.
If Andy Ruiz win the rematch then there is no point in having a trilogy and the promoters and the coaching staff of Anthony Joshua will be doing their best to prepare him to keep on winning as he is a big cash cow in the UK and if he needs to earn money like he used to do in the past he needs to win this rematch somehow and i am expecting a better prepared Anthony Joshua and i am waiting for the fight and still the underdog is Ruiz even though he won the first fight convincingly.

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

Surely there will be a trilogy, Ruiz before the fight number 1 was just an ordinary boxer, now he became a superstar, and even if AJ will beat him in this upcoming fight, for sure AJ would give what Ruiz gave to him, its'a another chance for fans to see them fight again provided AJ will win this rematch.

AJ was given a rematch because they have that clause in the first fight. That's why Ruiz have no choice but to follow what he had sign in the contract.

But I do agree that if AJ wins convincingly he should give Ruiz a chance for a trilogy. Andy already in Saudi he meet the Saudi Royal family and has media day.

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December 03, 2019, 04:37:52 PM
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All these boxers and experts are all one in saying that the result will be same, Wilder, Fury they are all saying the same thing, it's really a big pressure for Joshua because people saw how he give up the fight, he do not have a big heart like all the champions that will fight to the death for the title, maybe a rematch is playing in his mind in their first match, the pressure really is huge for Joshua i hope he can carry it.
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