Bankera/Spectrocoin paid shills bumping the thread 24/7 Creating a fake buzz !!!

Apparently there have been unresolved scam accusations against Bankera dating back to February 2017. Just a reminder for everybody on why Bankera is a scam:

Quote from: Alert guy on August 27, 2017, 08:45:43 AM

How they Bankera is a Scam:
Bankera is Founded by the two scam artist Vytautas Karalevičius & Mantas Mockevičius who has proved to scam many members with 150 BTC+

Bankera Scam ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093
Bankera ICo introducer Scammer's Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1101537
Scam Website: www.bankera.com

Note: I made a string operation and asked them for money to keep things quite and to see if they really aware of it and yes they were , after hooking on some result they banned me on slack.

Unresolve Scam allegation against Spectrocoin:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1515839.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586595.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669877.0

Some details about the Scammers:

Vytautas Karalevičius:

Mantas Mockevičius

He is the Main Culprit behind the scams, i am currently accumulating major Info against him, and i have do contacted the previous victim of spectrocoin to take legal action against : Mantas Mockevičius

The bitcointalk profile of te CEO is already red and needs more red feedbacks: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317543

More Information about these two scammers coming soon, A class action will be taken soon.

Stay Tuned.

I would like to see how community responds to it.

Their token has done nothing but plummet in value since December. You'd have to be a madman to get involved with this project now.

Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 08:15:11 AM

Apparently there have been unresolved scam accusations against Bankera dating back to February 2017. Just a reminder for everybody on why Bankera is a scam:

Their token has done nothing but plummet in value since December. You'd have to be a madman to get involved with this project now.

Glad to see we are no more Bankera paid shillers but that he problem for you is an invented scam accusation (By your multiaccount group), so just to remind the readers, if a company is a scam what do you think that would happen if this same company faced the Central Lithuanian Bank (LCB) in a court? Please take into account that Lithuania is an European country and for it, the LCB is supervised by the European Central Bank, so what do you think that a "supposed scam company mounted by two very known scammer who stolen 200 BTC from users" will face in a gouvernment court against the LCB ?

Well nothing, not even a suspecious acam activity as it is a regulated company and works with AML, this is the information, the reality, the real world, not some...forum member active 24/7/365 to try to get money from fudding:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52110407#msg52110407

Quote from: Scroogge on August 09, 2019, 12:44:32 PM

Not to forget that we have real Information here also:

Regarding all the story related to UAB Pervesk, Spectrocoin, Lithuanian Bank and FNTT, long story short:

1) Lithuanian Bank has checked UAB Pervesk (partnership with Bankera, belongs to the same owners, has an Electronic Mony license in Lithuania with a right to operate in all European Union Member States), FNTT (lit. - Finansinių Nusikaltimų Tyrimo Tarnyba - special Lithuanian criminal investigation body for the investigation of the financial crimes and all related) also participated in this audit.

use google translate (Verslo Žinios in Lithuania is the same as Financial Times for the rest of the world - the most credible resource):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu

2) all the story is about KYC regulations - Know Your Client it is connected to AML (Anti Money Laundering), policies the Finantial institutions (UAB Pervesk in this case) has to implement to prevent crimes, basically to collect a relevant data from your Clients related to the source of the money. This audit had nothing to do with a scam or something like that!!!!!

3) One more time - the story with fines and FNTT is only related to KYC procedures!! Only!!!

4) Vilnius regional administrative court has lifted All the fines from UAB Pervesk and it`s CEO!!

read an 12-06-2019 article about that in Verslo Žinios (google translate will help):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2019/06/12/teismas-panaikino-baudas-bankeros-ikurejui-ir-susijusiai-imonei

and our Lithuanian second biggest news website 15min:
https://www.15min.lt/verslas/naujiena/bendroves/teismas-panaikino-pervesk-ir-jos-vadovui-skirtas-baudas-663-1158840

5) AND FINALLY - LITHUANIAN CENTRAL BANK HAS ANNOUNCED ITSELF THAT on 25-01-2019 IT HAS LIFTED ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND UAB PERVESK HAS NO MORE KYC ISSUES!!!!
READ OFFICIAL LITHUANIAN BANK`S STATEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

https://www.lb.lt/lt/naujienos/lietuvos-banko-valdybos-nutarimai-140

Second section of the announcement, google translate will help to translate from Lithuanian.

Believe only official-governmental resources!!!! not some BS some haters are spreading here!!!

Enjoy your day!

Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 07:23:33 AM

All I can see here is mosprognoz is great at sussing out scam projects or at least projects with scammy features. By creating such a stir here all you are doing is assuring that many more critical eyes will be taking a look at Bankera shortly. You better hope all your shit is in order over there because you just woke up the beast.

Well Let's face it. Untill today there wasn't one single piece off evidence presented. becides hundreds of inults scam accusations NOTHING was found.

What we can see on the other hand. Is that our dear mister Mosprognoz is hiding behind an alter ego. Why doesn't he tell who he is? If he is only helping us all there wouldn't be a problem to know who he really is right?
Let's get the playing field on that same level that YOU GUYS want.
Who is the mysterious Mosprognoz? We all know whi Bankera is and their founders.

Quote from: JimmySlander on August 11, 2019, 08:40:01 AM

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Dude, nobody cares about your bullshit here. Look at your profile. All of you have almost same profiles. Woke up, with changed emails and passwords. That is the clear sign that account was hacked or bought. I am tired of you dude. Bye and take care.

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 11, 2019, 09:03:19 AM

Quote from: JimmySlander on August 11, 2019, 08:40:01 AM

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Who is Mosprognos?

You are here for the truth , right?
So let's get the truth out! who is Mosprognoz?

All of those community members can be seen active and posting for years
in the official chat (Chat.bankera.com). BTCtalk was never the main communication chanel
for the community (I now see why...). Therefore many accounts were not used for quite some time.
Some users started delivering facts in here and many of the community joined them. Why should someone buy
accounts that have only jr. member or lower rank or not even that (you probably buy only high rank profiles, aren’t you? Lips sealed

) That makes no sense. Why should they start now with it and not months ago? Can you deliver some/any reasoning?

Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 09:17:46 AM

What a pretty little merit network:

EUH YEAH!
nothing to hide here. Off course we are giving merrit to each other. Just like you guys are doing, LOL

And off course that's what you have found. Becuase that's how you guys work. No wonder that's the first thing you started looking for. But we are catching up and learning to play the same game.

But how about getting the playing field on the same level?
We all know how the founders are and the companies. Let's us know who Mosprognoz is?

Quote from: EA001 on August 11, 2019, 09:27:34 AM

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 11, 2019, 02:50:36 AM

Quote from: JimmySlander on August 10, 2019, 07:12:08 PM

And if we decided to come back after a long time of inactivity that is not breaking an rule neither we have to live all day here as he does.

Yes sure, 8 or 9 profiles suddenly woke up to defend the project. Some of them after an year of inactivity, some of them after half an year of inactivity and some of them after 5 years of inactivity. And all of them suddenly decided to change emails and passwords. And all of them started posting on the same day and continued 24/7 ... Great bankera community...

Mate we have something to lose at Bankera (OUR INVESTMENT). If we saw you have good proof that they are scam, we would have sold our tokens and supported your claims. However, we had proof (verifiable online) that they are not a scam. Let's talk in a calm way, okay? We do not need any reason to come here and support the project. We have one and only one good reason, most of us have been involved in it since late 2017 (since the pre-ICO) and we are not scammed so we just came to stop the FUD that isn't based on actual proofs. There is nothing that can stop us because our hard earned money is invested in the project! We are not spreading fake claims. All of our claims are linked to proofs online about Bankera. We came here to argue in goodwill against the scam accusations and that's what we have done.
You may actually have called actual scams and that's good work! But as far as we have actual proofs and documents proving the company is registered in EEA countries and holds licenses, we cannot let those scam accusations be spread without proof. If you had proof, we would not be able to argue at all. It is our money again! You for sure know how big of factor that is, don't you? The same as we want our investment to pay off (which it is paying off each week getting a revenue just for holding BNK), the same as we would GLADLY run away if it is a scam.

Second that!
He is scamming us out of our money with his constant slandering and that needs to stop!

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 09:21:16 AM

All of those community members can be seen active and posting for years in the official chat (Chat.bankera.com).

Completely irrelevant.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 09:21:16 AM

BTCtalk was never the main communication chanel for the community (I now see why...).

Right, this isn't your website, so you can't censor anything negative about your project here.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 09:21:16 AM

Some users started delivering facts in here and many of the community joined them.

Seems like all they've done is smear mosprognoz.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 09:21:16 AM

Why should they start now with it and not months ago? Can you deliver some/any reasoning?

Sure, you know the answer already, but its because mosprognoz poked Bankera with this comment:

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 05, 2019, 02:47:18 AM

Quote from: Milky86 on August 04, 2019, 04:48:32 PM

Quote from: leoprince on August 04, 2019, 04:11:12 PM

SCAM. These people have to go to jail

When you say slowly do you mean in a couple of years or 5-10 years?

No dude, 1 year will be enough. Very soon we will see Mr. ~~Karalevičius~~ Scamralevičius and co behind bars.

Check this post to know more about bankera scammers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52076211#msg52076211

Or maybe it was his next comment, or maybe both:

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 05, 2019, 08:31:00 AM

Quote from: john_jones on August 05, 2019, 07:55:44 AM

They already have Spectrocoin, Bankera Exchange, and Bankera loans.

All of them are SCAMS !!!! Nobody is using spectrocoin any more because of ridiculous fees and crappy service. There are hundreds of other much more better similar services. Bankera exchange is just a useless website which is showing around $45 trading volume daily.... Nobody is using their shitty loans because there are illegal.Also there are already many companies that are offering legitimate and much more cheaper crypto loans. All this shit was made just to convince investors that bankera is doing something . In the fact they did absolutely nothing, but stealing the astronomical amount of money collected during their ICO. OK let me guess.. How much does it cost to launch a crypto exchange? Not more than 20 BTC for sure. How much does it cost to launch an online crypto lending platform? Not more that 10 BTC for sure. Now lets calculate....

ICO collected funds = 120 000 000 USD

Spent amount for Exchange and Loan service = NOT MORE THAT 30 BTC = 300 000 USD !!!

Stolen amount = 119 700 000

Over a dozen accounts woke up the next day to all begin a coordinated attack on him. You have very little knowledge of how the trust system actually works, because if you did, you wouldn't have bothered all leaving negative trust for him and positive trust for yourselves, because its meaningless to default users. Same thing for your flags. However, my trust for you isn't meaningless, and neither is my flag support.

So the user nutildah believes that showing pictures of people in jail is a productive way of warning people of scams.
To me it looks like spreading FUD in a rude and probably illegal way. The official chat is not censored and plenty of criticism from the community can be found there. That is okay because the project has its flaws (like every other project) but it is definitely no scam as was proven many time in the Bankera thread. Although mosprognoz was posting such pictures not only once. So why should we all come here now? Because we are tired of all the refuted FUD against the project which we believe and invested in.

Great research. Thanks a lot. Now all of them will try to spam this thread to hide this information. I will add it to the topic. It will be better for us to stop answering them. Let them spam before mods will not ban them.
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Ach Mösenprognose... My dear and your friend Nuttentilda.... what this topic now? nothing better to do then still spreading FUD ?

A Lithuanian TV chanel made a documentation regarding Fintech and Blockchain in the country.
The documentation also featured Bankera. Watch it here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8KS-F4Z7eE&t=623s
I think a scam company would not look like what we can see in the video.
Anyway I advice everyone to look up the facts and make their own decisions.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 09:58:58 AM

Anyway I advice everyone to look up the facts and make their own decisions.

Good advice - here's what I came up with after some fact finding:

SpectroCoin Receives Crypto Licences in Estonia

We are delighted and proud to announce that SpectroCoin now officially holds so called crypto licences for “Providing services of exchanging a virtual currency against a fiat currency” and “Providing a virtual currency wallet service” in Estonia.

https://blog.spectrocoin.com/en/2019/01/spectrocoin-receives-crypto-licences-in-estonia/

Both can be found in

https://mtr.mkm.ee/taotluse_tulemus/500169?backurl=%40juriidiline_isik_show%3Fid%3D245024

https://mtr.mkm.ee/taotluse_tulemus/500164?backurl=%40juriidiline_isik_show%3Fid%3D245024

It is from the Ministery of Estonia...

Who knows...may be Estonia is also a paid shiller of Bankera no? Grin

Quote from: bones261 on August 11, 2019, 01:15:29 AM

Quote from: ToWS on August 10, 2019, 10:40:56 PM

#blurryeyed Perhaps it’s time to ask yourself if you’re supporting the right side? The motto of Bitcoin is “don’t trust, verify”, right? Well, I have verified for myself that several of the accounts listed above are real individuals, not fake shill accounts as you so airily assume. I have verified that Bankera, while slow, disappointing and generally infuriating, is patently not a scam. And simply by reading a few of his posts I find that mosprognoz is a racist and bully who threatens sexual violence to the partners (and even mothers!) of people who disagree with him. Is he really a scam fighter, or just feeding from the scams he starts?

If your accusation is true please report these posts or PMs to the moderators or administrators as soon as you read them. (So that mosprognoz can't delete them.) These are against the rules and results in a ban. Please provide us proof of your accusations. Quite frankly, I think you just made this serious accusation up. If mosprognoz did these threats on another platform, please send us examples.

@bones261, thank you for the advice. To be clear, I haven't received any PMs and I have no contact with mosprognoz on other platforms, neither have I personally been threatened. However, I stand by my post, anyone reading the [ANN]BANKERA – Building the Bank for the Blockchain Era thread will have seen several examples of mosprognoz's bullying language. It looks like many examples seem to have been deleted already (perhaps after I reported one of them to a moderator) but echoes still remain. For example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52094627#msg52094627 "I am sure your mom was a whore. And she was fucking random dudes in front of you. And you liked it. Now your wife is doing the same and you like to watch that too... etc"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52093134#msg52093134 "your grandpa was a Nazi... etc"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52093568#msg52093568 "You are a worthless piece of shit... etc"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52093885#msg52093885 "Take photos up your scummy ass... etc"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52094627#msg52094627 "Let me fuck the wife of yours for 0.0001 BTC.

Quote from: blurryeyed on August 11, 2019, 11:00:17 AM

Shill accounts are bumping their own scam thread.

That is really something new here on bitcointalk..... Let them bump. The topic will be always in the top of scam accusations, and more people will see this thread.