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October 01, 2019, 03:28:04 PM
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The secret to gambling is that you should not do it unless you have some kind of edge so the odds are in your favor not the opposite.
We all know how difficult it is to have the odd in our favor and one will see this  statement as that which can bring discouragement to the likes of a gambler if odds are the ground to gamble. Personally I gamble based on fun and to just entertain myself, not for the purpose of  odds.
Gambling has no secret because its a game base on LUCK and not by any form of specialties from gamblers. The only game that deviate from this is: Poker game, which I understand it rudiments.
Mainly there is no secret in gambling only pure luck when comes. You should not do it if not willing to lose because we may ended up nothing. Indeed difficult to gamble when odd not on our side when playing. Just control our emotions because sometimes it is the result of being in loss in a game.
Managing our emotions really matters in playing gambling and I think that is the reason none other than that. If we can able to control our emotion it can somehow prevent a big loss ang prevent us for getting addicted on the game. Besides, gambling is all about luck, luck dictates the game whether to win or lose and that's what most of us lack.
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October 01, 2019, 04:01:14 PM
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Is there anything really? I don't think so. If you win then win, if you lose then loose, What is your secret? if you compare with cryptocurrency-based gambling to conventional gambling system then it's a different issue, we know crypto-based gambling is much safer than fiat money based gambling, not only that but also crypto-based gambling would give you more pleasure than the other existing thing. so do you want to say crypto-based gambling is the secret of your gambling? I agree with you on this point, but self-control is top-secret for gambling for me, I have discussed a lot of gamblers who gains a lot from gambling, most of them emphasize on the controlling and well managed your money. I think the platform is not a matter, self-esteem and control is the main element of this gambling segment.

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October 01, 2019, 04:12:12 PM
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The secret to gambling is that you should not do it unless you have some kind of edge so the odds are in your favor not the opposite.
We all know how difficult it is to have the odd in our favor and one will see this  statement as that which can bring discouragement to the likes of a gambler if odds are the ground to gamble. Personally I gamble based on fun and to just entertain myself, not for the purpose of  odds.
Gambling has no secret because its a game base on LUCK and not by any form of specialties from gamblers. The only game that deviate from this is: Poker game, which I understand it rudiments.
Mainly there is no secret in gambling only pure luck when comes. You should not do it if not willing to lose because we may ended up nothing. Indeed difficult to gamble when odd not on our side when playing. Just control our emotions because sometimes it is the result of being in loss in a game.
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If someone offers the secret in gambling, that means he is going to trick you, and you should better not to trust him. Maybe the secret is how we can trick the opponent so that we can win from them.
Absolutely correct; there is no secret but, we must promote them for those who believed in secret to play. Those secrets some gamblers speak to be are not what they are in the actual sense. Saying you have a secret to gambling is a total fallacy. With the exemption of poker game which actually need learning before play.
Gambling is simply game of luck, so there's no trick at all, and many casinos are countering it by their own rules just like in blackjack there's a counting card trick there, but the Casino's are countering it by shuffling every deal or using a four-deck of cards with special rules. For me, gambling is just a form of entertainment don't believe in any trick or what, enjoy the experience and thrill when you are playing. If you are lucky, go all in! haha
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October 01, 2019, 07:49:37 PM
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After playing gambling games hundreds of times, without much effort in winning substantial profits at all

In here you have already answered the question below as after a hundred of times without much effort in winning,that means you as a long time gambler found nothing about the secrets(of gaming from playing)so for me as like yours no secret at all but only a Chances to win or to lose
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Which is why, I'm deeply curious to know if there's actually a secret within gambling that would allow me to win more than losing? Any thoughts about this will be greatly appreciated. Smiley
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October 02, 2019, 03:21:21 AM
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There are always going to be some days that you win and some days that you are just going to lose. I like to play a little Blackjack every now and then. But the issue with that and other table games and slots is the house always has a better chance. I try to stick to sports betting for the most part as the casinos make their profit  off of bets placed. I also like to stick to playoffs when it comes to sports as it seems like that is when games are least likely rigged. During the regular season someone in the team could place their money on them to lose (being the favorite) and make more off of one game of losing then they would the entire contract. Then play their best in playoffs.

I feel like anything can be rigged but sports is always going to be a 50/50 chance. You will always just win or lose, and for the most part if you bet favorites you (SHOULD) win more then you lose. Though it will pay less to bet the favorite unless you are to bet the spread.

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October 02, 2019, 07:52:49 AM
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~If we can't control strong emotions like anger, fear (maybe, greed too) once they are triggered, we should do our best to avoid situations where such emotions arise and take control over us.

That's a possibility, of course, but since it is very important for our daily life to know how control those emotions, we can use gambling as a great playground for practicing the necessary skills. I mean, when someone is bad at math, he can avoid situations where his lack of knowledge may cost him, but, alternatively, he can learn math from engaging in such situations, and this will help him a lot in the future

Well, I can't say that I particularly disagree with your point

Basically, what you are trying to say comes down to rendering a particular trigger harmless, i.e. stopping it from being a trigger of a certain emotion. For example, you may suffer from acrophobia (extreme fear of heights) that makes you panicky whenever you find yourself in a triggering situation (e.g. on the roof of a skyscraper or within close proximity of a panoramic window near the top of that building). Technically, you could work with this fear and probably get satisfying results after some effort (or should I actually say pain and suffering?). But is it worth it when you can simply avoid such situations and happily live with that?

I know for sure that acrophobia can be treated and overcome(a friend of mine has successfully done that). Was the struggle worth it? Absolutely. Living in a city with many multi-storey buildings, it's very inconvenient, and sometimes embarrassing, to have this phobia.

Now back to gambling. The inability to control emotions is much worse of a problem than acrophobia. If you can't control your emotions, you can get in trouble several times per day even living on a desert island, let alone in a city. So, I think, curing the inability should be a top priority for anyone possessing it. And gambling can help in this regard. You may lose some money in the process, but if you will finally learn how to control your emotions, the outcome is priceless.

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October 02, 2019, 08:39:06 AM
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~If we can't control strong emotions like anger, fear (maybe, greed too) once they are triggered, we should do our best to avoid situations where such emotions arise and take control over us.

That's a possibility, of course, but since it is very important for our daily life to know how control those emotions, we can use gambling as a great playground for practicing the necessary skills. I mean, when someone is bad at math, he can avoid situations where his lack of knowledge may cost him, but, alternatively, he can learn math from engaging in such situations, and this will help him a lot in the future

Well, I can't say that I particularly disagree with your point

Basically, what you are trying to say comes down to rendering a particular trigger harmless, i.e. stopping it from being a trigger of a certain emotion. For example, you may suffer from acrophobia (extreme fear of heights) that makes you panicky whenever you find yourself in a triggering situation (e.g. on the roof of a skyscraper or within close proximity of a panoramic window near the top of that building). Technically, you could work with this fear and probably get satisfying results after some effort (or should I actually say pain and suffering?). But is it worth it when you can simply avoid such situations and happily live with that?

I know for sure that acrophobia can be treated and overcome(a friend of mine has successfully done that). Was the struggle worth it? Absolutely. Living in a city with many multi-storey buildings, it's very inconvenient, and sometimes embarrassing, to have this phobia

But that actually proves my point

Note that it doesn't disprove yours as we are essentially on the same page here. Your friend is living in a city where his phobia is a real problem, so it is worth dealing with and getting rid of. In other words, the circumstances justify the pain involved and effort spent. But what if he was living in a village, small town or even a large city like Washington? Would it be worth the trouble then?

Now back to gambling. The inability to control emotions is much worse of a problem than acrophobia. If you can't control your emotions, you can get in trouble several times per day even living on a desert island, let alone in a city. So, I think, curing the inability should be a top priority for anyone possessing it

And this is where opinions vary strongly

And the prevailing one seems to be that we can't voluntarily control our primal emotions like fear or anger once they have been triggered (so-called refractory period). So we basically have two major ways of dealing with such emotions. The first way is to avoid the trigger completely (whenever possible), while the second way is to come to terms with our inability to consciously control these emotions and through this reduce their negative impact on us by letting them run their course and expire on their own. The implication is that we make things only worse by creating positive feedback loops if we are trying to vigorously fight such emotions. Indeed, in real life you can combine these two approaches depending on the specific circumstances

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October 02, 2019, 09:37:25 AM
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The secret to gambling is that you should not do it unless you have some kind of edge so the odds are in your favor not the opposite.
We all know how difficult it is to have the odd in our favor and one will see this  statement as that which can bring discouragement to the likes of a gambler if odds are the ground to gamble. Personally I gamble based on fun and to just entertain myself, not for the purpose of  odds.
Gambling has no secret because its a game base on LUCK and not by any form of specialties from gamblers. The only game that deviate from this is: Poker game, which I understand it rudiments.
Mainly there is no secret in gambling only pure luck when comes. You should not do it if not willing to lose because we may ended up nothing. Indeed difficult to gamble when odd not on our side when playing. Just control our emotions because sometimes it is the result of being in loss in a game.
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If someone offers the secret in gambling, that means he is going to trick you, and you should better not to trust him. Maybe the secret is how we can trick the opponent so that we can win from them.
Absolutely correct; there is no secret but, we must promote them for those who believed in secret to play. Those secrets some gamblers speak to be are not what they are in the actual sense. Saying you have a secret to gambling is a total fallacy. With the exemption of poker game which actually need learning before play.
Those who says there is no secret are those who don’t know gambling.  They actually ask for skills to gamble. We should choose good site and be patient while gambling. Keep in your mind that earning and lose is 50/50. You will have to earn with practice and skills. If you will lose hope or become emotional you could lose, poker players will have to work hard.

All of you are right. We agree that no secret in gambling. I remember that I receive some emails about the gambling strategy, and the writer mentions the secret, I only smile while I read the email. Without reading all of the emails, I directly delete the email. Gladly, at that time, I already knew that there is no secret to win in gambling.

We can learn the skills for playing gambling, but that will not guarantee us to win the game because we need one thing which is luck to win. Without luck, we never win gambling at all.

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October 02, 2019, 04:24:40 PM
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Which is why, I'm deeply curious to know if there's actually a secret within gambling that would allow me to win more than losing? Any thoughts about this will be greatly appreciated. Smiley
In some places specially in Asia there are beliefs and rituals some gamblers do as they believe this could bring them fortune and go home with the winnings
But the truth is this was just a positive mind settings to condition their selves and to attract positivities before betting.and in the end of the day losing still dominates the games

I’m telling this to prove that there’s no secret in gambling but it’s a timing of the luck goes on your side then surely the winner,
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October 03, 2019, 02:26:37 AM
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After playing gambling games hundreds of times, without much effort in winning substantial profits at all

In here you have already answered the question below as after a hundred of times without much effort in winning,that means you as a long time gambler found nothing about the secrets(of gaming from playing)so for me as like yours no secret at all but only a Chances to win or to lose
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Which is why, I'm deeply curious to know if there's actually a secret within gambling that would allow me to win more than losing? Any thoughts about this will be greatly appreciated. Smiley
After reading pages of this thread we can finally conclude that NO there’s is nothing about secrets and if does it’s not really functional and effective
Why not there is secret that we can use as gambling like using a good game that you are well aware of.  Never be so Impatient try to save your money by not gambling again at once. Use strategies and be wise not to be greedy. Control your emotions don’t lose your hope, keep in your mind that in gambling you can win and lose but never stop.
Lol “Never Stop” when you knew already that it’s more on losing than winning?does it sounds like a suicidal move?why not just play when you feel so like and stop when you lose?

Gambling is not a n obligation to fulfill so there’s no need for not stopping at all,I’m afraid that if you can control yourself but don’t stop playing what would be the outcome?
only 1 secret i could think about all over my experienced is that...  "Know your limits"

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Simple but perfect answer,but I think it wasn’t really a secret but the truth is “Knowing Limitations” was being denied by greediness

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October 03, 2019, 07:08:29 AM
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After playing gambling games hundreds of times, without much effort in winning substantial profits at all

In here you have already answered the question below as after a hundred of times without much effort in winning,that means you as a long time gambler found nothing about the secrets(of gaming from playing)so for me as like yours no secret at all but only a Chances to win or to lose
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Which is why, I'm deeply curious to know if there's actually a secret within gambling that would allow me to win more than losing? Any thoughts about this will be greatly appreciated. Smiley
After reading pages of this thread we can finally conclude that NO there’s is nothing about secrets and if does it’s not really functional and effective
Why not there is secret that we can use as gambling like using a good game that you are well aware of.  Never be so Impatient try to save your money by not gambling again at once. Use strategies and be wise not to be greedy. Control your emotions don’t lose your hope, keep in your mind that in gambling you can win and lose but never stop.
Lol “Never Stop” when you knew already that it’s more on losing than winning?does it sounds like a suicidal move?why not just play when you feel so like and stop when you lose?

Gambling is not a n obligation to fulfill so there’s no need for not stopping at all,I’m afraid that if you can control yourself but don’t stop playing what would be the outcome?
only 1 secret i could think about all over my experienced is that...  "Know your limits"

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Simple but perfect answer,but I think it wasn’t really a secret but the truth is “Knowing Limitations” was being denied by greediness

"knowing limitations"... that's an interesting phrase!
I believe most people want to "deny" that they have limitations, they don't want to believe there are limitations and not just their "wants".
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October 03, 2019, 08:00:54 AM
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Most of us are living in the present moment without ever looking back as to what happened in the past in similar circumstances or looking forward as to the remote consequences of our actions. Gambling is a perfect example of this pattern of behavior, and especially its extreme form which reveals itself in addiction when a gambling addict exists only in the present quite literally, with no memory of the past and with no idea about the future

Controlling those strong emotions that is in all of us is like addiction in gambling, which is hard to control once it became your habit, on a certain situation, you will trigger it always because it is your body and mind reacting to that (or what we called muscle memory), researchers says it is a disease, but it is curable in a procedure that we called "rehabilitation" with also the help of some medicines

This issue has been discussed at length before

The addiction "disease" is completely curable only when a person suffering from it has it in him to fight it (read, no medicine is going to prevent a relapse as it is entirely on the person). The sad irony is that people who become addicts don't have it in them as otherwise they wouldn't develop an addiction in the first place because they would stop halfway as soon as they feel their wellness is being threatened by the misuse or abuse of something (i.e. excessive gambling). In other words, it requires dramatic and permanent shifts in the psychological makeup of an addict to really get rid of his addiction, once and for all (read, it is next to impossible)

the sad part is that if a person didn't know that he is sick or didn't want to believe that he needs to be cured or else, everything about his life would turn into chaos

Most such addicts (e.g. drugs or gambling addicts) are perfectly well aware of their addiction and they still can't do anything with it. This just shows how firmly our minds and thoughts are tied to our body and its desires

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October 03, 2019, 08:59:52 AM
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Now back to gambling. The inability to control emotions is much worse of a problem than acrophobia. If you can't control your emotions, you can get in trouble several times per day even living on a desert island, let alone in a city. So, I think, curing the inability should be a top priority for anyone possessing it

And this is where opinions vary strongly

And the prevailing one seems to be that we can't voluntarily control our primal emotions like fear or anger once they have been triggered (so-called refractory period). So we basically have two major ways of dealing with such emotions. The first way is to avoid the trigger completely (whenever possible), while the second way is to come to terms with our inability to consciously control these emotions and through this reduce their negative impact on us by letting them run their course and expire on their own. The implication is that we make things only worse by creating positive feedback loops if we are trying to vigorously fight such emotions. Indeed, in real life you can combine these two approaches depending on the specific circumstances

Actually I can't see where our opinions vary strongly. Smiley I am a realist (or at least trying to be one), and thus I don't think that the inability to control emotions can be cured completely. I even don't think that there is a person on this planet who can keep their emotions under control all the time. Yes, in real life we constantly combine different approaches depending on the circumstances.


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I believe most people want to "deny" that they have limitations, they don't want to believe there are limitations and not just their "wants".

I disagree. Although anyone can lose control at some point, I think most people know their limits most of the time, or otherwise we would live in complete chaos. According to stats, 3% to 5% of all gamblers struggle with a gambling problem. See, 3%-5%, not most of them.

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October 03, 2019, 10:31:15 AM
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there is indeed a secret in gambling, because gambling is a lucky game then the secret in gambling itself is about luck, right. even people who don't know anything about gambling can win quickly. so to formulate secrets in gambling seems impossible and luckily for those who have a higher luck factor than other gamblers
I keep thinking about this, besides luck, is calm and daring to take decisions is also one of the keys to success in gambling? I have several friends who are quick and brave to make decisions when gambling when they know that in gambling the chance to win / lose is the same.

 
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October 03, 2019, 12:24:17 PM
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Now back to gambling. The inability to control emotions is much worse of a problem than acrophobia. If you can't control your emotions, you can get in trouble several times per day even living on a desert island, let alone in a city. So, I think, curing the inability should be a top priority for anyone possessing it

And this is where opinions vary strongly

And the prevailing one seems to be that we can't voluntarily control our primal emotions like fear or anger once they have been triggered (so-called refractory period). So we basically have two major ways of dealing with such emotions. The first way is to avoid the trigger completely (whenever possible), while the second way is to come to terms with our inability to consciously control these emotions and through this reduce their negative impact on us by letting them run their course and expire on their own. The implication is that we make things only worse by creating positive feedback loops if we are trying to vigorously fight such emotions. Indeed, in real life you can combine these two approaches depending on the specific circumstances

Actually I can't see where our opinions vary strongly. Smiley I am a realist (or at least trying to be one), and thus I don't think that the inability to control emotions can be cured completely. I even don't think that there is a person on this planet who can keep their emotions under control all the time. Yes, in real life we constantly combine different approaches depending on the circumstances

It is not our opinions that vary so much

I mean there are two groups of people advocating quite opposite views. The first says you can control your emotions freely at all times (i.e. stop a certain emotion at any moment) after some practice, the other insists that it is impossible as emotions are essentially complex chemical processes which once triggered cannot be stopped at will. But it doesn't mean that some people cannot be less reactive than others due to their internal chemistry

And while that chemistry could in fact be altered to a certain degree through conscious effort and continual practice, its basic specs remain unchanged as they are hardwired in us. All emotion-control practices essentially aim to affect the intensity of an emotion, i.e. how strong you react to certain events (read, if you get infuriated bigtime somehow, you still won't be able to keep your cool anyway)

I keep thinking about this, besides luck, is calm and daring to take decisions is also one of the keys to success in gambling? I have several friends who are quick and brave to make decisions when gambling when they know that in gambling the chance to win / lose is the same

It doesn't change the odds, so it doesn't really matter if you place your bets in fear or otherwise. At least, this is what statistics tells us (as some may disagree)

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My secret is to read as many sources about forward event as I can. I prefer betting on sport, because I don`t beleive in a bling luck. My balanced opinion is formed of professional forecasts which have real betting competency.
Try to read books with financial management strategies. It is a good start for increasing your capital without bets "all in".
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October 03, 2019, 04:41:16 PM
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Gambling is indeed 50-50. It's unpredictable. You cannot really know if you'll win or lose.

And you both are right. With your statements, we can say that calmness and rational thinking plays a factor in gambling. Though it does not guarantee a 100% win, at least it can help you control your greed and your emotions which allows you to minimize your loss.

Agree. It's important to know that gambling is not for everyone. People who've never played gambling games before, can be at risk of losing it all within an instant. It requires a certain level of time and dedication in order to get ahold of the gambling industry. While most games are based out of pure luck, there are some games which are based only on your skill. Of course, that's a guarantee that you'll always win. But, the risks are far lesser than those within games based out of luck.

As long as you never put all of your life savings into gambling, you'll be safe from becoming bankrupt anytime soon. There really is no secret to this, other than being diligent at all times when playing. Looking for ways to protect your money when gambling, is the wisest decision you could ever make. In case your emotions drive you towards playing more than what you're used to, you can always seek professional help to control the addiction.

Despite everything, the gambling industry is bound to improve for the better thanks to the inception of Blockchain technology. As games become more fair and transparent over time, chances of winning could be slightly increased. But the definitive way to win more money over time, would be to invest into the casino's bankroll itself. With a wide array of options to choose from, there's always a pick for the investor in you. Just my thoughts Grin

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October 03, 2019, 11:36:01 PM
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There are always going to be some days that you win and some days that you are just going to lose. I like to play a little Blackjack every now and then. But the issue with that and other table games and slots is the house always has a better chance. I try to stick to sports betting for the most part as the casinos make their profit  off of bets placed. I also like to stick to playoffs when it comes to sports as it seems like that is when games are least likely rigged. During the regular season someone in the team could place their money on them to lose (being the favorite) and make more off of one game of losing then they would the entire contract. Then play their best in playoffs.

I feel like anything can be rigged but sports is always going to be a 50/50 chance. You will always just win or lose, and for the most part if you bet favorites you (SHOULD) win more then you lose. Though it will pay less to bet the favorite unless you are to bet the spread.

I don't have days when I lose money or win it, and I don't have days when I leave my money for the casino. The secret to all this is I play poker with my friends. As money we use chips from a special set. So we don't have any hard feelings we give out chips for free. That's my secret to not losing money in gambling.

Of course, I sometimes bet on UFC, on matches of my favorite fighters or football matches from major Championships, but I usually bet small amounts of money and in most cases win.
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October 04, 2019, 04:30:17 AM
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My secret is to read as many sources about forward event as I can. I prefer betting on sport, because I don`t beleive in a bling luck. My balanced opinion is formed of professional forecasts which have real betting competency.
Try to read books with financial management strategies. It is a good start for increasing your capital without bets "all in".

That is not a secret globally, but it such a secret in personal or individual to try to win the games. You choose sports betting, and you say that your secret is read as many sources. That will help you to win the game, but that is not a secret in gambling. We don't know what the secret that has been searched by many gamblers because there is no secret in the gambling is.



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October 04, 2019, 05:30:10 AM
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My secret is to read as many sources about forward event as I can. I prefer betting on sport, because I don`t beleive in a bling luck. My balanced opinion is formed of professional forecasts which have real betting competency.
Try to read books with financial management strategies. It is a good start for increasing your capital without bets "all in".

That is not a secret globally, but it such a secret in personal or individual to try to win the games. You choose sports betting, and you say that your secret is read as many sources. That will help you to win the game, but that is not a secret in gambling. We don't know what the secret that has been searched by many gamblers because there is no secret in the gambling is.
if gambling with a sports theme can realistically do research on the latest news, it increases our chances of winning when betting. although not 100% successful at least it really will increase opportunities.

 
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