La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[bitLeap]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Regardless of the successive defeats experienced by Real Madrid, this will always be a lesson for all Madrid players. In the next season all players will be busy with the competition that will start soon and will be more challenging for both Madrid and other clubs. Returning to the actual match would definitely be more difficult to predict. Madrid did lose, but in the match later this defeat is not a benchmark that Madrid is easy to beat. Even though in that match Madrid controlled the game, it's just that in terms of finishing it still couldn't look sharp.

[piebeyb]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

I think it's difficult for new players to adapt quickly on the field, let alone use a different strategy before, that's why I feel Madrid need to get a lot of substitutes for Benzema on the front lines, because they can maximize their attack power, because at the moment there is no one who can replace him. Benzema is currently on the front lines, often seeing Madrid lose in this pre-season.

Mbappe is at least Madrid's main target to be able to replace Benzema on the front lines. For this reason, this is an opportunity for Madrid to make the decision to immediately bring Mbappe to Madrid to play in this season, which will soon start, given that several new players are quite expensive to be bought by Madrid but not yet. contributed a lot in pre-season matches.

[doomloop]

Real Madrid are only in need of a centre-forward now and after that they should be good to go. However there is no certain target that they are going after now. As Mbappe is likely to join them by next summer they will need to improve their attempts for another player. They had some targets before in fact.

However one by one all of their targets are getting close to be signed by other teams lately. For example Vlahovic was one of their targets and he is quite likely to sign for Chelsea in case there is an agreement on the fee. Kane is also about to sign for Bayern Munich soon.

Recent results clearly indicating Real Madrid needs to change their mind on Mbappé because if they fail to fill this surely things could be can go into wrong way for them in this season because they already lost their all desired players which are mentioned already and Mbappé is surely coming but as they want him as free agent this can give them trouble with central striker spot needs to be settled in last two games they have only one goal.
 
Vlahović could be also good alternative, but Juventus is now trying their best to swap him with Lukaku which is surely problem for the Real Madrid, and they have to do things in next few days if they want to have better results in both big competitions which are no few days away from start.

[RockBell]

Real Madrid loss against Juventus on pre season match 3-1 last few hours, its become second time in a row for Real Madrid losing in pre season match after last games defeated by Barcelona. Its not really good for Real Madrid although as pre season match because without two weeks later they will play in La Liga. Against Juventus, Real Madrid dominance in ball possession and shot on target but its can't helped Madrid for winning the match.

Last match against Juventus become last pre season match for Real Madrid, next match against Athletic Bilbao in La Liga and Carlo Ancelotti must back to the top performance in domestic league. Although have weakness on striker position after not clear transfer Mbappe, Real Madrid have perform as well as in La Liga and Champion League next season.

Juventus game against real Madrid am not surprised by the way and of the sincere sincere truth Juventus is good and with this, I think they are ready for business, we want a good start from Marid not the disappointment they gave their fans, allowing Machester city to win in the champions league, and to my surprise Barcelona winning against them too, as you said since its only pre-season, I hope they don't keep repeating the same thing when he league starts, sometimes is not about having ball possession or shots on target the main thing that is considered is the goal with all these signs am seen hope all these clubs will not fuck up when he season starts, Mbappes transfer is clear already the dude is going no were since they have increased his money I don't think Madrid is still interested in him currently.

[len01]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Regardless of the successive defeats experienced by Real Madrid, this will always be a lesson for all Madrid players. In the next season all players will be busy with the competition that will start soon and will be more challenging for both Madrid and other clubs. Returning to the actual match would definitely be more difficult to predict. Madrid did lose, but in the match later this defeat is not a benchmark that Madrid is easy to beat. Even though in that match Madrid controlled the game, it's just that in terms of finishing it still couldn't look sharp.

I have often said here that dont draw conclusions from friendly matches because what will determine whether a team looks strong or not is only in actual matches or even matches in the UCL. it do not mean that Madrid lost against Juventus, this is a sign that Madrid performance is bad, but its just that Real Madrid players dont take it seriously so they appear normal.
if not we can see the matches of other teams because sometimes top teams can lose this pre-season game so dont be surprised if Real Madrid lost against Juventus yesterday and I think its not decisive whether Madrid will lose this season but its just that Ancelotti is looking for a formation the best or surprise the real match by showing his strong performance.

[jostorres]

Well we knew that Real Madrid had problems up front, it is no coincidence that they are looking for a replacement for Benzema who has fitness problems due to his age
I don't know if he's succeeding but the market is certainly not favourable, let's see what happens

It seems that Real Madrid prefers the option of waiting until Mbappe contract expires with PSG then they can recruit him for free next season. As you can see, Real Madrid prefers to remain silent rather than make an official offer to sign Mbappe. Real Madrid cool attitude has led to various kinds of speculation to the public, even though they really need a quality striker to replace Benzema role.

Real Madrid weakness is in the striker position, so far they have just brought in Joselu who is 33 years old, based on his age, he is not the main one in Ancelotti squad. Based on the needs of clubs on every front, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their attack power.

It has never been easy to stay silent in this situation because right now things are going getting more troubled as PSG already having him on sell list with few clubs are already in talk and if this negotiation goes positive than Real Madrid can lose Mbappé for the another four or five years even he personally rejected Saudi League offer which was one of the biggest in soccer history, but few English clubs are still working on this and Real Madrid is also trying to arrange funds for this as well because they are understanding this all can ruin their another season and things can go from bad to worse for them as well.

PSG already arranging their striker which is under their radar and now all depend on Mbappé and clubs how they will handle this all exit of Benzema already give them shock, and they are surely needed to work on for fixing this problem before start of this season.

[Jody.Drummer]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Regardless of the successive defeats experienced by Real Madrid, this will always be a lesson for all Madrid players. In the next season all players will be busy with the competition that will start soon and will be more challenging for both Madrid and other clubs. Returning to the actual match would definitely be more difficult to predict. Madrid did lose, but in the match later this defeat is not a benchmark that Madrid is easy to beat. Even though in that match Madrid controlled the game, it's just that in terms of finishing it still couldn't look sharp.

I have often said here that dont draw conclusions from friendly matches because what will determine whether a team looks strong or not is only in actual matches or even matches in the UCL. it do not mean that Madrid lost against Juventus, this is a sign that Madrid performance is bad, but its just that Real Madrid players dont take it seriously so they appear normal.
if not we can see the matches of other teams because sometimes top teams can lose this pre-season game so dont be surprised if Real Madrid lost against Juventus yesterday and I think its not decisive whether Madrid will lose this season but its just that Ancelotti is looking for a formation the best or surprise the real match by showing his strong performance.

Now in this case I really understand why many people are concerned about the club's defeat in the pre-season match, because maybe it could not match the expectations they have.
In this case I agree with you that we cannot conclude that they will do the same thing as the results they get in friendly matches. Because we know that it was a trial match that was intended from the start to test the extent of the strength they have, and keep in mind also that they did not appear with the best squad and strategy. Schemes like this we see very often, and don't be surprised if we see something different from them in real competition.
They're just measuring the strength of the whole scheme which will be a surprise later on.

[Razmirraz]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Real Madrid need to evaluate their two defeats in trial matches this season, conceding six goals in the last two games Ancelotti needs to pay attention to to build the solidity of Real Madrid back line. The attack line also did not work optimally, the poor finishing forced Ancelotti to ask Real Madrid's management to immediately bring in a quality striker.

Vinicius cannot be relied on alone up front without the support of a quality partner, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their number of goals. A fragile defensive line needs to be repaired immediately before the new season starts, Real Madrid also needs to find a quality striker to fill the place left by Benzema.

[temple]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Real Madrid need to evaluate their two defeats in trial matches this season, conceding six goals in the last two games Ancelotti needs to pay attention to to build the solidity of Real Madrid back line. The attack line also did not work optimally, the poor finishing forced Ancelotti to ask Real Madrid's management to immediately bring in a quality striker.

Vinicius cannot be relied on alone up front without the support of a quality partner, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their number of goals. A fragile defensive line needs to be repaired immediately before the new season starts, Real Madrid also needs to find a quality striker to fill the place left by Benzema.

It is normal to think that they need to improve a couple of things when they concede six goals in two games, but I think that Ancelotti doesn't really care that much about the goals conceded in these friendly matches. He is trying to collect as many impressions as possible and then conclude what needs to be done.

In this game against Juventus it wasn't an issue that there was not enough pressure offensively. This was all about efficiency. Check the statistics and you will see that Real Madrid was overwhelmingly better. But they didn't score.

That there is still an urgent need for a striker is obvious, but that is no surprise at all. But the problems have been discussed here as well and Real Madrid has no choice but to wait and see what Mbappe will do. They can't buy a striker now and then a few days later they could have signed Mbappe.

[indah rezqi]

Juventus game against real Madrid am not surprised by the way and of the sincere sincere truth Juventus is good and with this, I think they are ready for business, we want a good start from Marid not the disappointment they gave their fans, allowing Machester city to win in the champions league, and to my surprise Barcelona winning against them too, as you said since its only pre-season, I hope they don't keep repeating the same thing when he league starts, sometimes is not about having ball possession or shots on target the main thing that is considered is the goal with all these signs am seen hope all these clubs will not fuck up when he season starts, Mbappes transfer is clear already the dude is going no were since they have increased his money I don't think Madrid is still interested in him currently.

Unpleasant results in closing pre-season for Madrid, it seems they have lost focus due to the issue of Mbappe move to Santiago Bernabeu. Ancelotti must improve their back line and midfield, I think Vinicius can be moved to the center if Joselu is not played. The 3-1 defeat to Juventus meant that they had lost touch in defence, Ancelotti must have understood this shortcoming very well.

La Liga will start on 12 August, each team still has the opportunity to improve the depth of their squad after undergoing a pre-season tour.

[zuzie]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

[hahay]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

By looking at the quality and performance of new players in friendly matches like this, of course Ancelotti will be able to know the players readiness to play in real matches when the league starts later. So yes, even though the results may still not be optimal but still, it looks like Bellingham will also get his place in the Real Madrid main squad later. Unless Bellingham suffers an injury like Guler, then surely it will be a very unfortunate incident and will probably be regretted too.

[asriloni]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

The problem was not only in jude bellingham. I remind you that if madrid really needs a right back for sure. Seeing how juventus was always pushing from the right side made me aware if real madrid doesn't have good right back at this moment.
Ancelotti needs to sign a new player or real madrid gonna have a very bad season. Madrid is very close to starting the new season. Ancelotti shall use the result from previous matches as evaluations.

Playing without benzema gave very big impact on the club. That proves that if benzema has the biggest contribution to the real madrid last season. Joselu's level is far below benzema at this moment.

Madrid shall have added new striker on its line up. The club can't only have joselu as pure centre forward. Joselu's performance in pre season was so bad.

[rozak]

Playing without benzema gave very big impact on the club. That proves that if benzema has the biggest contribution to the real madrid last season. Joselu's level is far below benzema at this moment.

Madrid shall have added new striker on its line up. The club can't only have joselu as pure centre forward. Joselu's performance in pre season was so bad.

Madrid's current advantage is in their strong midfield. but as you said their weakness is on the right wing of defence. maybe Ancelotti will make some rotations in defense to find some balance in the Madrid team.
Meanwhile, on the front lines, the loss of Benzema in the team was felt. even that was seen last season when Benzema was unable to play. Rodrygo, Vicius, and Joselu seem to have not satisfied Ancelotti. Madrid will have to find the right formation to push Joselu or Rodrygo further forward if they don't find cutting-edge attacking options this summer.
but I'd rather see the combination of Rodrygo and Vinicius upfront than Joselu there.

[Doell]

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I think Kylian Mbappe has secretly signed with Real Madrid. There is good reason to think so.
The likes of Liverpool and Chelsea are trying to sign Kylian Mbappe. And they are trying to make a deal with PSG. I even heard rumors yesterday that Barcelona are interested in signing Kylian Mbappe.
On the other hand, we have heard very few rumors this season that Real Madrid are interested in Kylian Mbappe. Over the past few seasons we have heard strong rumors that Kylian Mbappe is interested in the Madrid management team. However, despite PSG wanting to sell Kylian Mbappe this season, Real Madrid management has not officially discussed with PSG regarding Kylian Mbappe. At the same time, Real Madrid management is still not looking for a suitable replacement for Benzema. They brought in Joselu on loan this season, and are likely to be sure to have Kylian Mbappe in the squad next season.

Maybe the reason that makes sense is that, Mbappe did not renew his contract with PSG, so many of us think Mbappe and Real Madrid have made an agreement behind PSG. Also the rumours are like that, even PSG thinks the same way and accuses Real Madrid. Now there are other rumours, Mbappe willing to join Chelsea but there are special requirement. Reportedly, the requirement that I heard about Mbappe he must be allowed join to Real Madrid next season. If these rumors are true, then these requirement will strengthen this rumours there is an agreement between a Real Madrid and Mbappe behind PSG.

[rahmad2nd]

It seems that Real Madrid prefers the option of waiting until Mbappe contract expires with PSG then they can recruit him for free next season. As you can see, Real Madrid prefers to remain silent rather than make an official offer to sign Mbappe. Real Madrid cool attitude has led to various kinds of speculation to the public, even though they really need a quality striker to replace Benzema role.

Real Madrid weakness is in the striker position, so far they have just brought in Joselu who is 33 years old, based on his age, he is not the main one in Ancelotti squad. Based on the needs of clubs on every front, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their attack power.

If they intend to sign Mbappe as a free agent then it will come with a cost. PSG said Mbappe must sign a new contract or leave the club. If he insists he wants to stay till next season, the club said they are ready to keep him on the bench for the entire season. He might even be banned from training with the main team which might affect his performance. The price is that the French striker will be willing to stay on the bench and PSG will also be willing to waste money on his wages. The decision to attract Mbappe to Real Madrid next season might not be coach Ancelotti's decision because he will be leaving the club for a new role with the Brazil national team after the end of this season. 

It shouldn't be a problem for a player of Mbappe's class in the end he won't be played by PSG until the end of the season, the most important thing is he has to maintain his fitness and stamina. Mbappe, is a player who can play in any league. we can see, very few players have great quality and Mbappe is one of them. after all, I'm pretty sure Mbappe's side think as you say. they know the risk of being refused a contract signing, the high probability that he will not have game time. not only that, PSG fans will automatically boo him. disharmony within the PSG camp has occurred, Mbappe will not be liked by some of the players plus the club itself.

Ideally, PSG would offer Mbappe to Madrid. with the scenario, the price is relatively cheaper than previously requested. which in the end, there will be a mediation between PSG, Mbappe and Madrid. the rest, it's just rumours or Mbappe will reject it. So, let's wait and see whether Mbappe will leave as a free agent, or sign a contract and have an agreement to leave for Madrid next season. or, Madrid will sign him in the near future. what is certain, in football is unique, even though it is spiced with predictions and speculation, but every result can be unexpected.

From Real Madrid's last game against Barcelona, it was glaring that without a natural striker in the team, the club might find it difficult to maximize goal-scoring chances. They missed so many opportunities in the game because they lacked a natural number nine. The game against Juventus also proved the need to get a striker where they had thirty-four shots, eight on target, and scored just one goal after having total domination of the game. If Mbappe is too expensive, the club should seek cheaper options.

By the way, Madrid has played 4 matches, 3 pre-season friendlies, 1 Florida Cup match. based on the data and statistics that I refer to, Ancelotti does not even use the formation pattern that he usually applies.  on the contrary, Ancelotti still uses the 4-3-1-2 system. To be honest, I'm not sure what the coach is planning. however apparently, he is experimenting with the system he wants to implement and some patterns to see how his squad plays. we'll see, when they play match after match when the competition has been rolled out. also, this summer transfer window still has a time lag. So, anything can still happen.

[marcous]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

I think their problems are in defence, conceding 3-1 is proof of that. But it could be that the Madrid defenders are not playing to their full potential, because this is only a friendly match. Moreover the new season will start soon, avoiding the risk of injury is better and a priority. On the other hand, Ancelotti is reportedly a little worried about the results of Madrid successive defeats, after losing to Barca they lost again to Juventus.

If Ancelotti considers the results of pre-season matches important, then looking for a tough defender to wade through next season is a must, in the last four matches Madrid conceded eight goals. It would be useless to recruit Mbappe if their defense is weak.

[dezoel]

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

Even bellingham can do nothing against juventus. This guy still lacks of experience. He needs more experience in the football. Im very surprising to see that madrid was making more than 35 shoots but only 8 shoots were on target which is very bad.
Madrid's strategy was not going so well. Bellingham shall not become main chooose for madrid for the upcoming season.

Even I agreed about this all with you but still you have to understand they are in their early days and just adjusting, hopefully things could be much better and positive in coming days because they are going to be had good time ahead in the coming season Jude Bellingham is surely big player, and he can do much better than he performs in last game against Juventus.

Joselu it surely needs to be much better but most chances we will have Mbappé in squad before end of this transfer window which could be huge boost for the Real Madrid in coming season and things could be well-balanced for the both top teams in La Liga because right now we are also having some issues in Barcelona and few players can leave club in coming days which could be problem for them as well.

[klidex]

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I think Kylian Mbappe has secretly signed with Real Madrid. There is good reason to think so.
The likes of Liverpool and Chelsea are trying to sign Kylian Mbappe. And they are trying to make a deal with PSG. I even heard rumors yesterday that Barcelona are interested in signing Kylian Mbappe.
On the other hand, we have heard very few rumors this season that Real Madrid are interested in Kylian Mbappe. Over the past few seasons we have heard strong rumors that Kylian Mbappe is interested in the Madrid management team. However, despite PSG wanting to sell Kylian Mbappe this season, Real Madrid management has not officially discussed with PSG regarding Kylian Mbappe. At the same time, Real Madrid management is still not looking for a suitable replacement for Benzema. They brought in Joselu on loan this season, and are likely to be sure to have Kylian Mbappe in the squad next season.

Maybe the reason that makes sense is that, Mbappe did not renew his contract with PSG, so many of us think Mbappe and Real Madrid have made an agreement behind PSG. Also the rumours are like that, even PSG thinks the same way and accuses Real Madrid. Now there are other rumours, Mbappe willing to join Chelsea but there are special requirement. Reportedly, the requirement that I heard about Mbappe he must be allowed join to Real Madrid next season. If these rumors are true, then these requirement will strengthen this rumours there is an agreement between a Real Madrid and Mbappe behind PSG.

This rumor is clearly wrong because there is no mutual accusation between Kylian Mbappe and Paris SG and there is no connection with Real Madrid or Chelsea.
What I know is that Mbappe only has a problem with Paris SG and we don't know the real problem that caused Mbappe not to become a starter and was only used as a substitute player and this doesn't mean Paris SG doesn't need him anymore because in the actual match Paris SG will use Mbappe to be their starter.
With regards to Real madrid's contract with Kylian Mbappe I don't think either side will break the rules by plotting the contract secretly it's clear this would result in a breach going unnoticed by Paris SG.
What is certain is that all of this is just uncertain news and what is more certain, let's see later when the competition has started.

[shogun47]

Real Madrid loss against Juventus on pre season match 3-1 last few hours, its become second time in a row for Real Madrid losing in pre season match after last games defeated by Barcelona. Its not really good for Real Madrid although as pre season match because without two weeks later they will play in La Liga. Against Juventus, Real Madrid dominance in ball possession and shot on target but its can't helped Madrid for winning the match.

Last match against Juventus become last pre season match for Real Madrid, next match against Athletic Bilbao in La Liga and Carlo Ancelotti must back to the top performance in domestic league. Although have weakness on striker position after not clear transfer Mbappe, Real Madrid have perform as well as in La Liga and Champion League next season.

Juventus game against real Madrid am not surprised by the way and of the sincere sincere truth Juventus is good and with this, I think they are ready for business, we want a good start from Marid not the disappointment they gave their fans, allowing Machester city to win in the champions league, and to my surprise Barcelona winning against them too, as you said since its only pre-season, I hope they don't keep repeating the same thing when he league starts, sometimes is not about having ball possession or shots on target the main thing that is considered is the goal with all these signs am seen hope all these clubs will not fuck up when he season starts, Mbappes transfer is clear already the dude is going no were since they have increased his money I don't think Madrid is still interested in him currently.

Many say this is just a pre-season match but Real madrid fielded the entire main squad but they still have bad results, meaning this team really needs improvement if they want to be better next season, apart from Mbappe's endless drama but I think Real madrid really need to fix his front line, in several pre-season matches Real Madrid's front line played very badly.
The defeat they experienced was really bad, I am very disappointed and hope that before the league starts Real Madrid will improve to be even better.

Yes but even if it is the main squad it can still be an entirely different game when the priority is not to win the game but to learn about the players and the team to see where they are at during their preparation. We are discussing all these results of the top teams when they lose a game and obviously didn't play with their maximum performance level. A player isn't playing the same way in a pre-season game as he is in any other game during the real season. I doubt that anyone thinks the game against Juventus means anything for the season.